Talk:Armistice with France (Second Compiègne)

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It was Hitler's crowning moment.

Quite. Hitler must have been the happiest person in the world at that moment; his entire life vindicated. It must have been fantastic to be him on this day. His pores must have exuded triumph, power and sexual energy. None of the other dictators or political leaders in the entire century could have had such a moment of personal triumph. Their enemies were either diffuse, imaginary, or died off-stage. I imagine Eva Braun's orifice was sore for days afterwards. Perhaps this day was one of the great cusps of history, and if Hitler's life story is treated as an epic tragedy this must be akin to the infinitesimally brief moment when King Arthur had everything lined up, just right. -Ashley Pomeroy 12:47, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Timeline

Four articles I've looked at have disagreements in the timeline in June 1940 of the armistice being signed and France surrendering. The article Timeline of World War II#June gives the following:

• June 21: Franco-German armistice negotiations begin at Compiegne.
• June 22: Franco-German armistice signed.
• June 24: France officially surrenders to Germany; Franco-Italian armistice signed.

This disagrees with Armistice with France (Second Compiègne) which currently says the Armistice was signed on June 21. The article Battle of France currently states that France surrendered on June 25, as does the article Military history of France during World War II#Aftermath. I don't know which is correct, so I won't make any changes, but somebody should sort this out and find the correct dates, and then ensure that these four articles are mutually consistent. --Mathew5000 19:09, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

The armistice with Germany was signed on 22 June, 18:50. In it Article 23 stipulated that it would come into force six hours after an armistice was signed with Italy. The armistice with Italy was signed on 24 June, 18:35 (19:35 in Rome). Thus at 0:35 on 25 June the French Army surrendered. So there was no armistice as opposed to a capitulation: they were two aspects of the same act.--MWAK 19:58, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

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"[[Dankmar Leffler and Klaus-Peter Schambach have written a book called "The Secret Journey in the Fourth Reich?- The Legengary Railroad Carriage of Compiegne" (Geheime Fahrt ins Vierte Reich?-Der legendaere Eisenbahnwaggon von Compiegne" Printed by Barthel-Druck Arnstadt 2006). It was subsidized by IBM Germany. But since East Germans speak Russian, and not English, as a second language, I am unaware of an English Translation. email to the authors is waggon-compiegne@web.de"