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[edit] Climate

Just reading the section on climate in Phoenix. As it is getting hotter I find this sentence hard to believe, "The summer months of May through August bring a dry heat ranging from 90–100°F (32–38°C)". The website weather.com has a projected high temperature of 98°F tomorrow and it's only May 1st. Being a native for over 20 years I'd have to say the summer temperature range is usually more something like 95°F-115°F. Maybe 15°F doesn't seem to be that big of a deal but you can definitely feel it.

Agreed, I adjusted it to 120 being more accurate..

[edit] GRAND CANYON

How about adding a creationist viewpoint on how the Grand Canyon was formed? Or just leave how it was formed out all together and leave that up to the Grand Canyon article?

No, this would be inappropriate. The vast majority of people (not just scientists) agree that the Grand Canyon was not formed in a matter of weeks. This viewpoint belongs neither on Arizona or Grand Canyon but on Creationism. Jeeves 00:26, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yes, please do NOT do that.

[edit] Arizona's official language

List of official languages says that English is not the official language of Arizona. What is, then?? 66.245.107.126 19:26, 22 May 2004 (UTC)

Nothing presumably - not all states have an official language -- sannse (talk) 07:08, 24 May 2004 (UTC)
I always heard it was co-official with Spanish...
No, that's New Mexico. Arizona as a whole has no official language, although large chunks do, for example the official language of the Navajo Nation, which includes a very significant portion of Arizona in the north, is Navajo; the official language of the Tohono O'odham Nation, which takes up a very significant portion in the south, is Tohono O'odham, the official language on Hopi, an enclave in the Navajo reservation, is Hopi. Other large tracts of land with official languages include the San Carlos Apache and White Mountain Apache reservations which border one another, whose official language is Western Apache ("Coyotero Apache"), the Havasupai reservation whose official language is Havasupai, and the Walapai Nation whose official language is Walapai. In fact, the Havasupai Reservation is to my knowledge the only Indian reservation in the US where every single person knows the language fluently, this is partially due to the fact that most of the people there live at the bottom of a canyon. --Node 22:53, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Arizona's official language is English (Article 28 of the Arizona Constitution) but most of the provisions of Article 28 is unenforcable. The Arizona Supreme Court deemed the English enforcement sections of Article 28 unconstitutional on First Amendment and Fourteenth Amendment (US Constitution) grounds. KeoniPhoenix 22:20, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Important cities and towns

I think it could use some major trimming. :-)

What might be some qualification for this list?

  • Population over 100,000.
  • Significant agriculture, industrial or tourisms to the world/USA and or Arizona economy.
  • Military, school/educational and or geographical importance.
  • Has access to a international border, airport, interstate highway and or major railway.

OR leave it as is, someone put it there, they most have thought it important.

Do you feel BOLD? Buster 15:38, Jun 16, 2004 (UTC)


--I put the list there. It is essentially every place, urbanized area or urban cluster with a population over 10,000 identified by the Census Bureau. Suburbs over 10,000 population are listed as sub-points.

How about the Ghost-town of Christmas, AZ?

[edit] removed text

I removed Ballet Arizona is the most notable and only professional ballet company in the country. This is eye-poppingly untrue. Joyous 21:55, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)

  • I think it was meant to be in the state. And I don't know why you took out the Irish dance stuff; was it untrue also? Blair P. Houghton 05:20, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
The article on the Irish dance thing just went through VfD, and consensus seemed to be that it was an advertisement. We usually delete links (or at the very least de-link) to deleted articles. Joyous 12:11, Feb 21, 2005 (UTC)

Removed: Spanish words "árida zona" ("arid zone"). This would be grammatically incorrect however, since in Spanish, the noun precedes the adjective In Spanish it is possible for the adjective to precede the noun. "Árida zona" would sound old-fashioned, but it has always been correct. With some adjectives it is even mandatory to place them before the noun (the translation of "a great man" into Spanish is "un gran hombre". "Un hombre grande" would mean "a big man").

Removed:

One of the first Latter-day Saint temples built in the Southwest was the Mesa Arizona Temple which was completed in 1927.

This comment does not belong on this page, but on the main page for Mormonism or a page about Mormon temples. The construction of the temple in and of itself may be an effect of Mormon settlement, but it is not really relevant to state history as a whole. Mormon settlement has already been described in the preceding sentence. This "ta-da" about the temple is self-congratulatory — notice that the grammatical subject is the temple and not the state of Arizona's history or any other relevant item. Jeeves 18:34, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image that may be useful

Just uploaded public domain image of Arizona valley shrouded in fog that may be of use. Image:Arizona valley.jpeg

[edit] Nahuatl?

Removed:

  • Nahuatl word "arizuma" ("silver bearing"). In 1736, a small silver-mining camp called "Real Arissona" by the Spanish was established near Arizonac.

I find this suspect, both because the Nahuatl word for "silver", IIRC, is iztacteocuitlatl, and because Nahuatl does not use the letter r. --Ptcamn 16:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] People

Should Glenn Spencer, a anti-illegal alien advocate be added to Arizona's Famous People ? His organization,American Patrol is located here. It is dedicated to the deportation of illegal aliens, especially of aliens who commit crimes in the US, belong to racist, even terrorist organizations.Martial Law 06:23, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Being a racist doesn't make one not famous. (See, e.g., Adolf Hitler.) --Nlu 06:37, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Glenn found a racist site, and had published it. That site is: http//:www.mexica-movement.org, and it has Mexican racists telling Whites to go back to Europe.Martial Law 06:56, 28 November 2005 (UTC) Arizona suena en ingles como arid zone, pero en uso comun seria simplemente aridland o secarral, zona no es sinonimo de zone.

[edit] Famous UFO Incident

Should I mention the 1997 UFO incident as well ? It is still going on. Go to Jeff Rense UFO articles about Phoenix,AZ.,other AZ UFO cases and go to Phoenix UFO reports and other AZ UFO articles.Martial Law 07:03, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Senators

I clicked on the red link in the infobox for list of Arizona senators. I then proceded to make the list of Arizona senators. I saved and everyting but the link in the infobox still shows red. What's up with that? List of Senators of Arizona Everything in it seems to be fine. ONEder Boy 08:35, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Daylight savings

I could be wrong, but I don't see a mention in the article about how the state doesn't observe Daylight Savings Time. If it isn't there, PLEASE INCLUDE IT! -Amit

Almost all of Arizona doesn't observe daylight savings time. (Exception is the part of Arizona in an Indian reservation that crosses state lines.) There's a great recent article from one of the Arizona papers that can easily be found on google news; but there would be copyright issues. Joncnunn 20:53, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed WikiProject

I'm not sure if anybody interested but I've proposed a WikiProject for Arizona. If you're interested, please sign up at Wikipedia:Wikiproject/List of proposed projects#Arizona.ONEder Boy 20:53, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flare release before landing ?

I've been around on a military base and with military personnel. That "Flare dropping" story may work with the average Joe and Jane, but NOT with ex-military personnel and "military brats". Martial Law 07:37, 11 April 2006 (UTC) :)

I'm near a Command Base and I've seen fighters, A-10s, bombers, tankers, transports, and NOT one had to drop flares to land at all. I am referring to the article in which a US National guard unit had to drop flares to land each and every time to land a plane. Martial Law 07:47, 11 April 2006 (UTC) :)

[edit] I was in Phoenix

While investigating this matter ( The Phoenix UFO Incident )myself, I was told that the National Guard "explanation", the govt. approved "explanation" were all lies. Some of the citizens insisted that they were ridiculed. I was also told other things as well, some of which may indicate sedition and rebellion should there be alien contact. Martial Law 21:10, 17 April 2006 (UTC) :)

[edit] IPA/Arizona

the IPA pronunciation of Arizona is only in English, a Spanish one needs to be added, Arizona is 1/4 latino and alongside english, spanish is the offical langauge.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Qrc2006 (talk • contribs).

  1. Arizona does not have any official languages, though Spanish is spoken by 20% or more.
  2. This is the English Wikipedia. OhNoitsJamieTalk 06:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] estado de arizona

please dont remove the spanish transliteration. english and spanish are cooficial in arizona. it is in line with other articles see Louisiana or Bolivia

I can find no referencing indicating that Spanish is an official language of Arizona. Unless you can find one, there is no reason to have the Spanish name. Bolivia has the Spanish name because Spanish is an official language there. Louisiana is debatable; it doesn't have an official language, though it does officially recognize French. OhNoitsJamieTalk 20:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Link Suggestion

Here is a site that can give readers a good idea of how Arizona really looks. The virtual tour uses 20,000 interconnected pictures of areas around the state: http://www.UntraveledRoad.com/USA/Arizona.htm KelvinSmith (talk • contribs)

You've been told before that's it is spam, and it's still spam. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
That's not true. I was told I could request links in manner, and that if other editors chose to add them, then that was fine. A number did so, even without my request. The person who deleted the links even says he likes the site and only deleted them because I added them myself.KelvinSmith (talk • contribs)
You're correct, you can request additions in this manner. However, I would suggest to users who would consider adding these links to note the spamming campaign in your contribution history. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:49, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Sorry folks, if I've incurred Jamie's wrath. As it stands it's not for Jamie or Kelvin to decide if this link belongs in this article. Please try it out. I think you'll find it unique and entertaining. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by KelvinSmith (talk • contribs).

[edit] Proposed merge

As of the moment, the information contained within Arizona Governor's Mansion seems more suited for inclusion within this article; I am however, unsure as to where to place the information, as it seems a little clunky. Therefore, I propose that Arizona Governor's Mansion be merged into Arizona. Kyra~(talk) 05:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

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