Talk:Animal rights and the Holocaust
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[edit] As discussed
Ed, I've created the stub. Good luck! :-) SlimVirgin (talk) 19:40, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- LOL, it's still #5 on my to-do list. But thanks for the headstart! --Uncle Ed 19:43, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Um, Slim, sorry I didn't get started yet. I was working on Mission of the Messiah which somehow seems related.
- I hope when you finish, we can use the nifty {{main}} template to link from PETA to this article; with Animal rights and the Holocaust being a sub-article or "spin-off" from PETA. (If it's neutral, then it's not a fork. Keep saying this, like a mantra. ;-) --Uncle Ed 20:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Singer reference
Should the comparison made by a Singer character in the Letter Writer, as referenced by the PETA article, not be included here too? Crum375 23:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, also in The Penitent. There's a lot more material to add. I'm planning to work on it over the next few days. SlimVirgin (talk) 00:56, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hmm. I've already added the Singer quote, not having read this talk page before. Feel free to rewrite it or put it into better context or whatever. —Gabbe 11:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Difficulty of maintaining neutrality
I daresay that the difficulty of maintaining neutrality about the Holocaust on your Plate campaign has not been lessened by the (agreed-upon) creation of this spin-off page. In order to keep it from becoming a Wikipedia:POV fork, we need to keep working hard to ensure that our own pro- or anti-PETA biases do not leak into our writing.
One issue that comes to mind is whether comparing prisoners to pigs:
- elevates animals to the moral level of people (as PETA no doubt intended it); or,
- reduces people to moral level of animals (as ADF certainly took it)
Immediately I'll be accused of bias for even bringing this up, and that's okay. Even though Wikipedia is not a blog, if anyone's interested in my views you are welcome to ask me. As a member of the Unification Church, I believe in the doctrine of Three Great Blessings (sorry, I've never gotten around to writing that article; just lazy, I guess). Sneak preview: Before Father Moon became a reverend, he was an avid observer of nature and:
- One day after he had prayed, it seemed as if the trees, bushes and grass began to speak: "Nobody takes care of us. We feel abandoned by mankind" Realizing that nature cried out to be loved, he felt like embracing the entire world, vowing, "I will be your caretaker." [1]
Sorry if this is off-topic. Just thought I'd say something nice. --Uncle Ed 14:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge this and 'Animal rights and antisemitism'
As someone has proposed the 2 be merged, and no-one has discussed it over there, I will ask about it here. Animal rights and antisemitism seems to be the large chunk of text that someone was trying to add to Animal rights a while ago. As it stands, it is entirely biased and therefore POV. I think we should summarise the text further as it seems to be an analysis of one author only, quoting lots of their text. However, it also contains some valid points.
We wouldn't really want to merge it into this article as it would be off topic, but should we merge this article into that one after working on it? What do people think?-Localzuk(talk) 14:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- Note also, that it was created by Farnsworth J, a known Homey sock. It does seem to be a bit of a POV fork to me.-Localzuk(talk) 14:23, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- Now that I look at it, I see it would be off-topic to add it here. I don't know what to do with it. It's an incredibly silly argument/page that Homeontherange added only to cause trouble. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
