User talk:Antarcticwik

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[edit] Welcome

Hello Antarcticwik! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some recommended guidelines to facilitate your involvement. Happy Editing! Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 14:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC) Getting Started Wikipedia Tutorial • The five pillars of Wikipedia How to: edit a page • upload an image Getting Help Frequently Asked Questions Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and Guidelines Neutral point of view • Reliable sources Verifiability • Citing sources • No original research What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Fair use • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The Community Build consensus • Resolving disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community Portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Things to do Be bold in editing • Help develop an article Pages needing attention • Peer review Join a WikiProject • Translating articles Cleaning up: General • Spam • Vandalism Miscellaneous Useful templates • Categories • Stubs User pages • Talk pages Tools • User scripts

[edit] TE EXPLICO

HOLA ME ALEGRO QUE DOMINES TAN BIEN MI IDIOMA, TE EXPLICO, QUE LA PAGINA DEMOGRAFIA DE CHILE ES MUY ANTIGUA, LA VERSION QUE DEFIENDO ES PRECISAMENTE LA ANTIGUA , ANDALUZ ES EL QUE LA CAMBIA CON VANDALISMO. MIS FUENTES SON MULTIPLES ENTRE ELLAS, LAS DE CIA World Factbook 2006 Y el ministerio de relaciones exteriores de España (WWW.MAEC.ES/Home/Países y Regiones Chile/Nota País Antarcticwik 05:10, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Ya deje una mensaje en la discusion aqui: User_talk:164.77.85.2. Si cambias la pagina, sugiero que proveas las fuentes. Me parece claro que ustedes estan en un "edit war"; y nadie esta vandalizando. Solo que hay diferencias en lo que debe tener la pagina. Si el te acusa de vandalizar, pero no es el vandalismo, tu puedes responder en tu pagina con palabras como "I am not vandalizing; it is just a disagreement on edit content". Y le pedire que no deje tales mensajes en tu pagina. Pero mensajes racistas no ayudaran tu causa. Perdon si mi dominio del espanol no es bueno. -Patstuart^{(talk)(contribs)} 14:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Andalusia

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you.. Asterion^talk 22:21, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Por cierto, User:Al-Andalus es filipino, así que deja de fastidiar la página de Andalucía o acabarás bloqueado, que ya está bien de jueguecitos vengativos. Asterion^talk 22:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] duplication

duplication? the version that I defend is but the old one. the vandal is Andalus not I. Antarcticwik 17:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Look closely at the version you're reverting; you'll notice the same paragraph is inserted twice, and it's been that way for quite a while now. -Patstuart^{(talk)(contribs)} 17:57, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, Antarcticwik, the version you are inserting removes all the references. If you want to insert text from an older version, you need to copy the wiki source from the edit page. If you just copy the text directly from the older article, you remove references and formatting. VoluntarySlave 20:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

And when you copy and reinsert the sources, make sure the content of the article reflects what the sources actually say. There is no use citing a source if you are going to make up your own figures and state those anyway. Al-Andalus 05:24, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources for Chile

Firstly, don't make edditing Wikipedia a personal experience, and especially don't make personal attacks on other editors.

Now, the problem we are having with your edits (which by the way do constitute vandalism) is that you delete all sources and references, and blank content without any justification. Then you insert your own personal content which you don't back up with not even a single source. In other instances you just simply delete content and sources and leave it at that.

Please provide your sources. That's all. If they check out, then the content will be added to the article as an alternate view, as per NPOV. If your sources are more authoritative and demonstrate that other sources that are currently used are flawed, then the article will reflect that too.

By the way, I have been to Chile, and as beautiful a place as it is (I agree with you there), it is not my personal opinions which are reflected in the article, but those substanciated by the sources that have been contributed.

Another thing, whether I or any other editor is Spanish, Peruvian, Argentinian or Filipino (which by the way, I am none of those), it is very unwise for you to go and vandalise articles of the nationality that you that day percieved the other editor to be. It will work against you as it will illustrate that you are merely a vandal not interested in anything other than impeding the hard work of other editors that contribute well sourced quality content.

Until you have your sources your edits will continue to be reverted, and you will also recieve further warnings (note that you have been warned previosuly by other editors and/or administrators), be reported if persistent, and potentially temporarily or permanently have your username and all associated IP's blocked from editting.

Finally, with the understanding that I have nothing against Chile or Chileans and my edits are not personally motivated, but if you would like to know my personal opinions on Chile, then I invite you to a discussion on the issue in a personal context, if that is what you would like. Perhaps we could both learn something new?

One last thing. Unless I am asked otherwise, and provided I know the language, I will always respond everyone in English, no matter what language they contact me in. Al-Andalus 05:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I just got your last edit to my page, and all I have to say is that it gave me a stich from laughter. To think that you are calling me an envious Filipino who wishes to project his native reality (although you said mestizo not native, which didn't really make sense since you were the one that said that Filipios aren't mestizo but natives, which I agree with) on a "prosperous western" (are you implying "white", because if you are, then Japan is much more prosperous and western, so "whiter" too I suppose) country like Chile. It is all just too hilarious! :) It was not so long ago that all the Filipino editors on wikipedia were calling me a putrid racist anti-Filipino bigot for my daring to even sugget that the only Spanish character that most Filipinos have are their surnames. No, I am not Filipino. And again, like Chileans, I have nothing against Filipinos either. Al-Andalus 05:15, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Al-Andalus

He hasn't broken 3RR. BTW, are you the same person as User:Chileuropride? Please read WP:SOCK, and stick to one account. Gracias. Khoikhoi 21:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not vandalism, it's called a content dispute that you're in. If Chileuropide is Al-Andalus' sockpuppet as you claim, why is his edit pattern almost identical to yours? Do I have to go to WP:RFCU for this? Khoikhoi 21:37, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

As I told you before, I'm going to file a sock report if you use Chile again. That is a promise -Patstuart^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I am Antarcticwik , not Chileeuropide

Chileeuropide is an invention of Al Andalus, it investigates better, Al Andalus is to professional Vandal.-

Antarcticwik 21:49, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

*sigh*. Sir, I don't want to report you. I want to have peace and harmony. But the connections are obvious. 1) You and Chile are making the same edits 2) You are Chile are both conservative and like Pinochet, 3) You and Chile are both "proud" of your whiteness and European history, 4) Chile has edited your user page, 5) you both frequently talk in all caps, 6) You and Chile are both Chileans, whereas Al Andalus is not, 7) Al Andalus is a native English speaker, whereas you are not. Like I said, I don't want to have to push this. Thanks :) -Patstuart^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:55, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User notice: temporary 3RR block

[edit] Regarding reversions [1] made on 1 November and 2 November 2006 to Chile

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.

The duration of the block is 24 hours. Khoikhoi 04:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] But...

1. You and Chileuropride made the same edits
2. You are Chileuropride are both conservative and like Pinochet
3. You and Chileuropride are both "proud" of your whiteness and European history
4. Chileuropride has edited your user page
5. You have edited Chileuropride's user page
6. You both frequently talk in all caps
7. You and Chileuropride are both Chileans, whereas Al-Andalus is not
8. Al-Andalus is a native English speaker, whereas you are not.

Care to explain this to me, señor? Khoikhoi 00:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC) 'YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE SPECULATIVE 1 ANDALUS WAS BLOCKED BY 31 HOURS 2.COINCIDE the AIM OF the BLOCKADE WITH the CHILEEUROPIDE BIRTH. 3. AL ANDALUS PRETENDS THEIR ENGLISH BADLY. 4. IN DEMOGRAPHY OF CHILE CHILEUROPIDE IT DENIES THE INDIGENOUS EXISTENCE OF CHILE I NO. I INSIST I AM NOT CHILEUROPIDE, PLEASE DO NOT OFFEND TO ME. CHILEEUROPIDE IS A INVENTION OF AL ANDALUS, TO ATTACK ME AND HAR ME'''' Antarcticwik' 00:55, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

First off, please do not leave me messages in ALL CAPS BECAUSE ES DIFÍCIL LEER. If he isn't your sockpuppet, it's still meatpuppetry, which is also against the rules. Please review that policy. Khoikhoi 01:10, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chile

Yo se que no lees el ingles muy bien, por eso voy a traducir el mensaje que deje en la pagina de discusion: me canso de las reversiones que ocurren: todo el mundo esta revertiendo, y nadie esta discutiendo. Voy a pedir que se proteja la pagina para que nadie la puede cambiar si siguen las reversiones. Y eso nadie quiere, porque se puede proteger con la version que un lado no queria tener. Por favor, discute los cambios en la pagina, y acaba de solo revertir. Esta es la unica vez que dire algo. -Patstuart^{(talk)(contribs)} 20:38, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chile

Por favor no sigas con tu guerra. El principal artículo de Chile no puede ser el punto de vista de una sola persona, esto es válido tanto para ti como para otros. Además no respetas el trabajo hecho de buena fe por otras personas. El usuario Mwanner removió dos links que eran spam y tú los volviste a colocar y esto ha pasado con muchas ediciones, incluidas algunas mías. Date la molestia de revisar el historial de los artículos y no pases a llevar a los demás. Jespinos 20:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Regarding this comment, It is important to keep a cool head, especially when responding to comments against you or your edits. Personal attacks and disruptive comments only escalate a situation; please keep calm and remember that action can be taken against other parties if necessary. Attacking another user back can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors and leads to general bad feeling. Please try to remain civil with your comments. Thanks! Khoikhoi 04:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I feel attacked by this[[2]] Antarcticwik 19:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Would it help if I go to WP:RFCU? Khoikhoi 03:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Khoikhoi te está preguntando si estás de acuerdo con que él solicite chequear las direcciones ip que corresponden a las ediciones de Chileuropride y las tuyas. Yo tengo claro que tu ISP es Entel. Si se descubre lo anterior, quedarías en una muy mala posición y no sé que consecuencias tendría para ti. Si son direcciones ip de otro ISP chileno, igual te podrían acusar de otras cosas. Lo único que te ayudaría es que se descubriera que las direcciones ip relacionadas con Chileuropride corresponden a bloques de direcciones asignados a organizaciones que no operan en Chile. Tú decides si lo autorizas, porque esa solicitud es una acusación contra ti. Jespinos 15:54, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Estoy absolutamente de acuerdo. Ademas solicito se compare el IP de chieleuropide con el del pais de Andalus. Por que estoy absolutamente seguro que Andalus, invento a Chileuropide para despretigiarme y caricaturizarme ante la comunidad de Wikipedia. Antarcticwik 21:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Lol, you were right man: Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Antarcticwik. I won't bother you about it again. ;-) Cheers, Khoikhoi 05:04, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't know, I don't have checkuser access. Try asking Dmcdevit. Khoikhoi 04:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Yo no sé, porque, yo no tengo checkuser. Necesitas preguntar usuarios eso tienen checkuser. Khoikhoi 20:00, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Antarcticwik, please do not revert to a version of that article from a long time ago. By doing this, you erase everyone else's contributions made in-between. Khoikhoi 01:34, 3 December 2006 (UTC)