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[edit] Thanks for making me an admin at ceb-wp ;)

Hi Angela,

Thanks for making me an admin and bureaucrat at ceb-wp. I promise I will do my best to be a responsible member of the community ;). --Bentong Isles, Oct. 25, 2005, 20.45 (Philippine Time)

No problem :) Angela.

[edit] Lists of slang sexual terms standards

I just closed an AfD as DELETE Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Body_parts_slang_2. However, a similar(some of it is redemable as it is common knowledge and the terms are used in numerous maintream books) article Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of sexual slang had KEEP. The intro to sexual slang article is better, but the rest drifts off into O.R. just like the "article" that I just deleted.

We really need to get a standard for these, are they OK or not? And how should they be done? WP:NOR and the fact that Wikipedia is not a random assortment of info (also policy) present huge problems for such articles. I could say 656 means "sex using X and Y and position Z" and there is nothing to back it up. I just don't think this stuff belongs at Wikipedia. If one wants to search for such things, then use Google.

Hopefully, my decision will be a landmark one, so we can get all this O.R. nonsense off Wikipedia.

Any thoughs from our lovely Stewardess?(no puns impied)...this is a serious matter though. [[User:Voice of All(MTG)|]] 15:15, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Wouldn't adding sources and removing any unsourced terms solve the problem? Angela.
Yes, in a way, that is why the other article survived, as some of it was citable, although much garbage still exists. The Body Parts Slang article had nothing salvagable. Still, a clear(as much as possible) standard should be established. [[User:Voice of All(MTG)|]] 13:50, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] rIPping vandals (publicly revealing IP address of the most disruptive vandals)

I have posted Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#rIPping_.28and_ToSsing.29_vandals, calling on User:David Gerard to publicly reveal the IPs of the vandalbot socks that have been reverting Sealand, which I believe to be in keeping with item 5 of the Wikimedia Foundation privacy policy.

More generally, I believe that revealing IP (rIPping) vandals should be an option in the most disruptive cases of sockpuppet vandalism (especially vandalbots) that prevents Wikipedia from functioning normally (causing articles to be permanently protected, for instance). This would be an alternative to the earlier proposal to give more users Checkuser privilege, with the advantage that the privacy of ordinary users (and even garden-variety vandals) would be as secure as before.

Publicly revealing the IP would allow the grunt work of liaising with ISP's abuse contact person to be delegated to a "ToS committee" (Terms of Service) of ordinary users (without checkuser privilege), so reporting of terms of service violations to ISPs and followup could be done more systematically and effectively than is the case today. -- Curps 20:50, 28 October 2005 (UTC)


You don't need to publicly reveal the IP in order to write to the ISP. Why does the IP need to be made public to anyone other than the person reporting it? Angela. 05:40, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Angela, I have a question

Angela, there is a contributor that owns a record distributing company. She post her website as an External link. Is it against Wiki policy to post an external link in an article that will lead you to a site where a person may purchase merchandise of the person who is the object of the mentioned article? Thank you Tony the Marine 08:27, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Note: Here is an example, Raphy Leavitt Tony the Marine 14:27, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Archive subpages problematic on my watchlist

Hi Angela. I don't know who to go with this, so I try you :) I recently made some archives of talk page, for instance Talk:Jazz/Archive1. I added it to my watchlist, and I see changes made to the archive on my watchlist (I tested it). However, in the wathclist itself (after clicking "display and edit the complete list") I see this link. Do you know what's up with that? Karol 09:42, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rumour

I hear a rumour you'll be in Sydney sometime. Is this true? - Ta bu shi da yu 13:58, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes, the rumour's true, as I notice you've found out for yourself at Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney. :) Angela. 16:09, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Afar stats

Hi, I've been discussing this with David Cannon who does the stats pages, and he referred me to you!

You see, all the stats and rankings for all wikis are all skewed by the fact that the "numberofarticles" counter for the Afar wikipedia for reasons I can't explain, reads "6", when the actual number of articles there happens to be more like "0"... There have not been any articles whatsoever there for months, not even the vandals' joke articles that were all deleted... What could be causing this? Codex Sinaiticus 00:40, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Danish Blue cheese pic

Hi Angela - picture now changed and the old one deleted. Keep munching! :) Brookie: A collector of little round things 19:48, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

That's good news. Thanks for telling me. :) Angela. 20:39, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikispecies

Hi Angela, can you please have a look at bug 3578? This is really important for Wikispecies; it will be much easier to keep links to Wikipedia up-to-date with this feature. Thanks a lot, Ucucha (talk) (wikispecies:User:Ucucha) 10:41, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, but I can't do this. You need to find someone with at least shell access from the list of developers. Angela. 00:04, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
I see... thank you anyway. Ucucha (talk) 05:57, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Income tax

Could you help me and some other users with the page income tax? For the past few days, an anonymous user has been inserting lunatic fringe tax-protester arguments into the article. Despite repeated requests for him to stop—and attempts by one user to reason with him—he insists on continually disrupting the article. (Many of his edits are simply pasted in (very badly) from tax protester sites (e.g., [1], taken from Lucas v. Earle)). These edits have completely disrupted income tax and it does not seem possible to reason with him. Can we block this user for vandalism? His edits are technically "content", but are so far off the mainstream they amount to saying "black is white". Thank you. — Mateo SA | talk 01:19, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

I have reported this at WP:ANI. The anon is probably over the 3RR limit, but is using multiple IPs, and in any case, I am at least arguably involved in the content dispute, so i don't feel comfy imposing a block. DES (talk) 01:34, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Unblock ne pls!

I was blocked because of my edits in the article about Yigal Amir. I think that blocking me was an abuse of adminship. pls unblock me. User:Haham hanuka

[edit] Signature broken

Hello, Angela. Since the HTML Tidy extension of MediaWiki was disabled, your signature is not rendering properly. You might want to recheck its HTML. Titoxd(?!?) 01:34, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

I find that surprising since it only contains Angela]][[user talk:Angela|. and no HTML. Angela 03:05, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I asked the developers, and they said that both wiki markup and html markup are no longer allowed on non-raw signatures. If you want to use both, you need to use raw signatures (which do not automatically link to the user page). --cesarb 15:25, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:How to fix your signature. --cesarb 17:00, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I'd seen that, but thanks for pointing it out anyway. :) Angela. 05:36, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ted Wilkes

Please be advised that I am filing a complaint against Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee member Fred Bauder. The significance of this matter is such that I would ask that you bring it to the attention of the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation Inc. Thank you. - Ted Wilkes 20:01, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

It doesn't seem like a Board matter. I'm quite sure the ArbCom can deal with it. Angela. 12:33, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Could it be that User:Ted Wilkes is identical with multiple hardbanned User:DW? He frequently deletes contributions by others and aggressively attacks users and even administrators and members of the arbitration committee if their opinions are not in line with his personal view. For instance, he repeatedly, and falsely, claimed that my edits are fabricated, unfounded, or unwarranted and therefore must be removed. On 7 November 2003 User:NightCrawler, obviously an Elvis Presley fan like Ted Wilkes, deleted a passage relating to a claim by David Bret that Elvis may have been gay. See [2]. The same user added some denigrating remarks on Bret's book to the related discussion page, which were similar to those later written by Ted Wilkes. See [3]. In November 2003, NightCrawler was hardbanned. See [4]. But NightCrawler reappeared as User:JillandJack creating a new, denigrating article on biographer David Bret. See [5]. This biased article was rewritten by me on 4 April 2004. See [6]. In the meantime, JillandJack was hardbanned. On 20 April 2005, some different comment concerning author David Bret and his book was added. See [7]. This was repeatedly deleted by IP 66.61.69.65. See, for instance, [8], [9], [10]. Administrator DropDeadGorgias was forced to restore this comment. See [11]. Since May 2005 there was an edit war between Ted Wilkes and me concerning the article on David Bret and particularly his book, Elvis: The Hollywood Years, presumably because of Bret's claim that Elvis had homosexual leanings - a claim Ted Wilkes didn't like from the beginning. See [12] On 5 May, Ted Wilkes reinstated, without further commentary, the biased version by JillandJack thereby deleting a link to a positive Guardian review of a book written by Bret. See [13]. Significantly, Ted Wilkes repeatedly reverted the article to the version he preferred, i.e., exactly the version JillandJack had created, accusing me of distortions, fabrications, being a vandal, etc. See [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], etc. etc. It should also be noted that Ted Wilkes repeatedly violated the 3RR in the past and was blocked for doing so. See, for instance, [24]. It is also very interesting that users Ted Wilkes and Wyss, who frequently worked together in deleting my contributions to Wikipedia articles, are now working together in denigrating a member of the arbitration committee, simply because his opinion was not in line with their personal view. See Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Fred_Bauder and Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration#Fred_Bauder. Onefortyone 22:56, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

I've not looked at his edits enough to be able to judge whether he's DW, but now there's a request for arbitration, hopefully the ArbCom will be able to determine whether that's the case. Angela. 12:33, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

I had a discussion on IRC today with editor Sasa Stefanovic, who was looking for someone to block 65.9.143.188 over a dispute over which image to use on List of Serbs. He claims to be an admin on srwiki (which I don't doubt) and insists that the image he wants on the article is the one preferred by the admins of srwiki. Now, frankly, enwiki isn't required to follow the vote of a bunch of srwiki admins. I pointed out that this appears to be a content dispute and asked him to follow en's dispute resolution policy, but he refused, saying instead that he would ask you to take care of it on the grounds that "you would understand him". I would ask you to refuse to bypass en's dispute resolution processes simply because he requests it of you. This matter should be resolved according to en's policies; his role, rank, or status on a sister project is not grounds for special treatment in this regard. Thanks, Kelly Martin (talk) 21:34, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi Angela, as you can see here i put image Image:Srbi.jpg on article List of Serbs because that image is voted here, almost all active admins vote for that picture. User:Antidote is start to revert that picture with his own Image:Srbs3.JPG on article Serbs (you can see that in history). Now after i put that same image on article List of Serbs *vandal* 65.9.143.188 is start to revert it. I looking on IRC for some admin who can help me and block that vandal, and thay told me to discuss that with that vandal, i think that this unregisterd user is User:Antidote, and he start again to revert this picture. Picture that i request to be on article List of Serbs is voted picture (i must say this again because it very important here). Well that is all story about one vandal against almost all active admins from sr: wiki. Best regards --Sasa Stefanovic 22:01, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
I agree with Kelly that votes of admins on another project shouldn't overrule policies or community decisions here. Adminship isn't about this sort of content decision anyway - it's just about trused people having access to some functions that make it easier for them to maintain their wiki. I can only advise you discuss this on the talk page and try to come to some consensus about it rather than appealing to any supposed auhority. Angela. 06:53, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sydney Press

Angela, FYI there is a "profile" of you in this morning's (Tuesday November 22) IT section of the Sydney Morning Herald --Wm 23:45, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

There's also an online article [25]. And thanks for stopping in Sydney -- it was good to meet you and fellow editors at the meet-up. --Zigger «º» 00:56, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing it out. I'd seen it in The Age but didn't realise it was elsewhere. :) Angela. 06:27, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Pretty cool. The Age is owned by the same media proprietor as the SMH. Say hi to the Melbournites for me! I had a great time... though sorry for peppering you with so many questions :-) - Ta bu shi da yu 08:49, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Angela, I just heard you on Radio National Breakfast too! --Wm 21:49, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I hope it was ok. They dragged me out of bed to do that one live. There might be something I pre-recorded on ABC radio news tomorrow as well. Angela. 11:34, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Very cruel of them. The interviewer seemed to think you had personal awareness of every single page. Some people just don't "get it". Hmphh. After I heard the interview, I removed the "agenda setting" description of the Breakfast program from the article on Radio National. The story summary is now online which includes a RealAudio stream of the recorded interview. AFAIK they tend to leave the audio around for a week or so. I am not sure, it may dissapear after a time. --Wm 12:40, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Nice interview, nice picture: are you standing up? I've passed the reference over to the Signpost if that's OK with you… HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 12:31, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

No, I was sitting down. They chose the worst of the three pictures they had. One of the others is at Wikicities:User:Angela. Angela. 13:51, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Hot diggety-dog! Yes, that one's much nicer…maybe they have a thing about lap-tops Template:;-)—Phil | Talk 14:10, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bringing home old edits

Hi Angela. Is there a way to merge my anonymous contributions into my existing edit contribution history? I've confirmed over two dozen anon edits that were mine by identifying articles I started, beginning with this cluster of edits, followed by these,another cluster, these,this, and this. Cheers! BD2412 T 04:32, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, but there's not a way to do this now. See Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit for some explanation. Angela. 06:27, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
That's quite a backlog - I'm tempted to ask how I might become a developer, just to tackle it! BD2412 T 03:58, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Your advice welcome on Wikisource

Dear Angela, please have a look at wikisource:Wikisource:Scriptorium#Licence Ambiguity and What to do About It. This relates to a long discussuion we have been having about the copyright status of some of the texts we have, and how we might handle it. There is more discussion a couple of entries back in the Scriptorium. I know you have been very busy indeed in recent weeks, but any thought you might have on this from the Foundation standpoint will be most useful. Kind regards Apwoolrich 19:23, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out. I'll have a look when I get back to Europe. Angela. 02:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Historically Black College and University recruitment

Hi, Jmabel and myself have been discussing the merits of actively recruiting students and faculty from Historically Black Colleges and Universities. We have identified Wiley College as an ideal candidate for several reasons: they are the oldest HBCU west of the Mississippi, they have been a pioneer in the usage of computer technology in college education in Texas, and their location allows the outreach to send a representative in person, me. However, I have been putting it off because I realized that it would be odd to walk into Wiley to recruit on behalf of Wikipedia just because Joe and I think its a good idea. I thought it would be best if I consulted Anthere, Jimbo, and you and see what ya'll think; before running off and making an appointment to discuss an outreach program. Please respond as soon as you can. Thanks. -JCarriker 08:36, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

I think any sort of outreach into universties would be useful. There are some related pages at meta:outreach or meta:Category:Promotion that you might find useful. Angela. 02:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)


[edit] The right copyright tag for an uploaded image

Permission-only images are not allowed. They need to be freely usable by other people making use of Wikipedia content. You might be able to use it under fair use, but without knowing what the image is, I can't say whether that is the case. See Wikipedia:Fair use. Angela. 02:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. Owner of image has given permission to post the image under Fair Use.

[edit] Image:Bostonquiz2004pics.jpg

I think this should be deleted since it is UE (unencyclopedic) - The image doesn't seem likely to be useful in an encyclopedia as per the policy here ifd. Cafe Nervosa | talk 23:33, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

I find the attempt to delete parts of the history of the Wikipedia community very saddening. This is not what the fair use/deletion policies were made for. :( Angela. 02:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-Protection

You may or may not be aware, but there is somewhat of a crisis at George W. Bush in terms of a huge volume of vandalism (see the talk page and Jimbo's for more), and a couple users and myself have come together to request a feature called Semi-protection. If you wouldn't mind reading that page, and weighing in, I'd greatly appreciate that. Thanks, Mysekurity 05:49, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] What Wikipedia is not

Angela, I came across your "What Wikipedia is not" section. Really great stuff. --Ezeu 18:22, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Chasers

Hi Angela. I was just watching The Office, and I recalled reading from your wikipedia page that you live in Slough, and so I was just wondering if you've ever been to Chasers, the bar that the characters frequent in the show. Or is it even a real bar? -lethe talk 02:56, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

It's a while since I lived in Slough, but I don't think there was a real place called Chasers. I don't know if it was filmed at a real club of another name, or whether it was just a studio mockup. You could try asking on the Wikipedia:Reference desk. Angela. 05:03, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] please have a look your talk page on Meta

please have a look your talk page on Meta! :)--Vipuser 08:43, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I handed my application to have an accout in wikimedia foundation here, please have a look and check it! Thank you very much!--Vipuser 07:11, 4 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Diablo Wiki is malfunctioning!

I cannot access the Diablo Wikicity, and believe it may be down (it is giving me a lengthy error message). The Wikicities downtime report said that you were the one who needed to know about this. Can you please fix it? 70.243.127.86 15:36, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

It's working now. 70.243.127.86 16:02, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

We had some apache problems temporarily, but it should be fine now. If you have problems again, it's best to go to the IRC channel or to the off-site status page at berlios.de. Angela. 18:49, 4 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Links on your User page

The navigational links at the top of your user page are colored in white on a white background, thus I cannot read what they are (without going to them, of course)! — Wackymacs 11:15, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me about this. I noticed it yesterday and completely forgot to fix it. I think it's ok now, but feel free to edit it if not. Angela 06:47, 7 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Protection of the page of Bulgarian user The Engineer

Hello Angela, I saw your explanation on the talk page of user The Engineer in Bulgarian Wiki. Sorry if it is rude but you've used a weasel term in it: "... number of members ...". How big this number is and of which users you've got a complaint. There is the user Emil in a personal conflict with him, and The Engineer is accusing him in being backed by an administrator and a founder of Bulgarian Wiki - Petko (admin ID Потребител:5ko, "pet" means five in Bulgarian). While I cannot accuse user Petko, I can assure you that user Emil is having conflicts not only with The Engineer (even I had to recall my ambassador).

Please make clear statement based on what you went for removal of adminship of The Engineer, and protection of his pages. The Bulgarian Wiki community is too small to waste any editor, and is among those who lost editors instead of getting more onboard. Bulgarian Wiki also is decreasing its pace. Right now I am not asking to reinstate the admin access but protection without clear, verifyable explanation is not good.

Regards, Goldie (tell me) 13:34, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I am going to post this also on meta. -- Goldie (tell me) 13:34, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

replied at User talk:Bggoldie. Angela. 14:07, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi again, I sure you've been busy and can't remember. However the impact of what have you done is visible. I would reiterate - the page is protected and the protected text is in weasel terms. No more, no less. I am not asking for adminship but for user's page to be unprotected. How much you can read Bulgarian to make up your mind (or you took side based on some translations)?
What I am asking is:
  • Remove the protection on user's personal and talk pages. It cannot do any harm.
  • Write on the page why you've done that. If you can't remember it would be nice if you write it.
I do not know what have happened, and cannot find any clue. Your answer, though polite, leads to a deadend. I would advocate to leave such disputes to the community, and not to act like some sort of a big daddy.
Please accept my sincere apologies if you find any offense in my words. No offense is meant. Regards, Goldie (tell me) 15:41, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, Angela. The user Bggoldie has not raised any questions or concerns about this on bg.wikipedia. The (emergency) desysopped user has done death threats on me (on bg.wikipedia and on irc/bg.wikipedia) and to another user Emil (on an external website, now defunct). Several users/admins have confirmed the concerns in the e-mail. The parallelly conducted vote actually de-admined this user. About the query from Bggoldie, there are several admins/bureaucrat on bg.wiki that can unprotect the pages if the user requests it (although he has publicly stated that he leaves the project), and (re-)sysop any candidate, also if community consensus is reached. To Bggoldie: the (Bggoldie|PrinceYuki)-(Emil) conflicts about article titles on :bg: should not be transferred here. --5ko 08:28, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Now having some trace back to Bulgarian Wiki I can further discuss it there with Petko/5ko. However I can only urge both Angela and Petko to leave some more meaningful information on user's pages (for example links provided here). Though dead threats were clearly seen (and duly logged by user Emil) I doubt Petko was that scared living in France, and The Engineer most probably being in Bulgaria. From the history I can see some Petko's words which can be considered provocative/offensive, and can be one of the reasons for the frustration and subsequent alienation of user The Engineer. IMHO Petko way too late started to calm down (though I might be wrong lacking some information).
Anyways going through the links I just saw an alarming text: nomination for de-admin, one vote, and ... second voter confirming literally "Angela have already taken care of it". The rest of votes (though all positive) came afterwards. So it seems you intervened before people have voted to remove admin rights of the user. "parallelly conducted vote" means without a time machine one cannot have the reason for action, and with the "I can't remember"-justiication currently am seeing this as admin abuse.
I am interested to go through all details of this single incident, as am going to use the findings to make my mind about Wikipedia in general and Bulgarian one in particular. And what I am seeing up to now is going from bad to worse. Regards, Goldie (tell me) 09:03, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
I don't know what you think is admin abuse. Are you saying the person who was desysopped was abusive or I am for desysopping him? Please discuss this with the people involved on the bg Wikipedia since I'm sure they can explain to you the situation if you need to know it. Angela 16:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Under the window I am typing in lies the following text: "...and must be based on verifiable sources". Is there a difference between content and meta-data? Sorry if it is offensive to you but your lack of traceable and verifyable reasons for desysopping might be considered abusive. And I am discussing this with you as you (and not a BG-Wiki admin) have desysopped the user in question. I fully understand you might have had compelling reasons to do so back in July (and would like to know them). However I joined Wiki in September and cannot distinguish whether you abused your power or there was a really sound reason. If you had done so after the vote in Bulgarian editors - I can understand, and would agree. For me personally the problem is in uncertainity - you might have done it in good faith or may not. Should I rely only on your word? Regards, Goldie (tell me) 20:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
I think you'll find the disclaimer is talking about articles, not meta pages. I'm saying you should discuss this on the bg wiki, so I'm not asking you to rely only on my word. Angela.


[edit] Wikijunior

I've set 10 Dec 2005 as the deadline for the Big Cats book, so that we can hopefully get the thing to press before our "December 2005" deadline is up. As far as you know, the Beck Foundation is still on board? Do we have a cheque from them. -- user:zanimum

I'm fairly sure we do have the cheque, but Michael Davis (our treasurer) could confirm that. We're having a Board meeting this week, so I'll bring it up then. Angela 06:47, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Angela... would you mind keeping me up-to-date on the status of Wikijunior. Us over at Wikibooks have been wondering a lot, and some people have asked me questions that I just don't have the answers to. Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. --LV (Dark Mark) 21:53, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
It'll be discussed at the next Board meeting, which should be next week. I'll send an update after that. Angela. 23:59, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. --LV (Dark Mark) 16:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
This meeting never actually happened. I'll let you know next year if it does then. Alternatively, you might want to create a page on meta about the issue which the board could approve or not outside of a planned meeting. Angela. 06:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Counter Vandalism Unit

Wikipedia:Counter Vandalism Unit/Watched I am considering putting this template on articles suffering from heavy vandalism in an effort to adverise that there are people dedicated to fight vandalism. Given the latest CNN interview I think it is necesary to advertise bodies that are deidicated in combating vandalism. I also hope this will discourage vandalism as people will know we are watching.

I want to have the Boards ok for using the wikipedia and wikimedia logo like this (the CVU images as the apear above), primarily as a precation for incidents regarding copyrights of the Wikipedia/Wikimedia logos. --Cool CatTalk|@ 18:49, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I thought Anthere had already said not to use the Wikimedia logo for this, so please check with her. I oppose this sort of template on articles in general - they should only be on the talk page - but that's my opinion as a Wikipedian, not a Board member. Angela. 20:30, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
It is to go on the talk page. ;) --Cool CatTalk|@ 13:30, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm glad about that. :) Angela 16:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

It seems like I've had a little less vandalism after slapping it on the top of my userpage! xaosflux Talk/CVU 05:32, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] cy.wikisource.org

Hi. I'm one of the users who requested that the pages in Welsh from wikisource be moved into a cy.wikisource subdomain. The request has been listed on m:Approved requests for new languages since October 27. Do you have any idea what needs to happen to actually get the subdomain working? Someone said at [26] that you might know the answer. Thanks! 16:40, 8 December 2005 (UTC) (ex User:Marnanel on en:)

You need to ask a developer to do this. Brion is probably the best person to ask. Angela. 20:35, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mail

Mail received and I have notified Thai wikipedians, I hope they can all come as the ones I met sofar are a really enthousiastic bunch. I put a picture with a new message on my userpage btw. I hope it is not overdoing it ;) Waerth 21:51, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

You're supposed to ignore the trolls, not torture them. :) Look forward to seeing you next week. Angela 07:49, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Troubles in No.wp

Could you take a look at no:diskusjon:Tor Bach? Seens like a journalist are interested in the case. I don't know enough of the legal implications. John Erling Blad 21:17, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

It seems like Anthere already knows about it, so she'd be the best person to ask. Since her post is the only part of that page I can read (machine translation from Norwegian to English is fairly useless so I can't make much sense of the rest of it), there's not much I can do to help other than advise that you review the article for anything which can't be verified. Angela. 09:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings

Hello. I've been a wikipedian for almost a year now, and I've surely and slowly begun to meet new users and make new wiki-relationships. You seem like a person I'd like to get to know (I like nice wikipedians), so I just wanted to say hi and...nice to meet you. -MegamanZero 19:17, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Oh..um..okay. I see you are busy...sorry for wastitng your time, then.-MegamanZero 09:34, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
er... hi. If you want to chat to Wikipedians, you might find the Wikipedia IRC channel a better place to do that. Angela 16:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
 :P I didn't say I wanted to chat, I just said I wanted to get to know you. :) -MegamanZero 07:29, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-protection

I've left this message on your Meta page as well (and above), but I wanted to make sure you got this. At Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy, a couple users and myself are attempting to gather consensus about a possible change in editing. So as not to keep the community out of the loop, we've been posting to user talk pages, which seems to have worked. If you can add your thoughts to the talk page, it would be greatly appreciated. We've gone over a few issues, ranging from perception of anti-wiki to time limits, and recycling pagemove code, so you might want to check out #Rehashing to get up to speed. Thanks in advance, Mysekurity(have you seen this?) 21:23, 13 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Esperanza elections

Hi Angela/Archive18: This is a quick note just to let you know that there's an election under way at Esperanza. If you'd like to become a candidate for Administrator General or the Advisory Council, just add your name here by 15 December 2005.

Voting begins at 12:00UTC on 16 December and all Esperanza members are encouraged to join in.

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➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 09:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ar_Wikipedia

Hi Angela ... I liked to discuss this issue with u firstly , i have heard that creation of new pages property will be canceled for unregistered users , actually i was thinking in something similar regarding the Arabic Wikipedia , but not with cration of new pages but in the Editing , actually most unregistered users come just for vandalism or for putting their unbalanced opinions , they expereseed their intolerance and fanatism when they r anonymous and destroy the work of many users who tried to give balanced view of the issue , the policy of restricting IP is not so usefull as most of arabic users has dynamic IP not static and blocking a domain caould prevent users of whole country . also the protection of pages isn,t so practical , i think the person must register before allowing him to edit and then we can punish him for vandalism or discuss him about his opinions and other issues .

so is that possible that we try cancelling the Editing for unregistered users in AR wikipedia ... and i,m sure that would be so good for Ar wikipedia ... Discuss that with jimmy wales and if that is ok i can make Voting in AR wikipedia to make this change .

Best Regards --Unfinishedchaos 21:11, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think that would be appropriate at all. Wikipedia should be openly editable, and it's even more important on a small wiki like ar to keep the barrier to entry as low as possible to encourage new users. See also Wikipedia:Village pump (perennial proposals)#Abolish anonymous users. Angela. 20:35, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi Angela ... Thanks for ur reply ... i understand totally ur viewpoint , and i agree with you that barrier for editing shouldn,t be high , but i was just angry from some unresponsible anons behaviour , recently the proposal for semi-protection seems so practical and very important for me to ban such unresponsible users especially that their vandalism happens in particular issues like religious and political issues so such semi-protection policy would be so important to increase the quality of Wikipedia articles in all languages as i guess .

At last , i have restored again my request for getting access in Ar_Wiktionary to organize this projects as the only sysop there is absent for long time . please take care about this Request . thanks alot again --Unfinishedchaos 18:37, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Please make the request at meta:Requests for permissions so a record of it can be kept and I don't end up duplicating something another steward has already done. Angela. 06:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] News from Esperanza

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[edit] You still online? Simple's being vandalized

...and no other admins seem to be around, and I can't keep up. 24.17.48.241 01:57, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I've blocked some vandals - hopefully all of them for now. Angela. 03:25, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Radio interview

Nice job, Angela! --Cool CatTalk|@ 01:01, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you! Angela. 08:56, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hi angela

I need help because in wikiquote has posted spam in several times. I send this problem in Meta . But they don´t answer back anything. That problem are in others wikis (example).I don't know how I should proced.... And sorry by my english.e.Usuario:unnio,--204.116.85.50 09:11, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Those URLs are in the blacklist, so the spam should stop now. I'll delete the pages on et.wikiquote since it has no admins. If there are any other languages affected, please let me know. Angela. 02:40, 20 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Deleted article

Hi, sorry if I'm going about this the wrong way, but I see that you had a hand in deleted an article I started earlier this year, James Sherriffs. I'm fine with its deletion, but I'm wondering if you could possibly give me the text of that article some way? Bbsrock

I've emailed it to you. Angela. 03:02, 20 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] IP restriction

Hi Angela , sorry for bothering u again , but could u please answer me above in Ar_wikipedia paragraph . and another question : actually when i make ip restriction in ar_wikipedia , they told me that this ip is restricted but actually it is going on in editing and vandalizing . so i think the Restricion doesn,t work , do u have any advice or i have present a bugzilla report --Unfinishedchaos 17:25, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Do you mean an IP was blocked or a username? What exactly happened that made you think it didn't work? Angela. 06:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)


I,m talking about about IP blockin , there is spam in ar.wikipedia from specific IP , and everytime i block it , it returns with ability to edit , I tried all blocking duration 1 day , 2 weeks , 1 month , permanent ... but the Blocking doesn,t work in all cases . Merry Christmas and happy new Year . --Unfinishedchaos 11:21, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

I think it works now after ur help ..thanks alot ..u r the best ..happy new year --Unfinishedchaos 15:44, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Desysoping

Verifying here. Fredrik | tc 23:53, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Movement

What do you think of the movement? Reply here. Thanks. --Kin Khan 03:14, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Christmas

I'm not expecting to be online as much over the next few days so...

User:Francs2000/Christmas

-- Francs2000 09:15, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Merry Christmas to you too. :) Angela. 06:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pro Wrestling Wikicity

Hello Angela, I am SWD316. I was just wondering if you could answer a couple of questions for me about a Wikicity I stumbled upon. Is this you in the edit history of the WikiCity rolling vandalism? Another question I have for you is that this project is pretty much deserted. Deserted based on there hasn't been an edit on there since August, I think.

I was wondering if I could do something to save the project. It would be a shame to loose a whole Wikicity over being abandoned. I have invited the Pro Wrestling Wikiproject over there to see if they would like to take a stab at fixing it.

Since every Main space edit I have on Wikipedia is under the genre of pro wrestling, I want to save the Wikicity the best I can. I know I can't save it alone, especially since there are no users. That brings me to this question, are there any Developers, Bureaucrats, or even admins on that Wikicity? How do I become an admin on an abandoned WikiCity? I know, stupid question, but I really don't want to see this die out. SWD316 talk to me 01:39, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Worrying

I find the speed, efficiency and accuracy of your editing worrying. Don't you have somewhere else to be?

er... thanks. :) Angela. 06:19, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Crimbo!

Have a Proper and Merry Crimbo. Image:Pressie.gif, in fact here is a pressie from the Doctor to you. Ho. Ho. Ho! Image:Unclecrimbo.gif Dr. McCrimbo 22:48, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Merry Christmas to you too. :) Angela. 06:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Above WikiCity

Sorry to bother you again Angela but I responded on your talk page on Meta-Wiki to no response. So I'll respond here. I am currently awaiting your decision about whether or not I can be admin on the Pro Wrestling Wikicity or not. I know you said if I needed the powers you could give me access, so can I? I haven't been able to really start today because I don't know where to start. Although I got a couple of people to join in, it might be easier with admin powers.

PS. I want to wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Years. SWD316 talk to me 23:32, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I replied on your talk page here and made you an admin on that wiki. Angela. 06:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Angela! SWD316 talk to me 17:12, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikispecies logo

Hi Angela, I noticed in passing that you have the old Wikispecies logo on your user page. A local copy is at Image:Wikispecies-logo.jpg. (Not sure why the old version is .png.) Best wishes, BanyanTree 06:08, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

I think the new one ought to be .png too. Angela


[edit] I love you Angela

You are awesome! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.23.214.138 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Dealing With Information That Presents A Security Risk

I feel this template below is an important and integral part of the development of Wikipedia. As an important part of WP, would you please comment on the matter? The ongoing addition of information that may cause serious security risks to the safety of not only Wikipedians, but citizens of the non-digital world as well is an issue that needs to be addressed. PeterZed 22:48, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Template:Security Risk

I don't see a need for it for the same reasons templates like the medical and legal warning ones were deleted. Angela. 21:52, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Capture the flag

I need a favor, and User:Cecropia suggested that I should come to you. I would like to change my username, and to move my "admin" flag to it (Cecropia can add a flag, but not subtract one). I'm going to stop using the old name and retire it. Due to the excessive number of edits that I've made I can't move my them to the new name (nor would I want to), and will start off with a clean slate instead. The new year seems like a good time to make the switch. The new name is user:Will Beback, and you can make the change anytime that is convenient. Thanks for your help, and for all you do. Cheers, -Willmcw 09:50, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, but I can't rename you to that since the username "Will Beback" already exists. See Wikipedia:Changing username. Angela. 21:52, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Sorry for intruding, but that's not what he said. He said he wants to move only his sysop flag to the new account, not all the edit histories. --cesarb 22:50, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I wasn't reading that correctly. Please make a note on your new userpage of what your old name was so people don't get confused about who the new admin is that they've never heard of. Angela. 22:59, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Perfect. Thanks for your help. Happy New Year. -Willmcw 08:25, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikicity Logos

Regarding Wikicities, how do you change the logo for a Wikicity? Having the normal logo for a dedicated Wikicity makes it a bit basic, and I want to make the logo better. Can you tell me how please. Thankyou. P.S I have added here also so I can get an answer quickly.--M Johnson 02:52, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

I've replied on the Simpsons wiki. Hopfully that was the one you were talking about. Angela . 05:31, 31 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Wikipedia Mirror in Georgia & Mediawiki Translation

Hello Angela, i´m contacting you from Georgia (Europe), i´m presenting myself as member of Georgian Internet Alliance. We have some plans around one project about Open Source Software, Community Portal, support and open documentation & etc. Maybe we can help wikipedia/wikimedia to make it´s mirror on our future server in Georgia to help local visitors view wikipedia much faster, effective. We need to know, how is possible to make only ka.wikipedia.org-s mirror for first step and then whole your database.

We are officialy working under translation of KDE, mozilla, opera, & other free software. Currently we are now little busy to work under translations, while we are organizing several projects and portals but i think it will be done with mediawiki translation in a week. Main programming-specific part is already done, but i have not uploaded it on sourceforge yet.

Also we want to help wikpedia editors to communicate - we will create special section and we also plan to add mediawiki engine for tests.

Sorry for my broken english.

Please contact us in the forum: http://www.gia.ge/forum/index.php?board=5.0 (it may be under construction/alpha stage).

or within online chat:

ICQ: 278791298

MSN: giomac@rambler.ru

Yahoo: george_machitidze

e-mail: giomac@gmail.com

Thank You.


George Machitidze, Georgian Internet Alliance, http://www.gia.ge

01:08, 5 December 2005 (GET)

Have you contacted anyone else about this? I'm not sure I really understand what you're asking. Angela 06:47, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
No, i have not. I need to talk to someone, who will help us to organize some specific part of all this (mainly technical suite). Sorry for my broken english.
02:18, 13 December 2005 (GET)
If the issue is a technical one, I'd advise you contact the developers' mailing list. Angela 16:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Ok, thanks, i´ll inform you about it later.
Happy New Year Angela! No news. Can you contact person, who will help me in this?
It might be best to send a reminder to that list, along with some specific points you need help with. The first mail didn't really explain what you needed, and I don't think people are likely to join that forum to ask what you need. If you use IRC, asking on the #mediawiki channel on freenode might be a better way to get a response. See meta:IRC channels for details. Angela 09:46, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Angela, i have contacted them via IRC. It seems, that bulding mirror is impossible due security and flexibility, controlling problems, only cache-servers allowed, but we will contact your team about it at FOSDEM 2006 meeting in Belgium. You may delete this record if you wish it. Huge thanks for help!

[edit] Happy New Year

For last year's words belong to last year's language

And next year's words await another voice.
And to make an end is to make a beginning.
T.S. Eliot, "Little Gidding"
Happy New Year! ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 20:24, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Thank you! Angela . 19:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second-hand hardware

Hi Angela,

Do you happen to know if there's been any discussion relatively recently about using second-hand hardware (for the squid or apache computers)? The only thing I've found about the possibility of that is in Meta:What we use the money for which is over a year old. I also tried asking at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Second-hand_hardware, and there were some people in favour and against, and one person saying that rack space is a limiting factor, but no links to discussions of the proposal.

Thanks, Andjam 00:33, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

PS: Happy new year, and I hope you escape from Mexico soon!

I can't think of any links, but you might want to search the archives of the wikitech-l mailing list, or try asking there. Angela . 19:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help finding the right copyright tag

Hello :-) You were listed as one of the Wikipedians who have volunteered to help members with their image copyright questions. If I am the original author/creator of an image, such as a photograph, what would be the appropriate copyright tag to select when uploading, if I wanted to grant a non-commercial license exclusively to Wikipedia, reserving the right to be attributed as the source and the copyright holder, and prohibiting the image form being altered? All I can find are "for any purpose" licenses that allow "altering," which I don't think I fancy. Thank you. --AladdinSE 10:11, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Hello. Non-commercial licenses and licenses exclusive to Wikipedia are not acceptable since we are aiming to produce a free encyclopedia, so the content needs to reusable by others. Since this is a wiki, you need to expect your work will be altered by others, so you can't specify that it can not be altered. Outside of Wikipedia, the Creative Commons by-nc-nd would be a license that prevents commercial work and derivative versions, but this would be deleted if you tried to use such a license on Wikipedia. If you change your mind and want the image to be used on Wikipedia, the most commonly chosen license would be GFDL ({{GFDL-self}}) or GFDL dual-licensed with a Creative Commons license such as by-sa ({{Cc-by-sa-2.5}}). Angela . 19:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I always expected my prose to be altered by others on Wikipedia, but I was rather unsure of things like photographs. I was worried about a vague notion of "malicious changes" to my photographs which might reflect badly on me as the creator or on the subjects of the photos. I thought that as long as Wikipedia didn't have to pay for the content uploaded by its editors, and Internet readers didn't have to pay to use it as a reference, that this satisfied the free content principle. It bothered me that commercial interests would be able to take my photographs off of Wikipedia and utilize them for profit. But if it must be so, it must. I expect I'll be using GFDL-self on Wikipedia. Thank you for your help. --AladdinSE 23:29, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Consulting

Hi I have been asked/informed about a short term consulting position at the International Rice Research Institute in the Phillipines, they are looking for people with wiki experience and an understanding of molecular biology and international agriculture to help them with their wikis. I'm not sure I'd quite fit the bill, and have asked for more information, I was wondering if you knew of anyone that might be "qualified" that I could also foward the information to. --nixie 15:26, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I think Anthere would be qualified for this. You might also want to ask on either the village pump or the wikien-l mailing list to see if anyone is interested in this. Angela. 15:40, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spread your wings!

I hereby award you these wings for your tireless contribution to the wiki-comunity to the point of traveling over seas for wiki-community as well as spending time on inteviews etc (too many things to simply list). Generally people forget to say when a job is well done. Obviously I don't. ^-^' --Cool CatTalk|@ 17:32, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! :) Angela. 19:32, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
I second this.

P.S. - I still think it is nice to meet you. -MegamanZero|Talk 09:36, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy New Year

Regards, Arno 09:32, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

For intervening on my behalf. That anon user whose sockpuppets include User:Vesa and User:Projects, and who knows what else, keeps adding his point-of-view (and poorly written) stuff to the George Reeves page, and who knows what else. He shows signs of being a lunatic, to put it technically. :) Wahkeenah 18:58, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey Angie!

Hey Angie whats up long time no talk!

Anyways I just wanted to let you know, Im inviolved in the elections here as a candidate.

Well I hope to hear a line from you soon. Thanks! , and God bless you!

Your friend always, Antonio Fashion Do Mertin

[edit] HHG Logo - Questions

Is it O.K. for the Helping Hand Group to use their current logo? I beleive permission is required, so I am asking you.

Is it alright for the HHG to use the logo?

The Neokid 13:56, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

We're still working on a policy for Uses of logo derivatives. It would be useful if you could link this logo from this page so we can consider it when developing the policy. Angela 04:19, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikistats

I hope you are doing well. I would fix them if I could, but there are some errors on the statistics page that have been there for some time - [27]. Under "Wikipedia Statistics All languages", the December 10th line appears to be incorrect. It states that we have 727 million words and 6.1 GB, etc. Two lines below it, however, we see that we had 856 million words and 7.1 GB in November. I've never seen this kind of reversal - if this is correct, we somehow managed to lose about 129 million words in the course of a month or so. Model Citizen 19:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I've no idea what would cause that. The best person to ask is Erik Zachte since he's the one who makes the scripts to create those stats. Angela. 20:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming conventions for television shows (again)

I saw that you were active in the first vote for naming conventions of television program(mes). Well it has raised it's ugly head again and I would appreciate any comments you have to make about my new proposal for naming television shows. Please leave comments here. Thanks! --Reflex Reaction (talk)• 21:42, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inactive BCrats

Would you consider demoting some of the long-inactive bureaucrats, like user:Optim back to sysop. I would be more likely to support new BCrats if they replaced inactive ones. 1/2 of BCrats are not even active anymore. This is an important wikipedia task, if you can no longer do it or are no longer willing, then someone else should get the job. I don't want a bunch of inactive BCrat accounts floating around waiting to be comprimised. I think that demoting seems like a reasonable think to do in this case. Only Stewards like you can do this though. Thank.

BTW. Your page has a really pretty picture now! Much better than the old one.Voice of AllT|@|ESP 04:24, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I would prefer if inactive bureaucrats (and admins) had their access removed, but that isn't my decision to make. There'd have to be community consensus before you could ask a steward to change this (and you should ask one not involved with the English Wikipedia since they're not meant to deadmin people on their own wiki except at the request of that user). There isn't any process for de-bureaucratship on this wiki, so it might not be easy to get this to happen. Thanks for the compliment on the photo. Angela. 13:09, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Currently I am opposing the new BCrat nominee due to this issue. I want to see something done about all of these inactive BCrats before just making new ones. We have have enough active Bcrats to get by and with Francs2000 promoted, there is little need for more BCrats. I would not mind replacing the inactive 1/2 though.Voice of AllT|@|ESP 16:05, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
I, too, am of the opinion that we have enough Bureaucrats, and recently tweaked the list at Wikipedia:Bureaucrats to reflect the actual bureaucratic activity of those with The Power, such as it is (moving a couple to "inactive"). As Bureaucrats have a very limited area of responsibilty, it seems only logical that we should take a "You don't use it, you loose it" attitude similar to the standards set up for Stewards. Bureaucratship has become, IMO, more of a status symbol than an actual tool, which is borne out by the fact that ten of our twenty-two Bureaucrats are inactive (with at least an additional two [Secretlondon and Ilyanep, specifically; see Wikipedia_talk:Bureaucrats] that should be considered inactive, as well). --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 18:24, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Lunixbreak, Nichalps, Cecropia, Francs2000 are the main Bcrats now. 1/2 where listed as inactive, but really only 1/5 to 1/4, or 20 to 25% are trurely (at least somewhat regularly) active. Around 80% are just people with a "high title". How could we not already have a policy for this? I am already seeing what I can do about it, just like when Myskerity and I kept pushing semi-protection. I hope you (Angela), will help out with this effort, as you have much sway.Voice of AllT|@|ESP 18:28, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Just wanted to note that I'm still here and I call the next promotion ;) I just never get there when a nomination has ended :\ —Ilyanep (Talk) 19:27, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps this discussion should move to Wikipedia talk:Bureaucrats? Angela. 23:37, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] De-sysoping

Hi Angela, how's things?

I've been approached by an administrator who is leaving the project, asking how he can get de-sysoped. What is the process of getting oneself de-sysoped? I shan't give his details here in case others don't know of his intention to leave. Cheers. -- Francs2000 23:12, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I think he's only trying to keep it under his hat for now so that his talk page doesn't get flooded with "please don't go" messages. -- Francs2000 23:44, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interlangs on user pages (revisited)

I seem to recall you once told me you didn't like to use interlanguage links on your user pages (some of them, anyway). You should know, therefore, that there's a bot (on a few different wikis) that's adding interlanguage links to user pages. For example, here's its edit of your Romanian user page. I've asked the owner of this bot to stop changing user pages. - dcljr (talk) 01:18, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me. I tend to use interlanguage links on my user pages a lot more now than I did when I said that, since it's useful for navigation around related languages, which outweighs the risk of more cross-wiki vandalism of my user page. So, if someone thinks it useful to link my Romanian page, I won't revert it. It might be more of a problem on en, though I upset a lot fewer vandals than I used to, so it's not much of an issue. Angela. 03:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changing username

Hello Angela,

I got your username from the Bureaucrats page. Anyway, I need my username changed, for privacy reasons, from User:Anthonyiamurri to User:un sogno modesto, if you wouldn't mind. Thank you, and sorry for the inconvenience!

Anthonyiamurri 05:43, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanx for the name change

Just so you know ;) However, editcount returns no edits for my new user. So it's like I had started anew :( Can you do something about it? I had more than 600 edits, so...

--Doppelgangland 15:20, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

  • I tried it again today and it works fine. Excuse my impatience. Cheers. --Doppelgangland 08:30, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza

Hi Angela! I've always been in awe of you here and this is just a message to enquire as to why you decided to leave Esperanza. You're a very influential person here on-wiki (as you know ;)) and I wondered how we could improve as to get your support for us back. Thanks a bunch! --Celestianpower háblame 20:13, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Oh no, no, no and no. Talk in IRC ;). --Celestianpower háblame 20:53, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
As I said on IRC, absolutely not! I was doing housekeeping, removing people who hadn't used the channel and/or thier access in more than 12 weeks (three months) and pulled yours. I have restored it personally, and am happy to see you've rejoined us. (Crossposting to User talk:Celestianpower.) Essjay Talk • Contact 21:23, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
<breathes sigh of relief> I've got the membership list of EA on my watchlist so I can help welcome new members. I saw you'd gone, rushed over here and saw that others were at work and then saw that you were back. I'm very pleased! Esperanza needs all its members, but especially the ones who are active on the 'pedia, respected and just plain nice. So I'm glad you're staying with us! This message is a bit of a waste of server space, but there we go! Stay happy! ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 21:38, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks all. I thought I wasn't active enough to stay on the list, but I've been convinced that I should stay anyway. :) Angela. 21:49, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pets wikicity

Thanks for your help on my wiki, but how do i get more people interested in the pets wikicity? No one seems to want to help expand.--CHIMES 20:44, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll reply on that wiki. Angela. 20:49, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Sandra Gould

Someone keeps changing Gould's year of birth from 1916 to 1926. It is ridiculous. Can you protect the page??

Thanks!! 67.101.192.188 22:24, 17 January 2006 (UTC) (email address: rms125a@hotmail.com)

It has only happened a couple of times, so I think it is too soon to protect the page. Perhaps if you cite a source for this change, there would be no need for it to be reverted. Angela. 22:30, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Permision to use Wikipedia Logo

Hello Angela,

Let me introduce myself. I am Manjithkaini a bureaucrat with Malayalam Wikipedia and a well-wisher of Wikimedia Foundation. My message comes here with a request.

Though the Malayalam edition of Wikipedia runs behind other wikis in number of articles, the participation and user creation is in its boom. The main reason for the lack of articles is the Malayalam language didn’t have much Unicode Fonts. We, a group of Malayalis residing in various countries like USA, Japan etc have made this possible. Now we have fonts and Unicode supported transliteration softwares - important tools for wiki editing in Malayalam.

With these tools we are planning a competition in Kerala, the homeland of Malayalam language, to promote Wikipedia participation. We would like to represent ourselves as Malayalam Wikimedia Community and conduct the competition to popularize Wikis among school, college students and among elders in our homeland.

As you know we will need a number of posters and other publicity materials for this. Hence the need of a Banner and Emblem to get identified. We will be grateful if the Wikimedia Foundation grant us permission to use the banner Malayalam Wikimedia Community and also to use the Wikipedia emblem through out our campaigns.

Manjithkaini 05:34, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Thank you Angela for the quick response. But we are planning to launch the campaign atleast by the end of January. Any possiblity of getting some good news before that?

--Manjithkaini 15:55, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

I raised this on our internal mailing list and Delphine proposing that the Board grant the use of logo etc pending a document from the people organizing this event with a description of the "campaign" and contests, and a list of the people calling themselves "Wikimedia Community". There were no objections from the Board on this suggestion. Angela. 12:18, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Username change

My old usernames were User:Lehla and User:Special Editor, can you merge those accounts into this one? --User:Carie 20:42, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but it's not possible for me to merge accounts. I can only rename an account into something that doesn't already exist. There is a page for Changing attribution for an edit, but that service is currently disabled. Angela. 22:10, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikihalo

 This user has been awarded a Wikihalo by the Wikipedia community for relection to the Board of Trustees and co-foundation of Wikicities, as well as a large number of excellent contributions.


Thank you! Angela. 11:52, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move of a good page form en: to simple: ?

Hello Angela, I stumbled upon the articvle in the english wikipedia about spiders en:Spider, and I have tried to get that to simple:Spider, before simplifying the good article. Now I was told that the prover way of moving pages was using export/import (which I cannot do, since I lack the privileges). Could you therefore please move en:Spider and en:Spider web to simple (I don't believe we need all those sinlge spider entries). Please replace thwe current content of Spider: in simple, as all it is is an attempt of mine to move the en: page.

Thank you Eptalon 18:29, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bashkir bureraucrate

Hi, Angela! Something changed in Wikipedia, since I requested for adminship last time. ba:User:Рөстәм Нурыев is requesting for bureaucrate status. I'm, an only admin of Bashkir wiki, but I'd only systop rights. Röstäm understand only Russian and Bashkir languages, so he can't request and he asked me to do it. Thanks, --Untifler 18:42, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

As for his experience, it's not too soon, because he's the first Bashkir speaking wikipedian. Another part of community isn't currently active. Adminship needs him to translate wikipedian interface to Bashkir to attract more community later. Be sure that noone wikipedianwill be oppose! ----Untifler 17:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)Untifler 16:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Ok. Рөстәм Нурыев is now a bureaucrat. Angela. 01:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Greater thanks! (Рәхмәт in Bashkir) --Untifler 18:57, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Angela. I thank for the honour, rendered to me, to be the manager and bureaucrat in the Bashkir section. Now I am engaged in translation of the system messages on the Bashkir language. I write clauses about Bashkortostan. I poorly know the English language. This translation with Russian on English has made the computer. I ask to forgive, if is written with mistakes. ba:User:Рөстәм Нурыев --83.174.215.243 18:01, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki philosphy and approach

Angela - it was hearing you on Radio 4 months ago that first got me involved in Wikipedia and since then I have encouraged many others to become contributors, my grown up children included. I work as User:Velela but several of us , using our own user names, use the same PC for editing and sometimes jointly edit or contribute. We hope that this helps to bring some knowledge and experience from some older minds into Wikipedia - certainly we can remeber facts long forgotten by some. This approach has come up against an admin view that because several of us use the same IP address that we are de facto sock puppets and , over the last couple of days my access has been blocked. I guess I can live with that although the reasoning is flawed and seems to be a degree of angst in one admin User:Snottygobble because I dared to improve one of his articles (Geoffrey Bolton). The use of blocking against vandalism seems an exemplary policy but to use it to suppress change and improvement is more reminsicent of more totalitarian regimes. I would welcome your views.

I trust David Gerard's judgement in this. Anyway, the block is only 48 hours, so I suggest you wait until it is over and then try to discuss the article on the talk page instead of continuing to revert. Angela. 01:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] OTRS

I recently read a mailing list post by ~notafish and learned that there is a backlog in the OTRS system. I would be happy to help categorize and respond to the incoming mail. Among those contacts listed on the meta for OTRS, you're the one I know best, so I thought I'd ask here whether you'd like to have my help.

The Uninvited Co., Inc. 21:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

That would be great. I've sent you an email about this. Angela. 01:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Section keys

Hi Angela, I've had a go at your script request. [28] Lupin|talk|popups 23:55, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

It works. Thank you! Angela. 01:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spam Vandalism

Hi Angela,

would you please help me to block spam vandalism. I think, there is someone who uses pseudo-IPs, and attacks only on the ko Wiktionary and Books among ko projects. --아흔(A-heun) 17:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

replied at wikt:ko:User talk:아흔. Angela. 20:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
  1. this on wikt. is from IP 193.252.208.28
  2. this on books is from IP 200.75.75.111
    the two have same pagename and at the same time, but another IPs.
  3. this on books is from IP 204.15.149.58, a same type.
    The spamer uses always such page name like currunt events, community portal, help etc. and not massive attack but at regular intervals. -- 아흔(A-heun)


[edit] Thanks!

Hi. Thanks for your reply to my question. Are you an admin? If so, please could you undelete it for me, and I can ensure that I add license info. Many thanks, --Rebroad 20:34, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but images are not undeletable and Wikipedia's mirrors don't appear to have a copy as already explained at User talk:Rebroad#That South Pole Image link was dead. Angela. 20:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry to mess up your page!

Angela,

An abusive admin has blocked my pal on IP address 24.147.103.146. The admin is named Gamaliel. This admin has been reported in the past by 24.147.103.146 for copyright violation and made to revert. He must be holding a grudge. It may also be due to his POV on the Kennedys and his past invlovement in edit wars. The reason given for the block was an old RFC on Ted Kennedy. My pal added appropiate links to other Kennedy pages not mentioned in the RFC. The admin is pro Kennnedy so he blocked my pal. In any case, this is an abuse of his priv and I ask your help in bringing this to light. Thank you193.120.103.205 06:08, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Considering you're already supposed to be banned following this Arbitration case, I don't think you can complain when someone reblocks you. This is not a case of admin abuse. Angela. 06:44, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] been so long since I've used Wiki - I can't really remember how it's done

Hello, Have you updated with the 20week scan pic? Thought it would be quicker to ask than to spend hours searching! Reply To Richard's e-mail, since I never really check Wiki page at the mo. Thanks Helen. 11:47, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I've replied on your talk page. I don't remember Richard's address. Angela. 12:12, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fooling yourself, but not many readers

Wikipedia's "credibility crisis" is not being helped by failing to recognize when articles are blatantly slanted by politics. This entry on the Swift Boat Vets is egregiously bad. That will not be noticed by anyone of the Democratic persuasion, but the article fairly screams "a Democratic partisan wrote this" to anyone who is not.

I do not wish to debate this, I seek only to warn you that half of the people coming to Wikipedia will begin to dismiss the site as having been ruined by politics (as so many other 'reference' sites have) if this sort of thing continues.

Sofoxit. Adding sarcastic comments to the article won't improve it. Angela. 12:49, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Delete The History off this Page

Can you delete this page or at least the History, from the comments made by Chief 100, for he is clearly making a mockery of the 9/11 pilot [29]

I've removed the 2 problematic revisions. The history isn't spidered by Google, so it's unlikely anyone would notice this sort of thing anyway. Angela. 23:27, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] An Esperanzial note

As I remember, the last spam that was handed out was on the 20th of December last year, so I think it's time for another update. First and foremost, the new Advisory Council and Administrator General have been elected. They consist of myself as Admin General and FireFox, Titoxd, Flcelloguy and Karmafist as the Advisory Council. We as a group met formally for the first time on the 31st of Decembe. The minutes of this meeting can be found at WP:ESP/ACM. The next one is planned for tonight (Sunday 29 January) at 20:30 UTC and the agenda can be found at WP:ESP/ACM2.

In other news, Karmafist has set up a discussion about a new personal attack policy, which it can be found here. Other new pages include an introductory page on what to do when you sign up, So you've joined Esperanza... and a welcome template: {{EA-welcome}} (courtesy of Bratsche). Some of our old hands may like to make sure they do everything on the list as well ;) Additionally, the userpage award program proposal has become official is operational: see Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award to nominate a userpage or volunteer as a judge. Also see the proposed programs page for many new proposals and old ones that need more discussion ;)

Other than that, I hope you all had a lovely Christmas and wish you an Esperanzially good new WikiYear :D Thank you! --Celestianpower háblame 16:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Wikimedia Australia

As someone who is on the steering committee of the Wikimedia Australia, thank you for helping us to make that happen and putting yourself down for support.

Regards, --EuropracBHIT 03:33, 30 January 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Nick changes

Mind clearing down this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username#Requests_to_usurp_an_existing_account_with_no_edits it has been adding up for a month. Ems2 14:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't believe accounts should be taken over in this way. Many users may have made an account here because they edit under that name in another language and want to make sure they maintain the same name on all wikis so they can keep that name when we get single login. No edits do not necessary mean the account is not in use. For example, readers may have accounts so they can use their Preferences to set a different skin. Also, the user might have only deleted edits, which won't show up in Contributions but will do elsewhere, and taking their account would mean you would be blamed for those past edits and activity in the Logs. Angela. 01:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

The way robchurch told me it works is, the account I want gets renamed, then my account gets renamed to I want. So all logs are left inatact. Ems2 05:34, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

No, renaming a user does not correctly fix the logs. If User:Ems had been blocked, and it was renamed User:Whatever so that you could move to User:Ems, the block log would still show that User:Ems, not User:Whatever, had been blocked. But that's not my main objection. My objection is that someone made that account for a reason, and it wouldn't be right to steal it from them just because they have no undeleted edits on this language version of Wikipedia, especially not so soon before plans to implement single login. Angela. 07:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
I did not make the implication that the logs would be fixed entirely, nor did I state that it was within policy; I merely provided the information that bureaucrats had the technical ability to make this change. Ta, Rob Church (talk) 15:48, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, may I ask in what other languages is there a user using the nick ems that has also registered it on en.wikipedia? Ems2 16:15, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't know. This is one of the problems - bureaucrats have no way of knowing whether this account is in use elsewhere. Angela. 23:22, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

The single login proposal must provide a solution if the same nick is used in differernt languages, and all do. It is clear this use isn't using it on en.wikipedia. The user would of only registered it to hold it because there was no single login, but once one of the proposals have been accepted this will be obsolute. Ems2 16:54, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

It will provide a solution, but probably not one that everyone is happy with since it will lead to people losing their name. Is there not some other name you can choose that doesn't involve needing to steal another account? Angela. 23:22, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
[30] Doesn't have that problem. If that is the accepted one, his registeration on en.wikipedia is taking up valuable real estate, and should be sold off. I have asked on the users talk page if he is using the account. Ems2 20:07, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
There are many other bureaucrats you could talk to. I don't think there's much point trying to pursuade me that you should be allowed to steal another person's name when we have no policy for dropping inactive names. Angela. 06:02, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

I was adviced aganist that, as they all are loyal to you. Would it be possible to email the address it was registered aganist? Ems2 13:52, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you can use Special:Emailuser/Ems to email this user. Perhaps starting a discussion at Wikipedia talk:changing username on whether there should be a policy regarding dropping inactive names would be useful. Angela. 14:02, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

You are invited to take part in Wikipedia_talk:Changing username#Dropping inactive user names. Ems2 17:14, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Some People dont like my name

Some people dontlike my name and have asked me to change it

I like it but if it must be change then change it to SuperDeng just tell me in advanced and give me the exact time when the name change will happen

Another thing on the page that list your name as one of the active bureaucrats it also sais promotions

So promote me :D

Anyway please tell me if and before you change my name so that i dont think it is my computer buging when i have problems logging in

Deng 01-02-06 02.05 CET

[edit] Where to go to propose a new wiki idea

Hello. If one has an idea for a new wiki project (like Wikibooks, Wikispecies, etc.), where does one go on Meta to propose it? --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 03:32, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

If it is something that you think fits Wikimedia's mission, see meta:Proposals for new projects. Angela. 05:16, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 05:40, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seeking guidance

I am seeking your guidance and advice on a particular issue. Mahuri page on wikipedia was initiated by me, and I have contributed to the page from time to time. As per policy of the wikipedia anyone can use the contents of wikipedia, but I understand that use of such contents should indicate the source, that is, the wikipedia. The contents of the page Mahuri have been used in the site mahurivaisya without giving any reference to wikipedia - though I am glad that they have used our contents. In this case, a problem may arise at a future date if that website takes a stand that the contents of page Mahuri on wikipedia have been copied from that site and thus violates copyrights. In an alternative scenario, a user here may tag our Mahuri page with copyright violation under the impression that our contents have been copied from that site, reference to which was given by me long back as an external link when that site was not active and having only a welcome page. Although I am not aware of any such issue, which wikipedians may have encountered in the past, I believe that such a situation may have arisen earlier too. I seek your advice and guidance to deal with this issue, which you are requested to kindly post on my talk page please. I also utilize this opportunity to say Hello to you. Thanks. --Bhadani 13:18, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I am removing the link. --Bhadani 14:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:DavidCary

Ah, how embarrassing. I've forgotten my wikipedia password. Unfortunately, the "e-mail new password" thingy doesn't seem to work. (I don't remember if I ever entered my email address in ... or perhaps I did but mis-typed it).

I suppose I could just make up a new user account ... but that seems so wasteful.

Are you one of the people that Help:Logging_in#What_if_I_forget_the_password? suggests might, possibly, be able to help me?

Or is there someone else that I should ask?

-- DavidCary http://david.carybros.com/

p.s.: I was using the same password for Wikibooks:User:DavidCary -- would you reset that one as well? --70.189.75.148 17:47, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure you had a password? Accounts with blank passwords have recently been disabled for security reasons. You don't have an email set in your English Wikipedia account. I don't have any server access, so there's nothing I can do to help. You'd need to find someone with at least shell access from the list of developers but only if you are able to prove that user account really does belong to you. Angela. 22:23, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] user:Joeyramoney

Do you think that this user deserved to be blocked for a week? See edit history [31]. I am not so sure about this block. See this. What do you think? And five admins desysopped in one day...how have you stayed out of this issue so well...I see nothing on your talk page?Voice of AllT|@|ESP 16:35, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

He was obviously trolling. Of course he should be blocked. I'm amazed anyone can find anything to argue about in this. Angela. 21:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Well fine, if that is the standard. But as a consequence I am going to have to come down much harder on people. I am applying a two srikes policy from now on, one stike for some cases.Voice of AllT|@|ESP 22:41, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ZyXoas

Aloha!! Remember me...? I stumbled upon the remarkably bad Sesotho Wikipedia - you unlearn something new everyday!! Are you the Angela involved in "editing" some of the pages? How many Angela's are there?! Oh, I just realised it's the Sesotho version of your page! 8-D. I honestly wish I could do something about it, but it's absolutely braindead. Are the other African Language Wikiped's this bad? Am I honestly the only person to have previously contributed to Wikipedia who's competent in Sesotho? A pessimist like me feels that this "Wikipedia in every language" experiment is bound for failiure...

Sorry for "vandalising" one of the pages (Mmino), but I won't remove the comment. It pretty much sums up what I feel about the grossly malinformed articles about Africans on Wikiped'. -ZyXoas/Tebello Thejane (sorry, I've been away for so long that I forgot my password...) 198.54.202.234 13:13, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is me that has edited there. Most of the African Language Wikipedias are not yet active, so there will be problems on them. If you can write in Sesotho, perhaps you could help to clear up the problems you see there. Rather than making comments on the articles, is there something you could do to fix them? It's easy to be pessimistic at this early stage, but there's no reason to think a real community could not form there at some stage and create a useful resource. It will simply take longer than one in a language used by more people who are online. Angela. 06:33, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Optim: dormant bureaucrat

User:Cecropia has suggested me at Wikipedia talk:Bureaucrats to leave a message to you about User:Optim, a dormant bureaucrat, inactive at Wikipedia since 7 Mar 2004. If there is still no answer from him after asking again, how about revoking his bureaucrat's and administrator's privileges? Even though I am not an administrator here, my experience as an administrator at Chinese Wikipedia suggests that allowing dormant bureaucrats and administrators may eventually result in security being breached if someone steals their passwords to ruin Wiki sites. This is why I am concerned. Thank you.--Jusjih 08:42, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Angela, could you pull Optim's admin/bureaucrat status and I'll move him to "former bureaucrats"? I don't think we need process--he's been gone two years. If he resurfaces we can deal with that then. Thanks. :) BTW, you are not listed as an "inactive bureaucrat," I redid the Bcrat page and you are listed as active on rename, just as I'm listed as active on RfA. Best, Cecropia 14:51, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I've asked Datrio to look into it since stewards aren't supposed to act on their own wiki in cases like this. Angela. 11:38, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Advice requested

Hi. I wonder if you could give some advice - there is a pretty deep-seated disagreement over whether the page List of interesting or unusual place names should sit in the article namespace or the Wikipedia namespace. The article has been up for deletion from the article namespace once, and no consensus was reached (in my opinion), but it was moved to the Wikipedia namespace anyway. The article was then listed for Deletion Review, again, the result of the discussion was inconclusive. It was then listed at AfD a second time, but the AfD entry has been closed, even though nothing has changed in terms of the balance of opinion. Basically the current situation is one of instability & confusion, with the article potentially flip-flopping between namespaces. I'm lookng for guidance on what options there are to bring a more harmonious conclusion to the issue. Thanks in advance SP-KP 19:03, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another Esperanzial note...

Hi again Esperanzians! Well, since our last frolic in the realms of news, the Advisory Council has met twice more (see WP:ESP/ACM2 and WP:ESP/ACM3). As a result, the charter has been ammended twice (see here for details) and all of the shortcuts have been standardised (see the summary for more details). Also of note is the Valentines ball that will take place in the Esperanza IRC channel on the 14th of February (tomorrow). It will start at 6pm UTC and go on until everyone's had enough! I hope to see you all there! Also, the spamlist has been dissolved - all Esperanzians will now recieve this update "newsletter".

The other major notice I need to tell you about is the upcoming Esperanza Advisory Council Elections. These will take place from 12:00 UTC on February 20th to 11:59 UTC on February 27th. The official handing-over will take place the following day. Candidates are able to volunteer any time before the 20th, so long as they are already listed on the members list. Anyone currently listed on the memberlist can vote. In a change since last time, if you have already been a member of the leadership, you may run again. Due to the neutrality precident, I will not vote for anyone.

Yours, as ever, Esperanzially,
--Celestianpower háblame 09:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Username Change

Hi. I saw the above request from User:Carie, and I'd like to rename my account to one that does not exist yet. Could you do this? I'd like to be User:Nimocks instead of User:Joshyoua. Thanks. Joshyoua 23:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Danke! Nimocks 23:42, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
I'd like an request filled as well. May I request a change to User:K'...? The backlog is terribly saturated at the momment. -ZeroTalk 08:43, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Sorry but K' is already taken. Angela. 13:04, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
I see. I'll settle for Megaman Zero then. -ZeroTalk 15:56, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Many thanks. -ZeroTalk 21:53, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
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