User talk:Ancient Land of Bosoni
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[edit] Hello
Hi. Are you the same person as User:Bosoni? I think you are the same person because their user page was exactly the same as yours. Anyway, welcome back to Wikipedia User:Bosoni. - [rts_freak] | 5p34k 2 /\/\3 12:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Political and racist remarks
Please clean your page of political and racist statements that are anti-Serb and anti-Croat. Any nationalist sentiment on Wikipedia will not be tolerated and you WILL be blocked if you don't comply with the current rules and regulations. Thank you, --Svetislav Jovanović 00:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- Could you please indicate which rules and regulations prevent users from expressing nationalist sentiment on their user pages? —Psychonaut 17:25, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Deleted page "Gojko Janković"
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[edit] Deleted page "Ranko Ćesić"
A page you created, or image you uploaded, Ranko Ćesić, has been deleted in accordance with our deletion policy. In particular, it meets the one or more criteria for speedy deletion; the relevant criterion is:
- Unremarkable people, groups, companies and web content. An article about a real person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content that does not assert the importance or significance of its subject.
Wikipedia has certain standards for inclusion that all articles must meet. Certain types of article must establish the notability of their subject by asserting its importance or significance. Additionally, since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, content inappropriate for an encyclopedia, or content that would be more suited to somewhere else (such as a directory or social networking website) is not acceptable. See What Wikipedia is not for the relevant policy.
You are welcome to contribute content which complies with our content policies and any applicable notability guidelines. However, please do not simply re-create the page with the same content; it will be deleted again and may be protected from re-creation. You may also wish to read our introduction to editing and guide to writing your first article. If you have any questions, please contact an administrator for assistance. Thank you – Gurch 04:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] List of Serb war criminals
You removed the AfD tag from List of Serb war criminals, in contravention to the instruction contained in that tag telling you not to do so. I've restored the tag; if you remove it again you wil be blocked from editing Wikipedia for the duration of the AfD discussion. What you should do is visit Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Serb war criminals and there make cogent and persuasive arguments in favour of the article's retention. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 14:52, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry that you find "my behavior unacceptable", but judging on your very strong opinions expressed on your userpage and elsewhere, I didn't expect a much different reaction. I understand your emotions regarding the issue of war crimes against Bosniaks, and the pain your relatives and friends have suffered, but appeal to emotion has never been a particularly strong argument. I refrained from the voting on the AfD, as you can see.
I must say that, if you want the truth to be heard, you have tackled the wrong end of it. Grouping various assholes from the war per their ethnicity and then linking the page from numerous places is bound to be divisive, taken as provocation, and (rightfully) seen as an attempt to prove the point that "all Serbs are evil" (guilt by association) and that Bosniaks have suffered.
I have to say that I have nothing against extensive coverage about war crimes in Wikipedia in the war (commited by Serbs or not), but I have yet to see a fair, balanced and neutral attempt to do so, so that facts and reliable sources speak for themselves rather than strong opinions and biases. But I must presume that I can't convince you that I'm assuming good faith and expect otherwise. Duja► 16:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Question?
Why do you express POVist passion on your talk page??? --PaxEquilibrium 17:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Do not remove deletion notices
Please stop removing Articles for deletion notices or comments from articles and Articles for deletion pages, as you did with Category:Serb war criminals — it is considered vandalism. You may comment at the respective page if you oppose an article's deletion. Thanks. —Psychonaut 17:37, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Assume good faith
I note that you've recently posted reports on Wikipedia:Requests for page protection and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents alleging bad faith on the part of users who have nominated your pages for deletion. Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors. See Wikipedia:Assume good faith for the guidelines on this. Also, please don't disrupt Wikipedia to prove a point by misusing Wikipedia:Requests for page protection and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. —Psychonaut 17:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] I agree action is needed...
What do you want me to do? I will help you in any way possible. The article is legitimate since all of them were either indicted. I'll see what I can do. Pozdrav, Vseferović 17:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- Listen I had the same problem with the Infoboxes for Municipality Bosnia and Herzegovina. (Check the Wikiproject Bosnia and Herzegovina article and join). I am the headmaster there. I'll ask people to join in this fight. I already left a message on the article we are dealing with. Where should we vote? Vseferović 17:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] List of Serb war criminals
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to List of Serb war criminals, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --ArmadilloFromHellGateBridge 17:57, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Your contributions history shows that you have been aggressively cross-posting in order to influence Articles for deletion/List of Serb war criminals. Although the Arbitration Committee has ruled that "[t]he occasional light use of cross-posting to talk pages is part of Wikipedia's common practice"1, such cross-posting should adhere to specific guidelines found in Wikipedia:Spam. In the past, aggressively worded cross-posting has contributed towards an Arbitration Committee ruling of disruptive behavior that resulted in blocking2. It is best not to game the system, and instead respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building, by ceasing to further crosspost, and instead allowing the process to reflect the opinions of editors that were already actively involved in the matter at hand. Thank you. --ArmadilloFromHellGateBridge 18:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Slavic languages.JPG listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Slavic languages.JPG, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in its not being deleted. Thank you. —Psychonaut 18:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Poruka (Message)
I left a message on the deletion page and to user:ArmadilloFromHell. We'll see how they reply. Thanks, Vseferović 20:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Your personal attack
You might've not noticed, but your comment was highly uncivil and practically can be categorized as a personal attack. I am not denying any war crime, nor protecting anyone - it's just that that article is a candidate for deletion. The article said that you are bound to see a war criminal in any Serb-inhabited city in Bosnia - excuse me, but do you consider that not POV? Of course I do not approve of any of the atrocities committed by anyone - but you on the other hand, seem to do approve. You widely express the heroism on your talk page of the Army of Bosnia and Herzegovina - which itself wasn't really "clean" in the war - and especially the Kosovo Liberation Army; which means that you're a supporter of terrorism. Several days ago was an anniversary of one kid's death, marked by his parents. The kid was a hostage of the KLA and it was executed after the government refused to negotiate with terrorists. Is that what you really support? "Butchering" (in your own words) of children? Your user page is also full of highly nationalistic inflammations - so I can't understand your arguments. The claims such as non-existence of Serbs and Croats (that they're "Really Christian Bosniacs") is no better than to claim that Bosniacs are "really" Croats or Serbs. This, together with the other things you wrote, even more exceed the Balkanized "Greater" nationalist ideologies - so I repeat, I cannot understand that which you claim. --PaxEquilibrium 21:00, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Among the incorrect bits in your talk page, for example; are these:
- You wrote that Bosnia was now a country dominated by Muslim Bosniaks, and the Catholic and Orthodox Bosniaks were immediately incorporated into the Slavic neighbours of Catholic Croatia and Orthodox Serbia through national manipulation. - when the Muslims were indeed in minority. The Orthodox Serbs comprised the majority.
- The prewar percentage of Bosnian Muslims was 44%. Due to various reasons (including ethnic cleansing of non-Bosniacs, among other), the Bosniac percentage climbed to 48%, and in no way dropped (most certainly not to 30%). I also honestly can't believe how could 200,000 Bosniacs die in the war, the 300,000 dead overall seems to be an overestimate - and 100,000 altogether is a much more reliable figure. Then again, we're playing with the counts of how many people died - and that's just a little disgusting. --PaxEquilibrium 21:09, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use images
Sorry about taking the image off your page, but you aren't allowed to use them in user space! My main motivation was to make the change [1] , but if I was doing it on a fair use basis, I had to change the other userpages of the other people using this image too! 86.12.249.63 15:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Stop reinserting images which have been removed because of legal and fair use concerns. Your actions can be seen as vandalism. If you do one more such edit you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. You may not get another warning before being blocked.
—Psychonaut 21:16, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Minor edits
I note that you have been making some significant or controversial edits to Wikipedia and marking them as "minor". Please be advised that this is an inappropriate use of the "minor edit" flag; please refer to Help:Minor edit for when to use this flag. —Psychonaut 21:46, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Block request
In view of your continued disruption to Wikipedia, I have posted a report at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Ancient Land of Bosoni recommending that you be blocked until you confirm that you have read and agreed to abide by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. —Psychonaut 21:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- You have been warned, I have removed all political and racist comments on your userpage. If you have something against Croats and Serbs, take it somewhere else, not here. Considering that you probably are on of those two (since there is no ethnicity called "Bosniak", it is either a Serb or Croat of Muslim faith), I would also like to offer you help with getting over these issues. My talk page is open to you, feel free to discuss your frustrations about your racist attitude. I wish you all the best in getting over these things, --Svetislav Jovanović 05:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
