Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Acklam Grange Secondary School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP (no consensus). TigerShark 22:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Acklam Grange Secondary School

Non-notable school Artw 21:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

• Keep for reasons articulated at Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. Silensor 22:02, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Silensor. Irongargoyle 22:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep We have been here too often; while there is a 50:50 split as to whether primary schools are notable there is a concensus that secondary (high) schools are. BlueValour 22:53, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per myself. ⇒ JarlaxleArtemis 23:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete for reasons articulated at Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Delete. --DaveG12345 00:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Tychocat 02:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete articles need to establish notability, because encyclopedias only cover notable topics. There is no policy or guideline as to what constitutes notability for schools - WP:SCHOOLS was rejected. This article contains a claim to notability. Is a "Specialist College" adequately notable? Specialist school tells us that "Currently there are over 2,000 specialist schools, over two thirds of the schools in England." That lets me know the answer - that is not an adequate claim to notability. I find no independent reliable sources among the 23 unique google hits that this search finds that establish anything more than that the school exists. And there were only 23 unique google hits, which for a secondary school is very minimal... so this is clearly not a topic worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. GRBerry 02:20, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Delete but amenable to change if some notability is asserted, but not until. Articles about things which are inherently non-notable shouldn't be written without an assertion of notability from the get go. A hope by the creator than one will be added later by someone else is no substitute. Having said this, schools are usually kept one way or another. SM247^{My Talk} 03:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete pending some assertion of notability. Vegaswikian 07:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - I am trying to build up the utility of this article but I see that you have started to remove some of the information that I have added. BlueValour 07:24, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - we keep senior/secondary/high school articles. Could do with a bit of wikification (& maybe enough info to fill an infobox too). Inner Earth
• Keep Everyone knows that high school articles are kept so why nominate them? Golfcam 18:24, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. The article seems fine to me. I would respectfully ask the nom to flesh out his thinking. Three words are inadequate to justify removing a potentially valuable addition to our coverage of institutions of higher learning. --JJay 23:32, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. Just to amplify my position. High (secondary) schools are pivotal places in the community, not only for the parents who send their kids there but for parents of primary children aiming at those schools, people who use the buildings out of hours etc. If someone looked up a high school in an online encyclopaedia would they expect to find it there? I think the answer is yes. Primary (elementary) schools are a different case. They are simply not nearly as important in the community. Also, I doubt if anyone would expect to find them here. For a primary school to be included it should be notable in its own right. BlueValour 23:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or Wikipedia will never be completed. Ramseystreet 00:25, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep no reason to delete. Having schools on here isn't a bad thing since it will keep readers informed. An56 04:46, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.