Talk:Ares V
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- Support GW_Simulations|User Page | Talk | Contribs | E-mail 21:33, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I would like a source for the "Ares V" - the info seems to have been tacked on to the end of the article haphazardly. An official NASA document would be nice :) — QuantumEleven 13:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- OK, maybe I was a bit early, I obviously misinterpreted a rumor as a fact, because the official names were announced today (and it is definatly Ares). - http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/exploration/spacecraft/ares_naming.html
--GW_Simulations|User Page | Talk | Contribs | E-mail 21:06, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] NASA li^Wmarketing?
"Ares V is derived from current Space Shuttle technology, but can trace its lineage to the successful American Saturn V rocket". I see nothing like Saturn V here. I see only a desire to keep Shuttle contractors in business. For one, solid rocket boosters are (1) unsafe - you cannot turn them off if you detect that they are starting to fail in ascent, (2) more costly to maintain (they are cheaper to design, so they were chosen for Shuttle due to design budget shortage), and (3) have environmentally-unfriendly exhaust. Challenger crew paid for those boosters in blood. What's the problem in making liquid boosters a-la Delta IV? Did you see any solids on Saturn V? I didn't. Yet, we see the same Shuttle boosters here AGAIN. Morton Thiokol must be a special NASA friend...
[edit] Trivia section
I've reverted Cjosefy's removal of the trivia section; this refers to a famous work of hard-science fiction which considered an Apollo derived Mars programme, and gave it the name Ares. I think it's reasonable to refer to this. Mtpt 09:49, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
- There probably doesn't need to be a trivia section in any of these articles. What's the point? Is it that amazing that someone would call a fictional mission to Mars "Ares"? And even if this was even slighlty interesting, what is the relevance in an encyclopedia? This "trivia" adds nothing to the article. Cjosefy 21:49, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
- It has exactly the same relevance as in every other article with a trivia section - it provides a broader context. By similar logic the comments about Zubin should be removed as non-encylopedic "original research" - but that would diminish the article as a whole. If you want a list of tech-spec, the NASA site is perhaps more appropriate. Mtpt 17:08, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
- You're right. Both have been removed. Cjosefy 18:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
- It has exactly the same relevance as in every other article with a trivia section - it provides a broader context. By similar logic the comments about Zubin should be removed as non-encylopedic "original research" - but that would diminish the article as a whole. If you want a list of tech-spec, the NASA site is perhaps more appropriate. Mtpt 17:08, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] RS68 vs SSME costs
On the RS-68 main page it states that:
Each RS-68 for the Boeing Delta IV program costs approximately $14 million to build, compared to the SSME at $50 million
On the Ares V page it states that:
a modified RS-68 engine would cost $20 million USD as opposed to $55 million USD for a single-use SSME
Is it the modification for Ares that would cost the extra bling, then? If so, should that be made explicit here? Daen 15:28, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] YouTube links
This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 06:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
