Talk:Anunnaki
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[edit] NPOV dispute
I've removed the npov dispute from this article. It looks to me like authors have been trying to make the article less biased and I don't see anything that is inherently one sided. The ancient astronaut stuff is all treated fairly, explained as theories. I think this line is a bit pejoritive
- These claims, like all ancient astronaut theories, are generally considered fantasy to some and fascinating speculation to others.
It could be should be changed to something like beliefs instead of fantasies but that one sentence doesn't really warrant a whole npov tag. If anyone still feels that this article is one sided, leave a msg on my talk page and we can make it better :) TitaniumDreads 15:31, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
I tried to take a less credulous tone, here. I don't think I went overboard, but it's hard to be sure.
In particular, the "missing link" bit is a common misconception: human evolution is actually fairly well documented, but it's always possible, no matter how many ancestors and fossils are found, to claim that the connection between any two of them is missing. Anyone taking this approach might do better to assert that chimpanzees were created by aliens--there's no recent fossil record for chimps. Vicki Rosenzweig 19:29, 27 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Is there any real historical matter here or is this all the work of a modern writer? See also Anu with the same question. Rmhermen 01:51, Oct 28, 2003 (UTC)
"However, there were very influential clandestine organizations that took Sitchin’s work much more seriously.
"Ever since at least 1947, US based clandestine organizations as MJ12 have been engaged in the reverse engineering of downed ET spacecraft, and communicating with different ET races. Even more perplexing for clandestine organizations, was the idea that this advanced race could one day return to the Earth and again interact with humanity as they did in the remote past.
"It is very likely that various intelligence gathering efforts confirmed the validity of some if not most of Sitchin’s hypotheses. US and European clandestine organizations would undoubtedly have made it a top priority to gain access to these ancient ET sites in southern Iraq to learn about the advanced technology used by the Anunnaki. Furthermore, they would have been interested in learning more about the purported home world of the Anunnaki in case it did indeed return to the vicinity of the solar system in the near future."
I deleted the above paragraphs from as I believe they fail the NPOV test and lack scholarly value.
There are too many missing references, details and evidences to support the statements. For example, such statements as "very influential clandestine organizations". Which organizations? What evidence supports the alleged activities? The actual role, purpose and existence of MJ-12 is widely disputed as is the existence of "downed ET spacecraft".
"It is very likely...". Is it? According to what authority and credentials? Sources? Evidences?
"... ancient ET sites..." what evidence suggests there are ancient ET sites? Which mainstream authorities accept this existence of ET sites in southern Iraq?
Most of these paragraphs are written as though the author already accepts the conclusions of Sitchin prima facie whereas many of the statements are very debatable commonly disputed by mainstream scholars more learned in the fields of ancient history and languages.
I also cleaned up some of the biases in the text and, in my opinion, slightly improved the flow making it more readable, but I still think a great deal more work needs to go into this article to reflect the variety of views that exist on this topic (i.e. it is not just Sitchin who writes on Anunnaki!) 80.195.186.192 20:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
The following quote is poorly written and based on some rather far-fetched and unsubstatiated premises. I doubt that there will ever be a suitable citation that will verify the statements and so I have deleted it. I suspect that this article has in the past (and will probably be again) edited by followers of the Ancient Astronaut hypothesis attempting to use this page to subtley promote such ideas (either conciously or unconciously). Wikipedia is not an appropriate venue for such activities. Please be careful to avoid using such non-neutral and unscholarly language on this page or you will risk damaging the credibility of the Wikipedia project. If a hypothesis or unsubstantiated idea is being presented it should be presented as such using appropriate language (for example, "It is believed by followers of the X hypothesis that..." and so on. Thank you.
Annunakis are depicted with wings which implies, that they came flying from other planets such as Planet X or Nibiru 3678 years ago in Iraq through the Ashtar Stargate which Americans now must protect until year 2012 waiting for extra-terrestrials to arrive again through the Ashtar (Star) gate in Iraq.[citation needed]
80.195.186.192 18:10, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] UFOlogy and translations
So, does anyone who knows something about cuneiform script care to comment on the translations? I don't know enough to say for sure, but I suspect (based on searches in the Pennsylvania Sumerian Dictionary) that the symbols for anu, na, and ki are quite different to those used to write Anunnaki, and so the UFOlogist theory on the translation is entirely wrongheaded. —E. Underwood 19:45, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- A simple report of the Pennsylvania Sumerian Dictionary entries for anu, na, and ki without drawing extensive conclusions might restore balance. --Wetman 19:55, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Mention
I think a mention of the astronaut stuff might be fair here, but the details need to go somewhere else. An overabundance of such material makes the article a farce. --DanielCD 16:10, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reptilian?
I've heard that the anunnaki were reptilian in nature, according to the sumerian tablets. Is this true?
- No. More reading, less "listening". --Wetman 19:48, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "According to the sumerians"
Twice in a cursory overview of this article I see claims that the speculative theories are sumerian in origin. This is simply absurd. Trying to keep NPOV is one thing, but "Ananaki is ancient Sumerian word for Extra Terrestrials" and "According to Sumerian mythology the Anu came to earth and created a slave race, humans, by bonding their genetic material with that of homoerectus" are incorrect. According to the speculative theories this is what happened, however to say that sumerians had a concept of extraterrestrials, let alone an understanding of what homo erectus is, is absurd! Thanatosimii 04:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
