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Arg-Bra Derby: Yahoo Sports (28-06-2005) --Mariano June 28, 2005 14:30 (UTC)

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[edit] Famous players

There's a number of players I wouldn't say are not that famous, or that didn't play much for the Argentine team. For instance, I would remove Luciano Galletti, Mauricio Pocchettino, Antonio Valentin Angelillo and Omar Sivori, and be careful when adding player that are currently playing for the team, such with Gabriel Heinze and Lionel Messi. Mariano(t/c) 11:22, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Sivori must be on the list, most people think he was italian! Jor70 23:53, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Has Sivori even been on the National Team? I'm way too young to have seen him, but according to his page he was banned from playing. SncBlue 23:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
You missed the part that says he had 18 caps with Argentina before moving to Italy and being banned. Mariano(t/c) 06:49, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Current Squad

Guys:

We shouldn't have a current Squad. Jor, I know you don't agree with me but there is no such a thing as a current squad. The base should be something like "Current Stars", where we put players who are recurring in the team (such as Aimar, Riquelme, Tevez, Abbondanzieri, Crespo, etc...). Ustari, Bilos and such are players who are on and off the team and since the squad is assembled only for a specific game or competition is invalid to say what the "current" squad is.

I like the idea of people understanding the base (La base esta!!!!), but adding the third goalie and the last defender on the bench won't accomplish that. I would be amenable to keep the WC squad in there once the list is published and until the WC is over.

Sebastian Kessel Talk 18:36, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

A "Current stars" list is a good idea, and we should change the "Famous players" to "Famous past players" then. Re the WC squad: we could simply include a link to 2006 FIFA World Cup (squads) once that article is ready. --Nanouk 14:43, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Aye aye, I like the approach. Sebastian Kessel Talk 15:06, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Current stars would be ok, so foreign people could get an idea and of course the official WC team must be here too when available.- Jor70 23:51, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Past WC squads

Are we really going to keep all past WC squads here? They are in their respective pages (ie: 2002 FIFA World Cup (squads)... If no opposition, I'll delete soon.

PS: Do you like the "State Flags"? They don't look good and most people don't recognize them anyway...

Sebastian Kessel Talk 00:12, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree. We could have a list of Argentine Squads per year; but first I have to solve some things.
About the flags, I changed the size from 30px to 20px (the standard value for flags) and now they don't look soooo bad. I have no oppinion on the matter. Mariano(t/c) 08:39, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm creating the templates of World Cup teams of Argentina. Regarding the flags, it looks nice. I have to admit that we the Argentine people do not use Provincial flags to identify ourselves, but the flags look nice and they're encyclopedic. Mxcatania 20:25, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Worst Defeat

Why are 3 worst defeat ?? One of them should be worst than the others. Jor70 01:31, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

What is worse 6-1 or 5-0? All other teams' page have several matches with the same result, see for instance Czechoslovakia. Mariano(t/c) 07:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Provincial flags

I don't understand. Who deleted the provincial flags in the WC squad list? Mxcatania 20:32, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Check the history, I don't remember exactly who. In any case, I'm not sure it's such a good idea to have them. Mariano(t/c) 06:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No page?

I went to the Argentina NAtional football team and tehre is no writing or info. There is nothing when you try too edit the page

Someone blanked it, check again, if it still blank, hit refresh. Next time something like this happens, click the history tab and look at previosu edits to see if its been deleted. Philc TECI 17:39, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2006 World Cup Starting lineups

Perhaps it's time to remove this section? None of the other national team pages has this information.

[edit] Current Squad - The return

Gentlemen:

National teams DO NOT have a set roster (like clubs do) except for competitions like the World Cup. The roster changes from match to match and usually does not stay the same. Please DO NOT add the roster again, since it false, unsourced and a POV of whoever is writing the article. The World Cup is over and so that roster is no longer valid (ergo having little value outside of WC2006 related pages). However, "Current Stars" (as in the most renowned players (Crespo, Tevez, Messi, etc) has a place here since it will help readers indentify players that MAY be included on teams. I would be amenable to an addition like that.

PS: The team doesn't even have a coach... how can we pretend to know who the players are? PPS: The one I just reverted even included Cristiano Zanetti, which isn't even an argentine player.

Sebastian Kessel Talk 18:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Most Caps

There seems to be an inconsistency: Diego Simeone is listed as the most capped player, but in his page he has 105 games listed, one less than Javier Zanetti, who has 106. Anyone knows how it is? 01:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Simeone has 106, Zanetti 102, and Ayala 105. I fixed. Mariano(t/c) 09:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)