User talk:Angela

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[edit] Ektron

Confused about your deletion of Ektron. Documentum has its own page, as does Drupal, Mambo, etc. All sorts of software packages have their own pages. Ektron is probably the most popular commercial WCM system in the world (they have 15,000 installations), and they employ 70 people up in Amherst.

It was a recreation of a previously deleted page and read more like an advert than an article. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ektron. Angela.

[edit] Thank you

Hello Angela, Thank you for your comments regarding Lostpedia in the recent Deletion Review. I appreciate the support! --Kevincroy 09:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Brahma Kumaris Discussion page

Hello Angela, I just wanted to state the reason I placed the posting in the discussion page.

The first being that in the past the Braham Kumaris members delete their talk pages and hide the history of events. The second being that the following actually is on topic, some of which they have sought to have deleted and others that have yet to be introduced into the article. So, that was the reason for placing it there, as the history will document there is a pattern of personal attacks upon anyone that brings forth these issues:

• Child Abuse
• Child sexual abuse
• Ex-Member attempting suicide
• Ex-Members committing suicide
• Member being asked to break all contact with their families
• Ex-Members having severe psychological problems due to the Tenets/Teachings/Indoctrination
• Ex-Members not being offered any Exit counseling.....
• Destruction

So, I shall see how long it stays on his talk page. I don't delete what they place on mine. RegardsTalkAbout 15:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

If you're concerned about replies being deleted, you could keep your reply on your own talk page and rely on the other person having that page watchlisted and seeing the reply there. Perhaps the reason people don't keep your messages is because they feel you are attacking them, in which case it's perfectly reasonable to remove those. Angela. 16:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help please

Hi Angela,

please can you tell me how to add a link that will link to my skype account, where users can just click the link and it redirects them to my skype call.. the htm code is usually callto://username

regards

simon

SkypeMe:YourSkypeId should start working soon since I just added it to the Interwiki map. Angela. 02:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanx for the info, will it only work when they upgrade the wiki software? Please let me know when it is working, just tried to add it to wiki webpage but it doesn't work. Thanx for the help.

regards simon

The interwiki map used to update every 10 minutes. That's no longer the case and it needs to manually updated. However, Tim Starling thinks it shouldn't be there since it's not a wiki (though Wikia have done it that way for years). He's made it so you can use [callto://skypeID] instead. Angela. 07:25, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanx for the help, neither [callto://skypeID] nor SkypeMe:YourSkypeId works.

i know that this isnt a wiki, but neither is a link to an external website or an email address. this is a way of contacting the author of the post. If you find a method of making this work please post it here, thanx again for taking the time to respond. regards - simon ps.the site i would like to use this on is www.goplett.co.za

Don't put the <nowiki> tags around it. I just did that to demonstrate the code to you. [callto://skypeID] displays as [callto://skypeID] which does work. You can also do [callto://skypeID SkypeMe] which displays as [callto://skypeID SkypeMe] or the plain callto://skypeID on its own.

I thought you were asking me about using this on Wikipedia. I can't make it work on a non-Wikia site. You need to fix that yourself. Find wherever the mailto handling is and adapt that file, or install your own interwiki map. Angela. 11:41, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanx for this info, i will look into fixing the problem, sorry i asked when its a non wiki site, the reason i asked is because it uses wiki software.. anyway thanx again for the help, will try to fix it and let you know if i fixed it, regards simon

You might find the MediaWiki mailing list a better place to ask this sort of question. Angela. 15:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

It was working last week, but Brion disabled it, so I suggest you use the Interwiki map approach on your own wiki. Angela. 14:34, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tit for Tat NPA?

Hi Angela,
Since your intervention regarding the forest fire (User_talk:TalkAbout#NPA) I replied to the post in a way I felt appropriate and received a return NPA on my talk page User_talk:Bksimonb. As I see it I was merely advising that ranting on the article discussion page (that you removed) is not desirable. I would really appreciated it if you could let me know if you feel the NPA against me is bogus or if I did indeed go too far. I will then know whether to reject the NPA or apologise and accept it as appropriate. If it is inappropriate do I just delete it?
Regards Bksimonb 12:31, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by reject an NPA. NPA is policy and you need to adhere to it, not find ways around it to offend people. Angela.

Hi Angela, sorry that was a bad choice of words on my part and also ambiguous. I meant to ask what to do if I strongly suspect an {{npa2}} has been issued to me where no breach of NPA took place [[1]] i.e. I have not actually intended to nor believe I actually carried out a personal attack or to offend.

Certainly my response to talkabout [[2]] was strongly worded and assertive but I thought it appropriate to make it clear to User:Talkabout that I object to,

• Repeated false allocations of wrongdoing [[3]][[4]][[5]],
• Presumption of bad faith ,
• Implied guilt by association of other editors activities,
• Plastering the accusation on the article discussion page (forest fire).

The allegations and presumption of bad faith have continued right up until the latest post by Talkabout, 'What I see here is that you are trying to work the system to hide your true practices, to suit your PR needs under a shield of "verifiable" sources approved by your members, while leaving others out that are quite legitimate.'

I hope you appreciate that it is not much fun being targeted by a smear campaign and right now I would just like the personal attacks to stop. I have no personal interest in finding out who Talkabout really is nor do I see any need to abuse Wikipedia. All I have ever tried to accomplish is an article to normal encyclopedic standards because I am confident that in itself will result in a more balanced article on the BKWSU.

Right now the immediate problem (apart from the article itself) is a lack of civility on the talk page. I am trying to address this by what I understand to be the correct procedures. I would be grateful for any advice you can offer on how best to proceed.

Thanks & regards Bksimonb 14:02, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I have a question

The administrator of catalan wiktionary doesn't connect never. The problem is that we have one administrator so we don't edit the special pages. As a result, it's impossible improve wiktionary. Do you understand me? Can you help me?

Sorry, for mistakes. KRLS (talk me) (UTC)

I've replied at w:ca:Usuari Discussió:KRLS. Angela. 14:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Open proxy?

Hi Glen. I was just wondering how you knew this user was editing through an open proxy. I saw Dancing for Darfur listed for speedy deletion and thought it was worth saving for the Darfur Wiki, but perhaps not if the user is being problematic. I'd appreciate more information on this. Thanks. Angela. 13:10, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

It was pointed out to me in the admin channel by an observant user. If you check their contribs here you'll notice the backslashing... I dont know why but when users edit though open proxys they appear everywhere (I even tried to confirm).

Do you think this may be in error? Of course, feel free to unblock, or I would be happy to if this is the case. Thanks Angela Glen 13:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

If they're in Darfur, they may have a perfectly valid reason for using an open proxy. I'm not aware of any edits other than that article being created (and only once), so the block before they've had a chance to respond to the first warning seems unfair. It's only using open proxies maliciously that's a problem, not using them in general, unless there has been previous spamming of this domain that I'm unaware of. Angela. 13:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

The user obviously noticed the blackslashes, as he went to remove some of it, but just kept producing more of them. That was the second thing I noticed when tagging the article. — CharlotteWebb 13:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Proxies that cause backslashes are generally blocked for that effect (doing article damage that the user can't actually control) rather than on principle. — CharlotteWebb 13:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Ok my apologies. Policy states "Users are forbidden from editing Wikimedia projects through open or anonymous proxies." and that they may be indef blocked by any admin at any time so I have never actually looked to see if they are used abusively or not. I will unblock the user, and explain the error on my part. Thanks Glen 13:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Charlotte's point makes sense. Blocking them for the damage to articles, even if accidental, is a good idea, though the block message should explain this, and not imply they were blocked for wrong doing so as to not bite the newbies. :) (which I see you've now done) Angela. 13:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Edit conflict. Okay, sorted. I have explained here and unblocked accordingly. Again, my apologies Glen 13:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Additional: Understood. I did offer a brief explanation in the block summary "user editing via an open proxy" but yes, my bad. Glen 13:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] De-sysop me please

Can you de-sysop me please. I'm sick of the mess that has developed and I am sick of trying to explain myself. I have left (or rather been trying to leave) anyway, so there is really no point in me having those tools.--Konst.able^Talk 01:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Buffy/Angel Episode Guide Copyright

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I'm extremely puzzled and disappointed by this whole situation. I contacted BuffyGuide through http://www.buffyguide.com/mail/contact.shtml to ask whether they were interested in sharing the short summaries on Wikipedia. I offered to create a ghost account called 'BuffyGuide.com' which would represent the site and the respect work (since this was not allowed I created 'BuffyGuide'). I did this with premission and agreement because I told the web master that I did not deserve credit for adding these summaries to Wikipdeia when the much harder work was their creation. My workplace blocks access to email right now, but I'm sure I will still have those emails detailing our correspondence over this issue. I have explained the situation to the user, Actual BuffyGuide here, hopefully this whole situation will be cleared up, because to be honest I am very confused as to why I was told that using the summaries was fine after contacting the site through http://www.buffyguide.com/mail/contact.shtml, and now Actual BuffyGuide are stating that material has been used without permission? I will find those emails later when I have access to my email, and also email the web master again to find out what is going on?

Similarly, I contacted AnGeL X through her email at http://www.angelicslayer.com/angelsoul/main.html, about the use of synopses, and she generously allowed their use on Wikipedia. Once again I offered to setup an account, AnGeL X to make it clear I had not written these synopses, but they had come from the web site, angelicslayer.com. - Paxomen 10:10, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] WoW -nitpick

Regarding [6] I think your description of it as one of the "most edited articles ever". For example Evolution and most other controversial topics have far more edits than that even when one removes vandalism edits. I would not be surprised if some of the candidates in the last US Senate and House elections had that many edits as well. It might be fair to say that it is one of the most edited articles that is not FA and is not a controversial topic. JoshuaZ 15:35, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but evolution hasn't been deleted. I said this was one of the most edited articles ever to be deleted not just one of the most edited articles. I don't know of any other page deleted via AfD with more than 1100 edits. Angela. 16:24, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Académie française

Hi

I see you previously participated in the discussion on Talk:Académie française and will probably want to comment on the requested page move. --Espoo 07:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't have anything to add beyond the comment I made on that page 2 years ago. Angela. 10:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

At the time you felt Google searches can't help, but my work has now produced results that clearly show current use on reputable sites (plus other encyclopedias!). In addition, there is danger of my proposed move being rejected due to opinions that disregard basic WP policies. This is a prominent article with a foreign name which therefore erodes one of WP's most basic policies. I see you're an admin and would therefore like to ask you to spend a few seconds reading my nomination (quoted here) or a few minutes reading my responses to the erroneous arguments in the opposing votes:

By restricting Google searches to reputable sites, e.g. edu domains or UK or Canadian universities, it is very easy to prove that the current title is nonsense in addition to violating WP policy. Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(use_English) says clearly use the most commonly used English version of the name for the article, as you would find it in other encyclopedias and reference works. Even highly educated people only very rarely say the French name in the middle of an English sentence. And Encyclopædia Britannica and other reference works therefore also obviously have the English title.

Quote from Encyclopædia Britannica: French Academy - French ACADÉMIE FRANÇAISE, French literary academy, established by...

We also have French Academy of Sciences.

Thanks for your time! --Espoo 08:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Participation Inequality

When I tagged the article, It was known as the 1% rule and looked just as verifiable as the 10 second rule.. Sorry about that one. 68.144.239.145 05:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] User Talk page

My user talk page that you have move from User talk:っ is lost. Do you know where is it? Is it deleted?--っ (Tsutsu) 09:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Misza13 deleted it. I have no idea why. The deletion comment says "not edited for a month" which is certainly not a reason to delete a user talk page. Angela. 09:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Not sure about the deletion, but the cat "temporary userpages" comes up when we use {{UsernameBlocked}} for innappropriate usernames, if it helps?  Glen  09:40, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, yes I know. We remove the template above after a month, as some of the usernames are offensive or we ideally dont want displayed per WP:DENY, and then delete the talk accordingly. If it only had that template it would possibly explain why it wasnt moved to the new username. Does this help?  Glen  09:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Please look at the page. This is the user's new name and the page obviously does not contain only a template. Angela. 11:31, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, it seems it was his old page as っ but you moved it Oct 20 here?  Glen  11:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

That's what's meant to happen when you rename a user. I can't understand why such pages would be deleted without even looking at them. Angela. 11:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, forgive my confusion. It seems that the {{UsernameBlocked}} template was still on the page after the move (as one would expect) and Misza saw the Category: Temporary Wikipedian userpages on the page and deleted it after a month (probably assuming it was an old page from a user since moved on). Ive removed the cat so it doesnt happen again  Glen  11:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps the category should be removed from the template to prevent it happening again. Just because someone is asked to change from a non-offensive name does not make them a "temporary Wikipedian" and it seems quite offensive to suggest that anyone with non-Latin characters in their name should be placed in this category and have their user talk page deleted as a result. Angela. 12:07, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Another idea would be to put a notice to the bureaucrats that handle WP:CHU requests reminding of the need to decategorize (if necessary) any affected pages. We really don't want some pages to show up in searches. Oh, and again, as I've already noted on my talk page, it's not "userpages that belong to temporary Wikipedians", but rather "Wikipedian pages that are temporary", so there's nothing offensive in it (although I admit it reads ambiguously). Misza13 15:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

• Wow, that cat is huge! I agree that this is not being handled as it should. I know the "no non-Latin names" policy is relatively new; do you know why it was instated like that as it appears to cause some problems? (Radiant) 12:31, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

• • I don't know why. It seems fairly obvious that people blocked for not having an English name shouldn't have the same template used on them as people blocked for calling themselves FuckOffRadiant though. ;) Angela. 16:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
    • The no non-latin usernames is not "fairly new". It has been policy for at least a year but I'm not going to go look up the exact date. It is explained in the policy why it is used. See the talk page of the policy for a discussion on what the real issue is now, what will happen when universal login is activated for people with say, usernames with only Japanese characters? Since we don't know the technical details of the implementation, there hasn't been an obvious answer. Now, the "temporary wikipedian" category is fairly new and needs to be removed from the template or reworded at the very least. It is not being used correctly I agree. pschemp | talk 05:33, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
• This might help? Please copyedit. (Radiant) 16:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject:LEAD

I have proposed [7] a very bold wikiproject to have article's lead paragraphs conform to WP:LEAD, it could potentialy be an issue of debate as presently thousands of articles do not conform and would be tagged. I would very much appreciate your advice on the WP:LEAD talk page. Thanks FrummerThanThou 15:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello from WikiCast..

Hi,

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A longer term aim is to actually have some kind of stream, but at the moment is on programme production and ideas for programmes.

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[edit] need a page removed

The page called 'divvo' contains no verifiable facts and the source of the information has confirmed no such punctuation mark exists. As the author of the original article I would like to request its removal, but do not know the procedure. Please remove this article entirely. Aristotle16. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aristotle16 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC). —The preceding comment actually was signed. Typing your name still shows what your name is so there's not a lot of point in a bot making silly comments about signed comments being unsigned, is there? Silly comment about a comment was added by HagermanBot (talk • contribs) 15:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

I've deleted it. Angela

[edit] Thanks & question

Thanks for the welcome Angela! It was great meeting you too.

I'd love to join WikiChix... are you one of the people I can contact to join? :)

Sara.g.goldstein 12:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I've sent you an email about this. Angela. 07:04, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiChix mailing list

Hello, I recently read about the mailing list story on the Wikipedia Signpost, and as the opinionated twit I am I felt the need to chip in my two cents. I don't know where the discussion takes place - I have a feeling I couldn't write your mailing list ;) - so I'm pitching it in on your talk page - I hope you don't mind.

I have to say I think banning men from a mailing list trying to combat sexism is a spectacularily bad idea. The very successful debian-women project has both a majority prescence of men in the channel and on the mailing list, which I think is a good thing. As my English teacher said - "It's much easier to criticize the system if you're on top of it". ;)

You are turning it into a battle of genitals as opposed to values. An attempt like this to polarize the debate as being between men/women as opposed to sane people/sexists or modern people/cultural backwardness will do the cause immeasurable harm, in fact I think the unavoidable overwhelming support by men towards your cause would be invaluable for a woman who feels insecure in contributing or becoming a closer part of the Wikipedia team, as women have said who have been involved in debian-women.

Good luck, and apologees if this is not the correct forum -- toresbe 06:51, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Have you seen the FAQ? Also, comments are welcomed on the comments page on the wiki. Angela. 07:04, 12 December 2006 (UTC)