Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A winner is You

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. →FireFox 17:19, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A winner is You

Dicdef. Not enough behind it to become a full article. Klaw ¡digame! 03:37, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

• I disagree. I think it should be kept. frogfusious
• Not dicdef. It's a meme. The question is whether it should be given an article, like All your base are belong to us, or deleted, like Longcat. I say delete. - CorbinSimpson 04:21, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
• See A winner is you (AfD discussion). (For non-administrators: The article subject is the same, although the content is not.) Uncle G 04:29, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, article provides no evidence that the use of the term is on par with other internet memes like All your base are belong to us.--nixie 04:30, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as before, speedily if it's the same text. Gazpacho 05:46, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete- unencyclopedic, just like the previous incarnation of this tripe. Reyk 07:06, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
• Merge whatever is relevant into the game article. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:02, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, again. Wikipedia's inability to judge notability of internet memes causes a continued AfD of otherwise worthwhile articles. 13k+ google hits, basis for many image macros. --badlydrawnjeff 14:40, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

• Comment. What do you suggest for a notability guideline for memes? "All Your Base" received broad coverage in the MSM, including an article in the LA Times. Very few memes will reach that level, so where would you draw the line? | Klaw ¡digame! 15:05, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

• I hate to take the "I know it when I see it" route, but when I see otherwise notable memes like Prime Number Shitting Bear get deleted, it makes me wonder what happens. The delete votes come mostly from "Well, *I* haven't heard of it" or comparing it to the most popular memes like All Your Base. Much like you wouldn't judge the notability of, say, The Apples in Stereo via a comparison with The Beach Boys, it's tough to compare internet memes with their better-known counterparts. So, in a situation such as this, the 13k Google hits alone should raise a few eyebrows as to why we're deleting it. In a situation like the Prime Number Shitting Bear, the Google test doesn't work as well as it's an older meme. Some sort of guidelines should possibly be put into place, but I'm not sure if there's an easy way to quantify them, either. It doesn't excuse misguided delete votes on notable memes, however. --badlydrawnjeff 15:15, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

• I wasn't advocating using "All Your Base" as the standard. I'd just like to know where others might draw the line. I hadn't heard of this meme, I haven't seen any MSM coverage of it, and for a leet phrase it doesn't seem to be all that widespread. Nor do I think that Wikipedia needs to include many memes; leave that stuff to urbandictionary. | Klaw ¡digame! 15:25, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. This is actually one of my favourite Internet memes, but as long as we have the text 'A winner is you' in the game's article, so someone searching for the phrase's origin will find it, it doesn't need its own article. --Last Malthusian 15:33, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete - pretty much its only source is a YTMND webpage. If Wikipedia ever comes to lots of articles on YTMND pages, I will kill myself. --Cyde Weys _talk^contribs 20:59, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete and as previously. Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] AfD? 23:16, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Yawn. More cruft. karmafist 23:55, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
• Weak keep, I like it. "I like it" is unfortunately not a keep criterion, guess it'll have to go. Delete. Stifle 02:01, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Pro Wrestling (video game). -Sean Curtin 04:52, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect; make sure whatever page lists internet memes has a link to the game. -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 12:42, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.