Talk:Art Deco

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[edit] Commerical links

In general, Wikipedia doesn't support commercial links. An anon has just added

Is this sufficiently informative, that we are willing to overlook the commercial connection? -- Solipsist 20:29, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The site is good for images, that's something to be said for it... but then again one could always google for images of art deco jewellery. --Urbane legend

I thought the actual term "art deco" was coined by Bevis Hillier in The World of Art Deco (1971). Not true? --Michael K. Smith 20:22, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

It was being used in the trade in NY in the 60s, with the understanding that it came from the 1925 Paris exhibitio's name.--Wetman 05:07, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] change page title?

"Art Deco did not originate with the Exposition; it was a major style in Europe from the early 1920s, though it did not catch on in the U.S. until about 1928," should be than "Art Deco in US" a more correct title for this page?

No it should not. There needs to be a page about Art Deco as a whole. Write Art Deco in the United States if you would like an article specific to the US, or include more information about the European origns on this page. Cacophony 00:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not informative / Americacentric?

Hi all...just wanted to say that I'm still none the wiser for how to recognise art deco after reading this page, so if anyone ever wanted to make it better, consider people who don't already know what it is :) The example photos aren't that helpful. Stevage 23:49, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree with the comment on the pictures... They are almost all of buildings. That's great to include them, but more posters, ads, and other art forms would be greatly helpful. Russia Moore 21:22, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
The problem is simply of copyright. We need to take these photos ourselves. --Wetman 20:46, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

"This is still the image of Art Deco held in the minds of most Americans." Is this true? Is this relevant? Jimiq 00:36, 27 April 2006 (BST)

gone. Cacophony 01:14, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reversions

There has been a tendency to slowly revert back to old versions of this page. We need to move forward and spend our energy improving the article by adding new information and media, not trying to keep looking the way it is. The article is far from perfect right now. Cacophony 07:26, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

i still dont understand what art deco is after reading all of this, it hasnt been of any help!

[edit] Complete Overhaul

This page is scrambled, misleading and confusing.

I think all the architecture photos confuse Art Deco as a general design era and most likely violate copyrights. Any commercial hyperlinks must go. The lengthly lists are obnoxious and difficult to digest.

The initial paragraph is great though. All the hyperlinks in the first paragraph need subsections reitterated within the article, such as industrial design. Lucky 23 00:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC) I am dedicated to modifying and building this page, and I can take critism Lucky 23 02:02, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Many new updates. Need user feedback to influence my direction, especially comments on images.Lucky 23 02:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photo Discussion

How many photographs of buildings are nessisary to demonstrate Art Deco in architecture?Lucky 23 04:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

One earliest example, one most famous example, one best example, one most characteristic example. The rest is self-indulgence. --Wetman 05:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Can't say I mind self indulgence when it comes to illustrating an article, however, I've noticed people tend to add pictures of buildings in their favourite town/country regardless of the actual scope of the article, and this one is about Art Deco, not Art Deco in architecture, so I suggest keeping the number in check. Equendil Talk 09:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

We need to either keep the two top photos to the left and right or remove one of the examples. The large gap in the sources and attributes margin looks unfinished, like bad formatting. Lucky 23 13:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


The photo of pottery badly represents scupture of that era. Maybe a picture of something by Paul Manship or Maurice Ascalon?Lucky 23 13:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links

Any that look extra valuable to anyone? - brenneman {L} 06:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Aaron Brenneman, you are invited to judge for yourself whether...
...deserves to be added to the External Links. Paul Niquette 16:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I say "No". That link opens with

"How suddenly Deco appeared! The time was 1925; the place was Paris."

Well,(opinion) Deco didn't appear all that suddenly, rather had been brewing for years.

Then about Carl Paul Jennewein the link adds,

"He returned to Europe and received the Prix de Rome in 1916."

Actually, CPJ returned to Europe BECAUSE he received the prize. This is not (yet another opinion) a link that adds much, if anything. Carptrash 20:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your opinions.
[a] Your observation about "suddenness" can surely be generalized, inasmuch as any event signalling public awareness necessitates a prior interval of coordinated development.
[b] My source for the Jennewein caption did not apply a 'because' clause, which I can easily bring into compliance with your opinion in an edit over the weekend.
The same thing more or less happens with Manship. The article states: and the American Academy in Rome, there winning the Pix de Rome in 1909. In fact (which always means "in my opinion) he did not win it there, it was winning the Prize in the USA that got him to Rome. Carptrash 00:59, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Did you have any opinions about the extent to which the selected illustrations might contribute to the Art Deco entry? Paul Niquette 19:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, given that WP:EL indicates early on that "Links should be kept to a minimum", I would say that your site does not rise to the level called for. I don't think we would have a lot of trouble coming up with another illustrative image.
You might want to read through WP:EL#Advertising_and_conflicts_of_interest. -- Mwanner | Talk 20:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture misplaced

The image "Art Deco designs by Maurice Ascalon" in my browser is on the right nottom and drops too far down. --ArmadilloFromHell 02:40, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

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