Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alofoque

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Speedy delete a7 as no notability assertion was evident in the text.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 03:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alofoque

Musical group which appears to fail WP:BAND. Returns only 123 unique google hits, has no listing at allmusic and amazon.com has never heard of them. This is a repost of an article I tagged for speedy deletion as a copyvio but which is not a copyvio in its reposted form. At the time of reposting all the text was in Spanish and while a possible db-band, because article was in Spanish, claims of notability or lack thereof might have been hidden to non-bilingual reviewing admin, so I elected to prod instead (removed). Given that I started the process as non-speedy, taking it here. Appears to be speedy-able material now that author has translated.--Fuhghettaboutit 18:32, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, website is in Spanish, but asserts that they meet notability with touring both in and out of the US. [1] --badlydrawnjeff talk 11:27, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Their website may assert notability, but they don't even have a list of albums, if they even have any, and from WP:BAND, an international tour needs publication in a reliable source to back it up. Their website is not a reliable source. Mangojuice^talk 20:19, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment, it's not even a national tour. They "toured" from Boston down to New York City. Mangojuice^talk 20:21, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

• Did you translate the page. They've certainly toured outside of the United States. --badlydrawnjeff talk 20:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

• Well, fetch me some foriegn papers from where they've been and we'll pile on more sourcing. This isn't the sort of thing that's just made up, and if WP:BAND says that, it's a major, major flaw. --badlydrawnjeff talk 20:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I take issue with this. It's the responsibility of those who want information on Wikipedia to back it up, not the responsibility of those removing it to prove that it can't be backed up. I didn't translate the page but I could read the location names in it, and none of them were out of the US, virtually all in New England. The source in question seems to be a solicitation to book the band, from their booking agent. I also found this page, [2] which confirms that their "tour" was mostly in New England plus NY, with one stop in Ohio and one in Florida, not exactly far out of the way. Both alofoque.com and alofoquerecords.net don't work. Mangojuice^talk 22:41, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

So the Domincan Republic is in New England? --badlydrawnjeff talk 04:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

• No claim of notability. Delete, candidate for speedy deletion. - Mike Rosoft 06:51, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: I babelfished the relevant text:

Now, the group has appeared in many discotecas like Club Axis, in Boston; Mirage club in Boston, Lido Club, in Boston, Copacabana Night Club in Boston, Tabu Club, in Saugus, Mass; Club DownUnder in Flowery Tallahassee, the Makina Night Club, in I will review; Cocoloco Night Club, in Nashville Tennessee, Xaviers Night Club in Chicago, You carry far Electric Lounge Night club in New York, and Macumba Club, in anto Domingo. br Also has I throw festivales popular like the Latin Festival in Promenade Park in Downtown Toledo Ohio, the Festival of the United Hispanic Community in Bristol Pennsylvania, and the Employer's associations of Slaughter, the Dominican Republic. When "Alofoque" travels to different states and paises they appear in several radio stations like the 890 Mega A.M., Jam 94,5 FM, Hot 97,7 FM in Boston, the Kalle 92,7 FM, Wiit 88,9 FM Chicago, and the Unmistakable WRIB A.M. 1220, in Providence RI. Also, including the programs of television like, Contact TV, "Guatemala Video", and "Video World", in Providence, Rhode Island; Telemundo of Boston, Fernanditós Hideaway Show, "Here and there", and TV-MA

• --badlydrawnjeff talk 11:51, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

This article is blatant promotion and should be nuked. I just removed all the neutrality-violating language ("very talented artists", et cetera), there is no claim of notability left. Mangojuice^talk 00:04, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete: The article claims notability, so it's just barely above a speedy, but I still don't see the necessary reliable sources for an article. --Hetar 00:06, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.