Talk:Andriy Shevchenko
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[edit] Goals and appearances
Shevchenko scored 173 goals in 296 appearance for milan, please ceize editing this. The football statistics database only takes into account league games. Shevchenko is the second all time leading goal scorer of AC Milan with 173 goals in 296 appearances. The sources to this information are extensive. Xioyux 04:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well whatever your source is, its wrong..how bout you calculate it by hand instead (see AC Milan Official Website for data)? ;)
- 99/00 32ga 24gl
- 00/01 32ga 24gl
- 01/02 29ga 14gl
- 02/03 24ga 5gl
- 03/04 32ga 24gl
- 04/05 29ga 17gl
- 05/06 27ga 19gl
- Here's how I knew right away that your data was wrong...a Serie A season is 38 games, meaning that he must have played (every game) in Serie A for more than 7 seasons, which is obviously not the case, considering his injuries and non-starts during his AC Milan career. Cheers, mate. --Palffy 16:20, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Shevchenko also played numerous games in european competitions and the Italian cup for AC milan. The statistics you are using contain just the information for the goals in the Italian Series A league, not any other competitions. Shevchenko scored 24 goals in his first Series A season and was the leading goalscorer (this was widely documented) however, he also scored numerous goals in the Italian Cup as well as The European Competition.
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- Just take a look at the wikipedia article on AC Milan, Shevchenko is the 2nd leading goalscorer with 173 goals.
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- Here are just a few sources.
- http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/06/01/shevchenko.shtml
- http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2006-06/01/content_605608_2.htm
- http://www.999today.com/sports/news/story/3274.html
- http://www.4thegame.com/club/chelsea-fc/player-profile/6442/andriyshevchenko.html
- http://www.cfcnet.co.uk/content/results_detail.asp?Type=News&ID=5978
- http://www.sfxsports.co.uk/news_company.asp?Action=Detail&NewsID=431
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- Shevchenko has scored 173 goals in 296 appearances for AC Milan over the span of 7 years, the statistics of a player need to include ALL goals for the club, not just Series A goals. It is widely documented that Shevchenko has scored 173 goals for AC Milan. Xioyux 17:33, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I'm not doubting you that he has scored 173 goals in 296 appearance for AC Milan in ALL COMPETITIONS. However, it is footballer infobox template which is standard thoughout Wikipedia, as stated under the goals scored itself "* Professional club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only and correct as of DATE." --Palffy 17:47, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I see. I didn't know this. I apologise. Why would wikipedia not document ALL goals scored by the player, though? Why only document league goals? Should there not be some information as to european competition goals? Xioyux 17:49, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Well, first of all, its hard to see which competitions should be taken into account with regards to total goals--ie, is the Copa Libertadores worth mentioning? What about the African-continent club competitions? Also, cup matches can be played against much weaker opponents, allowing for high scorelines and thus increased scoring. I personally agree that this is the best way to standardize everything. However, if you want to make a note of his complete scoring record somewhere in the article (mentioning that it includes cup and European matches), then you're certainly welcome to do so.. --Palffy 18:04, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Ok, thanks for the information and help. Xioyux 18:45, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] unfounded allegations?
Where is the solid proof of what roman has offered. If it is just a rumor it should not be on the page or clearly stated as so.
[edit] Transfer Speculation
He's announced he wants to leave AC milan today, so I'm putting it up... Tempted to put a current event tag on it but doesn't really need it.
[edit] Information Request
Is he Roman Catholic because I've seen picture of his sons'christining in a Roman Catholic church or is it just his wife that is Roman Catholic
His wife is just roman catholic not him
[edit] ideology
I heard this on a TV Sports Channel: "Although he has millions of dollars now, he hasn't refused to his ideology of communism".
Anyone know if that's true? has he done some reference to it?
i doubt it.
[edit] milan's fan reactions
Do the Milan fans still like Sheva? i know that the B. Munich fans booed Ballack when he got his medal for Munich finishing first in the Bundesliga, so I wondered if the Milan fans dont like Sheva for leaving them. I have a feeling they dont, since Ballack wasnt as big of a hero to the Munich fans like Sheva was to the Milan fans. Can anyone clarifie?
[edit] NEW SON????
I heard from a friend that his wife gave birth to an england born son. Perhaps the chelski fans would like to enlighten more on this issue.
