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[edit] Roof tiled in imitation of thatch photo

That is one fantastic roof in Croyde, North Devon. I want to build this type of roof on a cottage that I am designing right now. I want to get detailed photos of the underside of the curved part to see how it was constructed...any way you can get that and post it? Any details about the design and construction of the roof would be much appreciated.
ThatchFun

Imitation thatched roof at Croyde, north Devon, England.

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I do have one more pic so here it is. It probably won't help! I was on holiday nearby and I can't go back to ask about the construction (it's 100 miles away from me). You could write to them, the address would be Welcome Cottage, Croyde, north Devon, England

You might be interested to know a bit more about messaging so here goes:

New messages go at the bottom of the page, not at the top where you put it. You could have linked to the article with two square brackets either side of the article's name, as I have done above with the articles name of Roof (notice that the link turns blue, a single click will then take anyone straight to the article where the pic is to be found). Sign your username and the date, if you have a username, with four tildes (the wiggly line thing). On my keyboard the tilde shares a key with the hash sign. Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 08:28, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Fig, you have a problem that some editors have which is the use of semi-specialised phraseology that you understand perfectly but millions won't in other countries or even here in Bristol where I live. They are NOT normal phrases with obvious meanings. Yes, they are understandable by you but that's not the point - John Bull in Ohio might want to understand it as well.

Your comment “If you dont know what an "evolved community" is I suggest you shouldn’t be editing small urban wiki stubs” is so silly. I have been editing WP since January 2003 (you have been editing since January 2006) so I DO have the experience and I will continue to edit any article that the reader may not understand or that shows poor style.

That it’s a “small urban wiki stub” has no relevance whatever, I edit long articles or stubs, on any subject, because unclear writing is recognizable no matter the subject.

It would be great if I did a poll of Wikipedians all around the world to see if they know what “evolved community” and “residentially fragmented” means but its too much effort since your mind seems to be closed and I never get into to-and-fro arguments, there’s too much else to do on WP. So revert by all means and I can take the article off my Watchlist so that I don’t have to see an article that many will find annoying. Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 10:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kennet and Avon Canal map

Thanks for you message which I've passed on to User:SFC9394 who made the maps - it might be useful if you could contact them direct.— Rod ^talk 17:25, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

User:SFC9394 has now updated the map to show SCC & B&W as disused and the Dundas & Avoncliffe aqueducts as separate. You may need to refresh your cache but could you check these satisfy your comments. — Rod ^talk 19:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

The 2 aqueducts are now fine but there could be a small refinement to the Somerset Coal Canal. The final 0.5 km of the SCC, up to the Dundas Aqueduct, still fully exists (as boat moorings) so should be coloured in the K&A blue. This stretch is so short that I would in no way object if it was ignored. The stretch runs from the Dundas Aqueduct back only as far as the "S" of the word "Dundas". It might be helpful to tell you that the stretch is 4 millimetres long on my 19 inch monitor, viewing the biggest version of the map - Adrian Pingstone 20:08, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Changes made - I had to update the map anyway to remove a plural from the key! SFC9394 20:37, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Liriodendron chinense

Hello Adrian,

I've been trying to put an image of Chinese Tulip Tree on its WP page -- even got permission from China to upload an image of a stamp[1], but that's not good enough. Any image that you can provide would be welcome. An article on the Kew Gardens collection, complete with map, is here[2] - Tony 23:10, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I've no other pics of Kew, I went there on holiday and am now 100 miles away - Adrian Pingstone 19:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jaguar XJ 8

Dear Adrian,

I just have a question concerning your Jaguar XJ8. Can you please tell me what the colour denotation is? It looks like Sapphire Metallic Clearcoat 806/JGE or 1806/JHE. Thank you for replying ex ante. Jag Enthusiast Sava

Hi! It would be helpful to have told me which pic you refer to, I've had to spend a while just finding it. Just put the article name in double square brackets, this seems to be the article: Jaguar XJ, car R790 MFE. Sorry, I'm just a photographer who enjoys taking pics of transport, I know nothing of stuff like paint colours - Adrian Pingstone 19:01, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sloping?

As per your comment here, I was wondering what "sloping" meant in terms of that picture. thanks. Towsonu2003 19:32, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for your question. I don't think you can be aware that the sea shore is always level against the land, it can't be any other way (it doesn't depend on how the mountains might slope in the distance). I saw the slope of the seashore the instant I looked at the picture, this is a very common failing with seascapes. To check, I just pulled the pic upwards until the seashore was running along a horizontal part of the screen, then you'll see it. If you don't understand what I mean please ask again. - Adrian Pingstone 20:08, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh I see... thanks :) Towsonu2003 20:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

Your image of the interior of Canary Wharf tube station has been selected as Selected picture in Portal:Tube. Unisouth 06:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Messier.all.750pix.jpg listed for deletion

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[edit] Re: Pic on Kazan Governorate - Thanks!

Thanks a million! It looks great. I'll have to examine what you did. Thanks! Mattisse(talk) 20:05, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip! Mattisse(talk) 21:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Upper Thracian Lowlands

Greetings, aerospacer and fellow geek! You voted against the featuring of the UTL picture on the (totally valid, sorry about that) grounds that it was too small. The author has uploaded a new version, and there's a lively vote going on about which version to use. You might like to take another look. --Kizor 21:27, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use of Romanian language

Will you please stop writing lengthy chunks of your Talk Page here in your native language. This is the English Wikipedia so most of us have not the faintest idea what you are writing. It's discourteous to the majority of your readers - Adrian Pingstone 09:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Mr. Pingstone, why should I listen to you? When I needed you you didn't at least answered me. So? Are you racist against Romanians like all other English people? I will use my language as long as I can. :Regards,Arthur, 28 October 2006

Thank you for your sad reply. It is too offensive for me to bother to reply to. - Adrian Pingstone 19:55, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Dragonfly compound eye

Hi Adrian!
I was wondering if you could specify your prefence (b/w the two versions) on the dragonfly compound eye FPC nom? Thanks, --Fir0002 08:05, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Done, regards - Adrian Pingstone 08:52, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lustleigh

Thank you! I tried a little while ago - you may find some resistance! All the best --Herby ^{talk thyme} 18:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:A380.emirates.736pix.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:A380.emirates.736pix.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

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[edit] Copyright

Hi Adrian,
How's it going? Please have a look at the page Air Algerie. There are lots of copyright violating images taken from airliners.net. Thanks a lot, Jaw101ie 23:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

The vandal seems to be Amine2. Other editors, has well as myself, have removed his copyright violations so all's well at the moment. However, this person has since attempted to put the pics back on but we'll be watching! Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 14:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Banksy

I was in Park Street today and got a decent pic of the Naked Man, as you requested some weeks ago. I've put on two pics, a close up and a longshot to show the surroundings. Thanks for alerting me to the need for this photo - Adrian Pingstone 19:29, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Adrian, that's just what I was looking for. I thought I had found a Banksy stencil near Brick Lane in London the other day, but User:Duncancumming reliably informed me it was actually known as Mr Yu.

As it happens I think you already managed to catch another Banksy on the side of The Thekla, so now that you've got your eye in you might notice some more similar graffiti around Bristol.... -- Solipsist 00:47, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I thought the skeleton rowing was Banksy but I wasn't sure so didn't put it in the article. Now that you say it is him, I've added it to Banksy. I'm not aware of any more of his work in Bristol. Cheers - Adrian Pingstone 10:38, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

At first I thought you had uploaded a crop of the original Thelka image, but looking at the image description page, I suspect that you've been out and taken a fresh shot today. Nice job!

I'd be surprised if there aren't more Bansky's around in Bristol - it would probably be worth talking to User:Duncancumming or others of WikiProject Graffiti. This Web site suggests there is one on Cheltenham Road and there is mention of one on Gloucester Rd here. However, I don't know how current these websites are, and graffiti can be transient. There are several websites and Flickr groups devoted to Banksy, so it can be rewarding to look through those and see if you can recognise any locations. If you happen to catch any, I'm not sure that the article would have room to support them, but there is a category for Banksy on Commons where I'm sure they would be appreciated. Cheers. -- Solipsist 21:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

You've caught me out! I put the Naked Man's date (November 2006) on the Image Description Page of the Skeleton Rower in error (now corrected). The Rower closeup was in fact taken at the same time (April 2005) as I took the general shot of Thekla. I had spotted the graffiti on the side of the boat but was not sure what it was. So I took the telephoto shot to examine at leisure on my computer. I had no idea it was by Banksy. Thanks for the other possible locations - Adrian Pingstone 22:54, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Twin lantana camara edit.jpg

A new section has been oppened in Wikipedia talk:Featured picture candidates to clarify the consensus on the picture Image:Twin lantana camara edit.jpg. Since your vote was given before Edit1 was published, would you please like to participate in the discussion? regards, - Alvesgaspar 11:21, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Local images

Thanks for the improved pic on Kennet and Avon Canal. Can I be cheeky and ask if you have any pics of: Tudor House, Langport, St Margaret's Almshouses (Taunton), Rook Lane Chapel (Frome) or Robin Hoods Hut, (Goathurst) to illustrate some articles I've been doing. Also I found an image for Temple of Harmony under creative commons but could you check I've not infringed any licences - see Image:Templofharmony.jpg. I know you have loads of pics of local scenes & wondered if you had any of these? — Rod ^talk 16:24, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for being kind about my improvements, I get nervous when I change a pic in case the other party doesn't think it is an improvement! Two sorries - first I know nothing about copyright etc because I put on only my own PD pics. Secondly I haven't gone as far from Bristol as the places you mention so no luck there. Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 16:34, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Mig23.750pix.jpg

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Mig23.750pix.jpg

[edit] Hydroelectricity image

Hi, can I please have your permission to use your image Stwlan.dam.750pix.jpg‎ (110KB, MIME type: image/jpeg)for an educational website I'm creating? I work for the University of Reading and am writing a website for science students in the UK in general. Many thanks

Yes, of course. Use it, or alter it, in any way you wish. Best Wishes- Adrian Pingstone 12:52, 10 November 2006 (UTC

[edit] Poole

Hi, I was thinking about creating a gallery of Poole with some images of the main buildings of historic old poole and some other important local landmarks e.g. Barclays building/RNLI. Do you have any other images of Poole that you could contribute? LordHarris 13:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grave marking industry

Thank you for the suggestion Jaak Nijssen 17:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind comment. Galleries are very useful when the number of pictures is too great for the amount of text. Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 17:49, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] External Link Removal (Glacier)

Thanks for the apology and for clarifying your comments on my talk page.

Regarding the link to eoearth.org, You stated "it's useful and not spam because no price is given nor where to buy it". This, however, is not the criteria in the WP:EL standard. WP recently tightened their external link standards and actually elevated several criteria from "quideline" status to "policy". Sounds like semantical hair splitting, but from what I've read, WP is getting flooded with link spammers who are not simply trying to sell products but are trying to promote their own websitesWikipedia:WikiProject Spam. Here's an extract from this new policy statement;

"For policy or technical reasons, editors are restricted from linking to the following, without exception.

A website that you own, maintain or are acting as an agent for; even if the guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked to. This is in line with the conflict of interests guidelines."

Further it states in its guidelines that the following links are to be avoided:

"Links that are added to promote a site..."

It appears that an individual or group of eoearth.org users have been flooding WP with links to promote this website. In most cases, the only contributions to WP by these users are the additon of these links. In the case of KonaScout (who added this link), this user was warned twice prior to cease link spamming eoearth.org by two other editors and the links were removed. If you check his contribution list, the vast majority are simply adding external eoearth.org links. Other eoearth.org users likewise have been warned by other editors and most have stopped.

My removal of this link was in accordance with the WP standard. If you still object to its removal and think that its retention should be treated as an exception, please discuss it in the Glacier article Talk page.

Thanks again for taking the time to write and explain your comments. I have not removed the link yet, but wanted to get your response first. Calltech 22:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your clear explanation, I now understand why the Link is undesirable, please remove it. I again apologise for the Edit Summary that is stuck there. I wish these Summaries could be edited but, understandably, they can't. Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 08:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Adrian and good luck to you. Calltech 12:03, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image placing

Be careful when you move images, like in John Cabot. Your last move created unpleasant blank spaces... Ciao and good work! --Attilios 10:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, ok. Strangely, the current version of the article looks goods also on my PC. I've same resolution than yours. I'm also glad that you put an eye to blank spaces and style: I get very nervous when editors here put things casually here and there... Thanks and good work! --Attilios 11:37, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barton-le-Clay

Hey Arpingstone, I've noted your recent work on Barton-le-Clay and it is much appreciated. However, you gave an offensive edit summary to one of your copyedits. I agree that these were major mistakes, but per WP:COPYEDIT, such edit summaries might be offensive to the original author of the text. Thank you. Michaelas10 (Talk) 10:27, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. I am a mild, gentle, person but sometimes I "flip". I found this edit so careless that I was not inclined to be gentle in my Edit Summary.

The person wrote (I have put the three errors in bold):

………and Barton Players, the local ameture dramatics group, regually hold plays and Summer Workships for children in the village hall.

My Edit Summary said:

Congratulations! Three spelling mistakes in one sentence!

Such a sarcastic Edit Summary is very rare for me but, on this occasion, I neither regret it nor apologise for it. Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 14:52, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Sure, no big deal. Everyone make mistakes sometimes. Please do not consider the messege above as a "warning", just a good faith note. Michaelas10 (Talk) 15:22, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind message of 15.22. As I said, that kind of Edit Summary from me is very very rare. Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 15:48, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, please take more care when editing articles. On this article you have made a couple of basic mistakes. Just a note. Lcarsdata 08:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment. Unfortunately, without examples of my “basic mistakes”, I cannot defend myself. I think it sad that you have criticised a fellow Wikipedian, yet have not said what the criticism is. (You should know that I have done 16,000 edits since January 2003 and this is the first complaint of “mistakes”.) If the mistakes were minor then it would be normal to correct them yourself, there is no need to let the other party (me) know that they have made a mistake.

Although I don’t know what I’m supposed to have done, I find it weird to be "told off" for my editing skills by someone whose own editing skills ended us up with an entry for Barton-le-Clay that was so massively unencyclopedic that I had to do hundreds of changes to bring it into line with the WP norm for village entries. (An aside: the reader of this might like to look at the Barton-le-Clay entry for 12.32 on 22nd October 2006 to see the state it was in when I came across it). Had you looked at a few other village entries on WP you would have seen how far off your entry was from the norm, and I would not have needed to edit it at all - Adrian Pingstone 14:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Gripen.750pix.jpg

Hello, I orphaned Image:Gripen.750pix.jpg per WP:FUC. Sincerely, --Oden 15:16, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, that's fine - Adrian Pingstone 16:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External link removed

Hello, I noticed you removed an external link because the page was in a foreign language (diff). This is not an excluding factor (for instance many governments in non-english speaking countries have websites in a foreign language). Instead you can clear up any unnecessary links (regardless of language) by referring to WP:EL or WP:SPAM, just write "removing linkspam" in the edit summary. Keep up the good work! --Oden 15:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your message. I’ve been editing WP every day since January 2003 so I like to think I know what I’m doing. As you probably agree, the aircraft spotting page in German was not acceptable to WP so I removed it. I always write a helpful Edit Summary so I wrote This is the English Wikipedia, foreign language links are not allowed so German language link removed. I did not say that certain foreign language links are OK but perhaps I should have.

So, in future, I’ll change the wording to say This is the English Wikipedia, foreign language links are not normally allowed so German language link removed.

I never write Removing link spam because that gives the uploader no information about why his/her link was unacceptable. Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 16:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for correcting my misunderstanding, and for your contributions. Keep up the good work! Sincerely, --Oden 07:09, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cabot, Bristol

Arp, you say {Unencyclopedic sentence removed again, how can the reader have any idea what "residentially fragmented" and "evolved community" mean.} on editing Cabot. I dont understand what your problem is with this - they are entirely normal phrases with obvious meanings. The residential areas in Cabot are divided into 6 seperate areas, none of which is identifiably "Cabot". If you dont know what an "evolved community" is I suggest you shouldnt be editing small urban wiki stubs. Contrast with the "Clifton" page. Please justify its removal, come up with alternative text, or I will re-insert it. The information is justifably encyclopedic and needs to be included. Fig 23:37, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Fig, you have a problem that some editors have which is the use of semi-specialised phraseology that you understand perfectly but millions won't in other countries or even here in Bristol where I live. They are not normal phrases with obvious meanings. Yes, they are understandable by you but that's not the point - John Bull in Ohio might want to understand it as well.

Your comment “If you dont know what an "evolved community" is I suggest you shouldn’t be editing small urban wiki stubs” is silly. I have been editing WP since January 2003 (you have been editing since January 2006) so I do have the experience and I will continue to edit any article that the reader may not understand or that shows poor style.

That it’s a “small urban wiki stub” has no relevance whatever, I edit long articles or stubs, on any subject, because unclear writing is recognizable no matter the subject.

Revert by all means and I can take the article off my Watchlist so that I don’t have to see an article that many will find annoying (and I still don't know what evolved community means!!). Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 10:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Come up with some better text then. As I said, the information is relevant and I think the meaning clear. If you dont, then improve the text; but dont just delete it - that's just silly. It's ridiculous to delete sound information from any encyclopaedia just because you think it wont be understood - it is better to have extra information that some people might understand and others not than it is not to have the information at all. Heck, the people who dont understand it might try and find out what it means...and get smarter in the process. Everyone's a winner. If you have better text, put it in, or I will re-insert. Fig 13:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. You seem unable to tell me what "evolved community" means although I directly asked you to tell me. Maybe you don't know either! Incidentally, why should the reader find what the phrases mean, they surely expect WP to be their one source.

I can't do a statistically valid poll but I asked my wife, younger son (Degree in Economics and Marketing from UWE) and older son (Degree in Politics, University of Essex), and none new the meanings.

Finally, it's not sensible to ask me to re-edit those phrases, for very obvious reasons. I am happy for you to revert. There seems no point in carrying this discussion any further so cheers from Adrian Pingstone 15:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Luminarium

Hello. You may be interested in another Luminarium-related discussion here. Regards, El_C 15:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, very interesting - Adrian Pingstone 16:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

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