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Comments from Featured Portal review-

  • Leave subheadings out of "Selected article"
  • Intro abit to long
  • Maybe the featured pictures box(the big one) shouldn't be there, just link in the current featured pic.
  • The "Did you know" and "News" sections could use more frequent updates.
  • The "Selected picture" section should include an image credit directly in the text.
  • A box giving an overview of major topics should be created; the current "Articles" box is rather deficient in its breadth.

::I've made a start on this in my Sandbox - if anyone would like to lend a hand, I'd be very appreciative. (BTW to avoid confusion - I've pinched a article list from the biology portal, so there's lots of "cell structure" and other extraneous information there at the moment.)--Mcginnly | Natter 16:50, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Misc

industriel designer

Perhaps our article on industrial design may be of some help? Warofdreams talk 12:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Selected articles and photos

The current selected pages have been posted for two months, when other portals rotate about weekly, so I have some suggestions / nominations for articles and would like feedback and to see more suggestions and articles from others.

Selected article noms: I have started this subpage for nominating portal article features: Portal article nominations

Selecteded picture noms: for nominating and discussing portal features: Portal picture nominations

DVD+ R/W 16:18, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

  • I'd be happy to chip in to refresh the articles on the Portal with others - once a week..? -- Dogears 23:31, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I have been refreshing them every two weeks, if you can provide more nominations we can rotate them weekly. DVD+ R/W 01:15, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Archives

I have created the following two archives:

Featured article archive

Featured picture archive

Also, if there were any before present, please document. DVD+ R/W 01:43, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Portal Column Boxes

I can't get the two columns (the div left and right) to sit next to eachother on the page. It was fine on a different browser, and seems to be fine on this browser for other portals, ie. portal:art and portal:trains. I tried reducing the featured image size to 275 px, but that hasn't helped. If someone can do this, please help. DVD+ R/W 06:35, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I got it. Hopefully it is still fine on other browsers. DVD+ R/W 07:22, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Addition to sidebars

Is there room in one of the boxes on the Portal (& a need) for links to the following?

  • History of western architecture series. Archhistory series (template) (see Architectural_history)
  • One of the tall building series
  • Architecture timeline -- Dogears 23:31, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I think there is. DVD+ R/W 01:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Awards!

This portal has been recognized by Planetizen as one of the Top 10 design sites on the internet for 2006! http://www.planetizen.com/websites/2006

Congratulations, folks! - Amgine 21:24, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Somebody has inserted "vaginal fluids are very tasty" in the lines immediately preceding the Vitruvius quote. I'm cleaning it up.220.227.249.162


somebody deleted entire portal and inserted "ricardo" instead! Admins, please reverse last edit. Alsandro 15:03, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured pictures

I recently added a box of featured pictures. I listed them in text but am now considering listing them as thumbnails, maybe 25, 35, or 50 px. Any thoughts? DVD+ R/W 03:29, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I set the images as thumbnails, and there are various versions saved at two sizes, with and without title captions. Right now they are set at 50px and have titles. Scroll through the versions in the edit history. Any feedback would be helpful. DVD+ R/W 05:58, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I moved the featured pictures to the bottom with a 100% width, and still could use more opinions, about this and the image sizes. DVD+ R/W 20:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

It's a good idea, but it looks untidy at the moment. Perhaps if each was a cell in a table, or if the box was split into several columns with enough pictures in each to tile evenly? Warofdreams talk 21:27, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
You are right about it being untidy. I don't know the markup for tables, can you do it or show me where to find the table code? DVD+ R/W 21:34, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I figured out how to put them in a table, could you take another look and tell me what you think? DVD+ R/W 21:51, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Not sure if I have the right answer for you, but have you considered using the <gallery> tag? I think a subpage of all the featured architecture pictures would be very nice, using the gallery format. I have done something like that with U.S. government pictures, User:Kmf164/U.S._Government/Featured_pictures. Such a page would be too long to be tacked on at the bottom of the portal. Rather, I think there could be a link beneath the "Selected picture" that says "More featured pictures", which sends users to the subpage. Just a suggestion. -Aude (talk | contribs) 22:03, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
That would be a possibility, but I think the table looks good now. Good work, Warofdreams talk 12:55, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Layout

I've tweaked the layout to move Categories higher up the page so that the general reader might be able to navigate more quickly to find specific architects, buildings etc. Your comments would be appreciated. --Mcginnly 13:10, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I like the addition of images to the categories. At first it made the columns misalign but now it doesn't. The images are well chosen and make the categories more accessible. DVD+ R/W 22:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
  • The images make a great addition to the page, and the click-links are very cool. Can the text & images be made smaller (and cropped) to reduce the column width? —dogears (talk) 01:16, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
    • I had to muck about, quite a bit, with the column width yesterday. The column width is now the same width as it was previously (43%) of the total page width - Do you still think it needs reducing? I'm concerned that if the images or text get too small they'll be unintelligable. --Mcginnly 11:47, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Logging in at a library I sometimes edit from, the columns don't align. It looks from this browser like the images should be 75% of their current total width. DVD+ R/W 20:52, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
        • I've reduced the images to about 75% of their initial values. Does anyone know how to centre them in the vertical direction - Marcel looks like he's floating to the top of the page?--Mcginnly 23:54, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
          • The problem is for monitors set at 800 by 600 pixels. The last reduction wasn't enough, and they seem too small at 1024 by 768. Maybe we can revert the last size reduction and align them 3 wide instead of 4? DVD+ R/W 21:29, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
            • I tried some formatting tweaks, to fix alignment, background color, and adjust overall width of the two columns in the portal. Not sure if this entirely fixes the problem with smaller monitors, though? -Aude (talk | contribs) 21:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
              • Looks good at 1024 by 768, but now the selected picture is too wide at 800 by 600. We should try to form a consensus about whether we split the portal down the middle or have one column (the left) slightly larger as on the main page, before proceeding with any further image size adjustments. I am not sure which would be more advantageous. Any thoughts? DVD+ R/W 21:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
              • I am for moving the column widths back to 56 and 43, and placing the category images 3 wide instead of 4 and restoring their size a little. DVD+ R/W 21:58, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
                • Well, to deal with vertical alignment of the images, I have made them all the same height (55px), with the widths appropriate proportion for each image. 55px might (probably is) be to tall. The images can be made shorter. The widths of the two main columns, and selected picture can all be adjusted too, as needed. -Aude (talk | contribs) 21:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
                    • The height adjustment looks good. DVD+ R/W 22:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
                  • For other ideas, look at Portal:Geography which has all the categories in one row, 100% wide across. Portal:History has another arrangement. -Aude (talk | contribs) 21:52, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
                  • I like the 100% across idea and then keeping the rest of the columns as they were, with the left pane larger than the right.--Mcginnly 22:12, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
                    • I moved the categories to 1/3 instead of 1/4 of the window, and the column widths back to 55 44. If we had one more category it would be a 3x3 grid, but who knows what categories will be added, maybe more than one. The 800 by 600 resolution aligns fine with this configuration. Portal:Geography/Articles has a similar 3 wide format but uses a much simpler code. Maybe we should implement it? DVD+ R/W 22:46, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Addition to categories

What categories could we add? Is it complete already? If we add one category it makes a 3x3 grid, only thing I can think of is Category:construction. DVD+ R/W 23:02, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I added category:construction. Here are three possible images:

Any feedback? DVD+ R/W 23:08, 2 June 2006 (UTC) I posted the first for the interum. DVD+ R/W 23:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

  • I prefer the one you went with. The second image doesn't look 'under construction enough' as a thumbnail, and the third risks confusing constructivism with construction.--Mcginnly 10:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Selected anniversaries

I'm somewhat confused by the "Selected anniversaries" section. Are these supposed to be June anniversaries? or what? -Aude (talk contribs) 19:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Further meddling

The box headers have had a colour change towards a more punchier look - the idea was to give the page layout a hint of Blueprints (and loose the pastelly light blue). Many other portals carry a Related Portals Section so I've added one. Oh and I've changed the selected picture to include some more text - Is it too small now? Comments gratefully received. --Mcginnly | Natter 14:56, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

In response to:-Maybe the featured pictures box(the big one) shouldn't be there, just link in the current featured pic. I've put the Selected pictures into a Show/Hide frame so it can be expanded. I did the same to the To do list - in that way they are both closed when one arrives at the page (just one show/hide section starts with the section open). I've put a request in to change the colour of the show/hide text to white and I'll add edit links for both pages. --Mcginnly | Natter 12:06, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Major Topics

I've added a list of major topics shamelessly ripped from the German Portal. Once I've finished the translation, the job will be to give it a global scope. Does anyone read this page anymore?--Mcginnly | Natter 03:47, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mcginnly. I like it, you've got the hang of the hide/show boxes. You've managed even a rare reduced width one, which I'd never seen before. The major topics box has a lot of information, a lot of links, which should be usefull. DVD+ R/W 04:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article recommended for deletion

I just prodded the Architectural visualization article for deletion as a dictionary definition. I would normally notify the original creator, but s/he seems to no longer be editing, so this seemed like a good place to let people who might have an interest in the article know. If you think it should stay it should probably be expanded at least a little to make it clear what such an article would encompass. Thanks --Siobhan Hansa 14:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Great fire of London

I'm considering adding this recently promoted FA to the list of FA's because of it's importance to architecture and the "Aftermath" paragraph that details wren's churches and the reasons why London did not receive Paris style boulevards. But perhaps the architectural link is too weak for inclusion in the Portal - does anyone have a view? --Mcginnly | Natter 09:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I hesitate because of the precident it might create - potentially we'd need to include the 1906 San Francisco earthquake if it became an FA and then every other natural disaster that resulted in rebuilding, Hurricane Katrina etc.etc. --Mcginnly | Natter 11:24, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
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