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[edit] To the EDITOR who reverted my addition without reading it...
You said in your edit history comment "find a mainstream source and don't just plonk it in any old where)". Did you read my addition? The LATimes is quite reputable and I plonked it in the actions sections, because placing a molotov cocktail at an old lady's house is an action, albeit insensitive and un-neighborly. I suggest you READ the edits before your REVERT next time. Have a nice day. --66.69.141.112 04:55, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- You placed your edit in the middle of a discussion about HLS. That action had nothing to do with HLS. It would help if you would read articles before editing, and if another editor says they are going to move the section, wait for them to do that rather than reverting, or else you'll end up with it being on the page twice, which is what happened. And don't use attack headers. SlimVirgin (talk) 05:25, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
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- I replaced the original header. It is inappropriate to edit other people's words in the talk section - that is tantamount to censorship. If you don't like what someone else has written then ask them to change it, but don't change it for them. --SpinyNorman 19:11, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- I have re-edited the title. I am afraid it violated the rules and the person who changed it was doing so justly.-Localzuk (talk) 19:54, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- And I have re-replaced the original header. Sorry, but to change someone else's words on the talk page is clearly unacceptable. The talk page, among other things, serves as a log... a record of communication between many different people. As such, it is only appropriate to edit your own words (unless you're dealing with vandalism). If you want the person who wrote the header to change it, I suggest you ask them to do so but you may not take it upon yourself to do it for them. --SpinyNorman 07:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- Please read this policy regarding personal attacks. As the heading of this section breached this policy, it is the norm to remove the attack. Please stop editing disruptively as this is a non-issue unless you make it one. See Wikipedia:Blocking_policy#Disruption.-Localzuk (talk) 17:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- And I have re-replaced the original header. Sorry, but to change someone else's words on the talk page is clearly unacceptable. The talk page, among other things, serves as a log... a record of communication between many different people. As such, it is only appropriate to edit your own words (unless you're dealing with vandalism). If you want the person who wrote the header to change it, I suggest you ask them to do so but you may not take it upon yourself to do it for them. --SpinyNorman 07:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- I have re-edited the title. I am afraid it violated the rules and the person who changed it was doing so justly.-Localzuk (talk) 19:54, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- I replaced the original header. It is inappropriate to edit other people's words in the talk section - that is tantamount to censorship. If you don't like what someone else has written then ask them to change it, but don't change it for them. --SpinyNorman 19:11, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Verifiability
Information sourced from advocacy sites ought to be deleted. Steven Best is an academic. Any writing by him in peer reviewed journal or in newsmedia is in. His other writing is rather problematic. At this point, I would make POV attribution. Vapour
I deleted reference from advocacy sites in intro. Please revive these sites in "External Links". Vapour
[edit] Unclear Differentiation between A.L.F and other "liberation" groups
Apologies if this has already been hashed out, but I'm new here:
It seems that discussion of non-ALF groups (e.g. Band of Mercy, etc) ought to be moved to their own pages (I'll create them if necessary) to limit confusion. Reading the article, it seems particularly that descriptions of actions not attributable to ALF is inappropriate for this page. To respond to a possible objection, yes various individuals who have participated in ALF actions have also been involved with other groups, however ALF actions have very specific parameters which qualify various actions as "ALF."
--C.lettinga 05:53, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps all references to other groups should be put into a section at the bottom? I don't think that we have enough content for the others, and they'd do better off for now without their own articles. Canæn 07:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Someone seems to have cleaned up the largest problems; there's still an unscourced portion about an ARM "mars bar" action that seems particularly unclear, and some out of context quotes. I'll try to fix them up with good faith in mind, just let me know if you think they're innapropriate. I'm new here, so apologies if I step on anyones' toes.--C.lettinga 06:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Currie
We now have 2 copies of the currie information - one under 'Attitudes towards violence' - in the same paragraph about SHAC?? and the one I moved up into the 'Actions' section. Where should it go?-Localzuk(talk) 11:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC)