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Contents 1 Pat Quinn/ behavior 2 Simpsons song list 3 "Female sexuality" article 4 Cartoons 5 Thank you 6 Jesus as "he who must not be named" 7 You're too kind. 8 Inclusionist userbox 9 Quote 10 Lou 11 Sorry for no reversion 12 Weird creature 13 Third-wave feminism 14 Reverts marked as minor 15 Ann Furedi and BPAS merge 16 CCOTW 17 Content Issue with Atkins Nutritional Approach 18 Prince Albert piercing 19 You HAte yet love? 20 Fair use images on user pages ... 21 Thanks for such a quick reply 22 CCOTW 23 Thanks for the nice comment 24 Electricity question 25 Wrong person. 26 Gay penguins 27 Kiki Carter 28 Vandalism or carelessness 29 of oars and forks 30 Ugly words 31 Reference desk comments 32 Caffeine 33 Hi there 34 Hiya 35 In case this isn't on your watchlist... 36 What happened to the 'dense material' thread? It's totally gone, and it was only a day or two old. 37 You, and stuff 38 Signpost -- Italian interwiki report 39 == Your IQ == 40 Fiction v. nonfiction 41 German Wiki 42 Re Scott Walker 43 Bend It Like Beckham 44 Airport map 45 Firing up about the whole MILF thing & its broader ramifications for women who contribute to the reference desk and the rest of the world generally 46 Reference Desk 47 Margin setting answer on ref desk 48 List of songs featured in The Simpsons 49 Upcoming template changes 50 Misc error 51 Oh 52 IE windows 53 Age in Sig? 54 Invitation to join WikiProject Environment 55 Reference on Cauliflower 56 Re: Reference desk 57 Ahem 58 Guglielmo Clintone 59 BLP 60 RfA thanks 61 hi :) 62 Thanks back to you 63 Correct ethnicity terminology 64 Olive branch 65 Help with Editor Review 66 Troll discussion 67 re:WP:AN/I 68 Ref desk cleanup, help needed 69 Women and Photography 70 Rules for deletion 71 Under attack 72 Conflict of interest guideline 73 Vandalism 74 Please vote on attempt to delete new Ref Desk rules 75 Chess ? 76 Thanks

[edit] Pat Quinn/ behavior

because it was the British spelling on a mostly american sports league. --NeverLogic 17:06, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Thats fine, it doesn't really matter. I wasnt sure if those spellings were exclusively British or canadian too. --NeverLogic 00:41, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Simpsons song list

Hello, I'll be happy to try and use that list you mention, thanks. Dirk Diggler Jnr

Could you mail it plz? thanks so much  :) Dirk Diggler Jnr

Done. And I edited your post to remove your email addy.--Anchoress 15:10, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Female sexuality" article

Regarding female sexuality: this article is really only a stub. It's intended to be a start of expanding the human sexuality coverage, keeping human sexuality as an overview of all of the forms of human sexuality, and using female sexuality and male sexuality to work on the aspects which are typically more specific to women and men respectively (but without, I hope, resorting to mere stereotyping). It's a huge topic, and the current version is rather poor -- please feel free to revise it as you see fit. A start on male sexuality would be nice, too. -- The Anome 02:56, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cartoons

Showing the figures of Mohammed is disturbing muslims. And it is a insult to Islam. In Islam making and also looking the figures of Mohammed is forbidden.That is raping the holy things of Islam.And it is not about "freedom".PLEASE get back your sıgnature.Thanks.--Erdemsenol 00:46, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Please do not equate the publication of a cartoon with sexual assault; it's an insult to people who have endured that particular physical violation.--Anchoress 01:11, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Hi Anchoress. Thank you for your kind words and the barnstar. I appreciate it. It is encouraging me to continue in the efforts I was making. Peace. Metta Bubble 10:51, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

The following paragraph contains sentence fragments I can't decipher:

The Justice and Islamic Affairs Minister of the United Arab Emirates, Mohammed Al Dhaheri, called it "cultural terrorism, not freedom of expression," according to the official WAM news agency. "The repercussions of such irresponsible acts will have adverse impact on international relations." In Tunisia, Abdulaziz Othman Altwaijri, president of the Islamic Organization for Education, Science and Culture (the Islamic world's counterpart to UNESCO) called the drawings "a form of racism and discrimination that one must counter by all available means." He said, "It's regrettable to state today, as we are calling for dialogue, that other parties feed animosity and hate and attack sacred symbols of Muslims and of their prophet," said also Jordan's largest circulation daily, government-run Al-Rai, said the Danish government must apologize. [53]

It's hard to check since the citations seem to be out of order. I'd fix them myself but I really, really, really don't know how.--Anchoress 06:21, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

that is the source : [1] --Unfinishedchaos 14:03, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jesus as "he who must not be named"

Curious: Where did you hear that In the Jewish annals of notable Jews, Jesus is referred to as 'He Who Must Not be Named'? I've never heard this referred to before, and Google doesn't seem to corroborate much either. Do you know what 'annals' make the reference? -Joshuapaquin 02:22, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I've never read it myself, I heard it from a girlfriend.--Anchoress 03:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

It's actually a Judaic tradition that the name of God is "ineffable" and "not to be read aloud" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh)... Christianity is fond of adopting Jewish concepts and applying them to Jesus, as Christians believe that the expected Jewish Messiah was actually Jesus and therefore they have a right to culturally appropriate Judaic beliefs. By the way, thanks for the feedback on the robert pickton comment that I made... nice to not feel like I'm typing into a vacuum, and to hear from Vancouver editors...--fennel

No that's not it at all, actually fennel. My friend who told me about this is an Orthodox Jew, she has no interest in Christianity. She says that in Jewish historical texts, there is a list of notable Jews going back thousands of years. It lists honourable and notorious people. The most notorious is Jesus, and he is so despicable that he is never named. He's just called 'he who must not be named'.--Anchoress 09:24, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Interesting! I hadn't heard that before... It is also true that Christianity often attributes Judaic perspectives about God to Jesus... I've heard the term "Adonai" and other Jewish religious terminology used by Evangelical Christians in reference to Jesus, usually in songs in church... as well as the commonly heard Evangelical Christian teaching that the Jewish Messiah was in fact Jesus... I grew up in that context. It is also Judaic tradition that the name of God must not be spoken out loud, as described on the wikipedia page titled Yahweh that I referenced above. So there's a Jewish reason for Jesus to be referred to as "He Who Must Not Be Named", and a different Evangelical Christian reason for same. Complicated!--fennel

Well we're all learning like sons of guns. I was already very familiar with the prescription in Judaism against saying G-d's name, but (despite knowing a lot of ECs as well) I have never heard of a prescription against using His name in Christianity.--Anchoress 06:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

That's because there definately isn't one. I wouldn't be surprised if Jesus's name is a taboo in Jewish culture though. And Christians appropriate Jewish beliefs because Christian theology teaches that Christianity is really just Judaism that didn't refuse to accept Jesus as the accepted messiah. I never really "got" they Jewish side... they worship a God of love and when Jesus comes along preaching forgiveness and love rather than the draconian theocracy that the religious leaders of the time were pushing, and he claims the title of the messiah, and doesn't violently overthrow Rome, they crucify him! What were they expecting, fire and brimstone? o_o --froth^{T C} 23:13, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I think it's a myth. The Talmud is replete with references to Yeshua. --Dweller 12:08, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

My friend isn't talking about the Talmud. She says there's a list of notable Jews, thousands of years old, and Jesus is kind of the Timothy McVey of Jewish history. I mean, she lives in Israel and she's very, very religious, and she says nobody in the Orthodox community ever says Jesus' name, it's like if you hear his name you spit on the ground in disgust because of what a horrible seditionist he was.--Anchoress 12:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

As Jesus was only born 2000 years ago, the list can't be that old and it must post-date (and be massively less notable than) the Talmud. I'm interested to know more; please ask your friend what the list is. Perhaps there's some confusion with "Christ" going on here... observant Jews won't refer to Jesus as "Christ", because the name means "annointed one", i.e. Messiah; Jews don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah. I frequently move in Orthodox (and very Orthodox) Jewish circles - the most radical expression of this that I've encountered is for people to insist on calling him by his Hebrew, Talmudic name. I've never heard of referring to Jesus in a Voldemort-type manner. Can I respectfully ask that you remove this comment from your user page? Even if it's true, it does come across as sneering and you seem like far too nice a person to be willfully indulging in sneering. --Dweller 12:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey listen, I don't want to cause any stress here. If I remember to I'll ask her about it, we never went into details. I doubt there's been any 'confusion' over terms, but what do I know? As to my comment on my userpage, I definitely didn't mean it in a 'sneering' way and I ask that you let go of having that interpretation of it.--Anchoress 12:56, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

It's no problem for me, I'm quite broad-minded. I'm just saying how it can be read. Anyway, please do ask your friend... I'd love to learn more about the list and who's on it! (I suspect just a teensy bit of POV!) --Dweller 13:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Like I said, I'll ask if I remember. And of course it's POV, I wouldn't expect it to be anything else.--Anchoress 13:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Erm, btw does "I definitely didn't mean it in a 'sneering' way" mean "no I won't remove the comment from my user page"? --Dweller 13:08, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. :-)--Anchoress 13:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

-)

Wikipedia needs more editors like you. Thanks for the chat. Please do drop me a note at my Talk page if you get that reference. --Dweller 13:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I will if I remember, cheers.--Anchoress 13:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You're too kind.

I didn't write my userpage in order to please others, but since I apparently have, I'm glad. Thanks for the compliment.  :) -Kasreyn 03:39, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inclusionist userbox

{{User incl}} —Nightstallion (?) ^{Seen this already?} 11:06, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Cool, thanks.--Anchoress 11:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quote

This is a reply to your question for your article. I apologize that I am unable to assist you, I deal primarily in corporate and copyright law. I tried looking around a bit throguh NY laws and found this:

  A  person  is  guilty  of  incest when he or she marries or engages in
 sexual intercourse, oral sexual conduct or anal sexual  conduct  with  a
 person  whom  he  or  she  knows  to  be  related  to him or her, either
 legitimately or out of wedlock, as an ancestor, descendant,  brother  or
 sister  of  either  the  whole or the half blood, uncle, aunt, nephew or
 niece.
   Incest is a class E felony.

Which may be of use and seems to be in line with the other quote. I recommend you look around and don't post something untill you can credit to a reliable source. Once again, I apologize that I am unable to be of greater assistance. --Arthus 00:31, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lou

Please, please, please don't encourage him (which is all that taunting him will do). I was thisclose to reverting your comment as trolling, but while I think it's borderline, I'm not sure that it's quite enough to justify my interfering with another user's comment on another user's talk page.

I know that he's irritating, and I know that it's tempting to lay into him, but a) it's not nice and b) it'll just make him more determined to try to screw things up however he can manage to do so, wasting everyone else's time in the process. Every frustration that he encounters just makes him more determined that he's right and everyone else on Wikipedia is wrong, and that he should do something about it. I'm not saying don't comment on his page at all if you really have something to say, but try to keep it calm and civil.

Thanks.

Hbackman 06:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't think my message lacked calmness or civility, and I definitely think you did the right thing not 'reverting...as trolling', because I think that would have been incorrect and over-zealous. --Anchoress 06:31, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

As another third party—yeah, it really did look like you were snapping your fingers under Lou's nose. Don't kick him while he's down. If he's going to self-destruct on the wiki, allow him to do it without assistance. I'll be the first in line to block him if he steps over the line of his paroles, but I won't tolerate gratuitious incivility and taunting directed at him because he's vulnerable. Please don't do it again. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 20:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Opinion noted. FWIW I don't think I was being incivil, much less 'gratuitously incivil' (whatever that means), but I'll take the suggestions anyway. I just think it's great that he's spreading the word (literally) about cocksucking. I mean, especially since IMO no self-respecting 14 year old (even a gay one) would be caught dead reading a scholarly article on homosexuality, I think it's a real public service that Lou is making the word cocksucker available to so many more people through his repeated comments on the article in different locations on WP. But I certainly will take the suggestions of the posters here and lay off. :-)--Anchoress 21:07, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry for no reversion

I hadn't checked my talkpage for a few days and missed your Robert Falcon Scott request, so thanks for dealing with it for me. --Xyrael ^T 08:51, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

No probs, thanks for the note.--Anchoress 10:05, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Weird creature

I saw this in a townhouse park in Richmond, just behind the strip mall at #2 and Blundell. I may take a walk this weekend with a camera to see if I can get a photo...it really was pretty bizarre looking. --Kickstart70-T-C 04:45, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Huh, that's so strange. I'd love to see a pic.--Anchoress 05:39, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Third-wave feminism

While it does need expansion, it doesn't need it so badly that it warrants the article being defaced for the indefinite future. Moreover, tagging it isn't likely to be very helpful, because it's unlikely to attract the sort of help this article is going to need to improve (essentially, someone with a PhD or above in gender studies). Rebecca 04:58, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I disagree with your wording (defacement) and your reasoning, but as I said on the talk page of the article I won't get into a fight about it. I do think, however, that your attitude constitutes a dis-service to WP editors (assuming that the tag will attract more disruptive editors than helpful ones), and to visitors wanting to be informed about the topic as per WP's stated purpose for being.--Anchoress 05:05, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it will attract more disruptive editors than helpful ones. It's more that it's not going to attract anyone at all with the capability of actually expanding this, and that in that case, it really isn't helpful at all to have an ugly banner that serves no purpose except to state the bleeding obvious. I'd love to see the article expanded, but short of doing a PhD on the subject, there isn't much I can do about that escept wait. Rebecca 09:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reverts marked as minor

If you're reverting vandalism, it's perfectly all right to mark a revert as minor; this is why admins' rollbacks are automatically marked as minor. If you're reverting a very minor edit, then it's good courtesy not to mark your revert as minor, but it's not that big a deal (though this latter part is just my opinion). All reverts regarding disputed content (e.g. not formatting/spelling/vandalism/etc.) should never be marked minor. HTH, Johnleemk | Talk 05:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

That's kind of what I thought; thank you very much for the info.--Anchoress 06:00, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ann Furedi and BPAS merge

Hi: you removed the merge tag from the Ann Furedi side. I'm sorry if I've used the wrong template for the tag, but I don't think it's such a good idea to just remove the tag, since then people reading that article won't know the merge is being proposed and therefore won't be able to contribute their views. If there's a better tag to use (I've seen the one I placed used on both sides of a merger), could you put it up? Or at least explain your actions on the talk page so people will know what's going on with the Merge talk? Thanks in advance.--Anchoress 09:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I fear you have misunderstood my action. Both articles were tagged with the {{mergefrom}} template, thus implying that each article would be merged into the other, which is not an applicable option (incidentally if the {{merge}} template had been used instead there would not have been this problem). I therefore checked the discussions and it seemed that they implied that the intended option was that the article for Ann Furedi, which is quite short, should be merged into that for BPAS which is rather longer. Maybe if you read this it will explain the situation better than I can. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 10:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

No, I don't think I misunderstood your action; I didn't ascribe any ill-intent to it, I inferred from your edit summary that you thought - since the merge was proposed *from* Ann to BPAS - the merge template on Ann was wrong. I believe I said in my original post to you that I assumed I'd just put up the wrong template and I'm sorry for that, but I just thought it was inappropriate to leave the article with *no* merge template. That opinion stands, without prejudice.--Anchoress 10:32, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey thanks for putting up the new template. I'm assuming it was you?--Anchoress 10:56, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

So far as I can tell, there was never actually any time when there was no template once you had added one: check the article history. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 15:05, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Lol... well there wasn't one, that was how I knew to post on your page. I went to the page three separate times around the time I posted to your page (once before and twice soon after). Then all of a sudden it appeared. I'm not saying the history is lying, but I promise you there was no template (at least visible). :-)) Belive me, that's why I went to your page to comment.--Anchoress 15:49, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Must be a caching thing, because if you look at this, it's the revision before you added the tag. If you step through with the "next revision" links—right under the timestamp which is right under the title—the next revision is where you added the tag, and the next is where I changed it: you will find that if you step through all the way to the current revision, there is always a tag. This is one reason we advise people to get to know about how to clear your cache (which fixes "the undesired and confusing result that after making a change you still see the old version of a page" amongst other things). HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 07:57, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CCOTW

You showed support for the selection of a Canada Collaboration. This month George-Étienne Cartier was selected for improvement. We hope you can contribute.

[edit] Content Issue with Atkins Nutritional Approach

Anchoress, I want to thank you for putting your two cents in on this ridiculous argument. I apologize for doing so on the discussion page of the article but for some reason, Tom feels as if I'm deleting his links and want my added. Which is not the case. I posted in discussion to see what many felt about including links for support forums and Tom took it as an attack. I was actually speaking on behalf of all support forums. Is there some way we can put this issue to vote among admins so that this issue is cleared up? At this point, I'm following policy by deleting support forum links, but I would like to know what everyone else thinks and hopefully we can add a section for these links in the future for people that want to learn more.

Tom's attacks are based on what is a long standing fued on his part and I apologize for it rearing it's ugly head on Wikipedia BrianZ 06:23, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi BrianZ. Well, here goes. First, unlike message boards, admins here don't have the ability to make or change policy, and they don't usually get involved in content disputes. I'm not an admin, but I've seen enough discussion about it in various places to know that it often comes up on certain pages. I think the best thing to do is to keep removing the links that contravene policy. We have to remember that this is an encyclopedia, not a place for people to get help, and no matter how much we'd like to give people useful outside links to help them, we may not be able to if they contravene policy. I believe that it might be worthwhile for you to post a request for comment or a request for mediation, and maybe some outside eyes can come in and comment; they might be able to find a way to give both you guys what you want, or they may just tell both of you to cool off and go edit something else. WP seems to have been built on a policy of de-escalation; it's common for people to be advised to back off from an issue they feel passionate/obstinate about. Hope this helps.--Anchoress 07:46, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice, I'll do that. I think Tom is just unable to see that we both want the same thing. He is just arguing and trying to make me look poorly because he's unable to comprehend what I'm saying. I feel it's my fault too, I guess I'm not writing clearly enough. :) Thanks BrianZ 14:32, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prince Albert piercing

Hi, I reverted and sightly fiddled with the PA article to show that urine really is sterile - as the norm, anyway. --kylet 09:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, cool. I was going to do it in a day or two if nobody objected. Thanks!!--Anchoress 09:30, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Well I didn't really think it was a subject for discussion, the editor who stated urine is not sterile was... wrong. --kylet 16:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You HAte yet love?

Gordon Campbell? I dislike politcally amd dispise, but hate? Hate's wrong. I also dispise the crooks you "love."

Hate for things? Hypocrisy? I agree 100%; but this conflicts with your "Love" category,

--G-Spot 14:44, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

PS...Don't blame me, I voted Buday -- moi

YAWN. You're boring. Go be boring somewhere else.--Anchoress 16:37, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use images on user pages ...

I'm afraid Wikipedia policy prohibits the use of Fair Use images on user pages, such as the Tito portrait you use (Image:Tito-portret-jovanovic.jpg). We're only supposed to use unlicensed images under the Fair Use defense under US copyright law within articles where a strong fair use rationale can be provided and there is no free alternative. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 16:17, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

That's fine with me, since some other user added it without my knowledge, consent or wish. I just left it cuz I have a policy of not removing anything people add. But if it contravenes FU, I'd be glad to be rid of it. Delete away. :-))--Anchoress 16:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for such a quick reply

Really appreciate the information --Zeraeph 13:10, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

NP, good luck with it.--Anchoress 13:12, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CCOTW

You showed support for the selection of a Canada Collaboration. This month Toronto was selected for improvement. We hope you can contribute.

[edit] Thanks for the nice comment

I don't care how the article goes personally. What I really want is for the bickering to end in a peaceful way with as few people getting upset as possible. Crazyswordsman 02:25, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

No probs. I love the dispassionate application of logic in all its forms.--Anchoress 02:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Electricity question

haha.. infact, i blanked your page specifically to acknoledge i had read your reply (and it worked).. and reverting it is obviously no sweat. i was also waiting to hear more from another user.

cheers 137.122.14.20 02:17, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

it's User:Adam the atom i forgot to sign in.

Hmmm, ok... maybe one day we'll speak the same language.--Anchoress 02:43, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wrong person.

I wasn't the one who added "feck", I added the Red vs Blue note onto "fucktard", you must've looked at the wrong editor. Thanks anyway. ;) -- Viewdrix 18:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

My bad, sorry about that. I should check more closely. Cheers.--Anchoress 22:03, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gay penguins

From ANI: Cool. Sorry to bother you guys.--Anchoress 02:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Not a bother at all! It could easily have been viewed as vandalism and some rogue admin would have just deleted the redirect. Many thanks for bringing it up at ANI. Indeed, here's a few penguins. -- Samir धर्म 07:32, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Aaawwww, my first penguins!! Thanks!--Anchoress 07:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kiki Carter

Hello. You posted a tag on the Kiki Carter page, suggesting that the article needs copyediting. Would you please be more specific as to the type of copyediting you feel it needs. Thank you. Eaglefeather11 15:51, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes. As you can see, the article needs to have fixed the following: a) inconsistent abbreviation; b) missing or extra spaces; c) misplaced, missing or extra punctuation.--Anchoress 16:14, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks much!Eaglefeather11

[edit] Vandalism or carelessness

Hi, On your user page I see "My dog submissive pees for lesbians, and HATES people in motorised wheelchairs" As this doesn't make sense as a sentance (at least to me) I'm drawing it to your attention. AllanHainey 15:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. It's neither vandalism nor carelessness, but I'm sorry it doesn't make sense to you. Perhaps if I put 'submissive pees' in quotations, because it's a kind of dog behaviour lingo that is accurate even though it's not conventional conjugation for the context. If I remember I'll change it to make it more clear.--Anchoress 15:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] of oars and forks

"poke a fork in it" isn't exactly the tone I was hoping for, even on talkpages. My contribution consisted precislely in moving the unhappy section out of the way because it has no place on RD. Thus, apart from stylistic matters, we seem to be in agreement. I certainly won't mind if you remove the section altogether. dab (ᛏ) 06:24, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, well I guess we each disapprove of the other person's mode of self-expression? Because I thought your comments were completely unnecessary and hence inflammatory. I agree with your choice to move the section and your reasons, and I shall go ahead and delete the whole thing. --Anchoress 06:29, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

BTW, just wanted to make sure you understand that 'poke a fork in it' is a completely non-offensive English metaphor comparing an issue to dinner? As in, 'Poke a fork in him, Greg Norman's done like dinner as far as this tournament is concerned.' It isn't pejorative, and it's not akin to saying 'put a sock in it'.Anchoress 06:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd have to agree here. Poke a fork in it is even a bit on the silly side of saying things, its not an insult in any way. I agree that removal was the best thing here. The comments didn't have anything to do with the reference desk, and hopefully their removal will allow the arguers to forgot about it. Hopefully. I'm really being hopeful since I see signs of tempers, but I'm assuming good faith until then. Good job both of you. pschemp | talk 06:57, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, pschemp. BTW, how did you ever end up in my quiet little corner of the 'pedia?--Anchoress 07:06, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm a science geek. :) I keep an eye on the reference desk all the time, just don't usually post. pschemp | talk 07:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Sweet! Happy editing. Anchoress 07:20, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ugly words

You like smegma?!??! --14:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I love the way it rrrrolls off the tongue. ;-) Anchoress 23:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I can't decide if the entendre is double or triple. Anyway, when are you going to remove that comment from your user page? I'm afraid it still bothers me enormously, despite your explanations. --Dweller 09:02, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't plan to remove it, at least not without a convincing reason. I suggest that if it bothers you, don't read it any more. Besides, you said above, "It's no problem for me, I'm quite broad-minded. I'm just saying how it can be read." Anchoress 09:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I was trying very hard. Particularly sice from the noises you were making, you seemed reasonable and prepared to remove it. My mistake. I am trying (very) hard not to rant (honestly). But I find each of the following elements problematic (the first is the one I have most trouble with):

• that you find a Jewish source hilarious
• that you can't name that source
• that referring to it as "the Jewish annals of notable Jews", makes it sound somehow "official"
• that Google's only ref to ""the Jewish annals of notable Jews" brings up your user pages

Sorry. Actually, perhaps what bothers me most is that you seem so (otherwise) likeable. --10:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

• I regret that it bothers you, and to be clear I never indicated I was going to remove it.
• I don't recall making any noises at all.
• I understand that you find me likeable, that is flattering but possibly inaccurate.
• You are welcome to rant on my talk page.
• I believe that I am not obligated to provide sources that satisfy you or other editors for content on my user page.
• I don't doubt that 'the Jewish annals of notable Jews' doesn't turn up much, since the original is probably in Hebrew or Aramaic.
• Perhaps the best thing for you to do would be to forget about this, since it is causing you so much distress.
• Perhaps at some point in the future, I shall explain to you why I find it hilarious. I don't know if it will make you feel better or worse, but if you wish it and if I feel like it I may do so.
• I empathise with you because there are some things on other people's user pages that bother me quite a bit too.
• I find your persistence disturbing, to tell you the truth you're starting to give me the creeps.

Anchoress 11:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

No wish to give you the creeps. I'm still bothered. Glad you empathise. I'm gone. --Dweller 11:39, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Bye-bye. Anchoress 12:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

There is no such book. JonathanPenton 07:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jonathan; how did you come to this conversation? Especially since there's a more specific one above? Thanks for the info anyway, but I believe my friend over you, no offence. Anchoress 07:42, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

No offence taken; that is natural. I reckon at some point you'll come to the conclusion that the matter bears further investigation on your part; I would expect my input to have only the smallest effect on that eventuality. To answer your question, I happened upon this conversation when studying the Publicgirluk thing. JonathanPenton 07:57, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, cheers. Anchoress 08:02, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reference desk comments

Regarding the question on street prostitutes: very well said. Pretty well sums up my viewpoints on the topic as well. Glad to know I'm not alone in that thinking! Tony Fox (arf!) 16:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment! It's a pet issue of mine. Anchoress 16:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Caffeine

Thank you for going over the caffeine article. I've been staring at it for so long that I'm likely to miss lots of little (or not so little) errors and omissions. – ClockworkSoul 06:08, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

No probs, it looks awesome actually. I left some notes on the talk page, and if you check the edit summaries there are some explanations and questions. I'll be back to check it again soon. Cheers, --Anchoress 06:31, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

You've made some very useful observations, thank you! I'm going to do what I can to make the article as close to perfect as is possible. If you can find the reference regarding the illegality of adding extra caffeine to soda in Canada, I would be most grateful. Cheers! – ClockworkSoul 06:39, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

No probs, glad to be of help. I found the info, it's on the talk page. Anchoress 06:47, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi there

Well, I've seen you at the Desks, and page histories often, and I was wondering if there was any chance you work at a university? I am looking for somebody that can send me papers because I can't subscribe to every single journal on the internet like universities do. :D Thanks, — [Mac Davis] (talk)

No, sorry. But good luck though. Is there maybe a category for that? Anchoress 22:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Don't think so. User:ClockworkSoul agreed to help me. — [Mac Davis] (talk)

That's great. He'll help you I'm sure, he's a great guy. Anchoress 23:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hiya

So do you want to start uploading pics of ourselves in the manner of User:Publicgirluk? I think I would do one to add to the "Anal Sex" article. What about you?Courtney Akins 01:58, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind, but I'm unpartnered at present. Good luck though. Anchoress 02:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In case this isn't on your watchlist...

Do you have any thoughts on Talk:Scott Walker (singer)? Thanks. --Cherry blossom tree 22:48, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I saw your reply but I haven't looked at the diffs yet. Hopefully the editor who you've indicated has made some sweeping edits will weigh in. Anchoress 23:25, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Cherry blossom tree: I trust you've seen my post to the talk page? I hope it meets with your approval. I think it's best to go easy with this one since it seems good faith attempts to clean up the purple prose have been reverted before, and a revert war between four editors isn't any more pleasant than one between two. :-) I hope that the prior warning of impending trimming will preclude reverts (fingers crossed!). It is regrettable that Andrew is somewhat uncivil, but IMO there's no point in belabouring it at present since he doesn't seem to hold WP policies and guidelines in high regard (at present). Let's continue to WP:AGF and keep our fingers crossed, and hopefully this article will clean up without too much agony. :-) Anchoress 10:14, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I've no intention of starting an edit war, don't worry. I think your approach sounds wise, especially since Andrew doesn't seem too keen on editing in a standard manner. If there's anything I can do to help, I'm happy to. I think it's probably best to just have a look over it once you're finished, to avoid getting in the way. Thanks. --Cherry blossom tree 18:42, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Cool. He's asked me to wait until August 31, and there are other editors working on it too, I think he's got the picture now. It would be so nice to get some sources. Anchoress 01:26, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I may be able to help out with sources - I'll see what I can lay my hands on. --Cherry blossom tree 18:40, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

That's great. Anchoress 18:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What happened to the 'dense material' thread? It's totally gone, and it was only a day or two old.

?? The one about ankle weights. I can't even find it in the edit history. Anchoress 19:06, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

• Sorry about that, transclusion error, to my knowledge, it's the first such mix up since I've taken over the transcluding, and has now been corrected. The question should now be visible under the "August 30" header--71.247.243.173 21:03, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You, and stuff

Thank you sincerely for all of your help with caffeine. I would also like to state, for the record, that Severus Snape is a badass, and a worthy recipient of a crush. ;) – ClockworkSoul 15:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

		The E=MC² Barnstar
		I, ClockworkSoul, hereby award you with the nifty purple barnstar for all of the work that you put into helping to raise caffeine to featured article status!

Aaw, how cool! My first barnstar!! Anchoress 15:37, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signpost -- Italian interwiki report

Hi,

If you think that the article needs copyediting, please do it -- the usual way. If in doubt about details of the article please contact the authors (Gia.cossa and Under). Kpjas 18:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

OH ok thanks, I wasn't sure if it was OK to do that. Will do. Anchoress 18:52, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] == Your IQ ==

Your IQ is amazing! Is there any websites where I can do an IQ test? I have been wanting to know mine. Caleb09 01:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. There probably are, but mine is from tests in HS. Good luck! Anchoress 01:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I think I have a high one..because I was reading books about the theory of relativity and astronomy in hmmm....4th grade? lol Caleb09 01:37, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fiction v. nonfiction

Re: User talk:CaptainXel, that blunt "Actually you're wrong Durova" was pretty harsh, especially since my advice was correct. This editor wants to sell a novel, not a nonfiction book. Your understanding is correct for nonfiction, but an unknown novelist needs a complete manuscript.[2] What worries me about the advice you offered is that it's the sort of mistake that not only leads to automatic rejection but might prevent a novelist from getting a second chance with a publisher. Durova 20:38, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Durova, you're absolutely wrong, I'm sorry. I am a published author, and I know from my own experience, along with many, many documented instances in reputable books on fiction writing that you do NOT have to have a completed manuscript. The quote you provided is the first time I have ever seen an expert advise that a completed manuscript is required, or even preferred. In 'The Writer's Market' and other books I've read, all the agents and publishers I've seen ask for the first three chapters and a detailed synopsis in their submission guidelines, they never ask for the whole work, and they don't ask whether or not it's finished. Anchoress 22:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] German Wiki

German Wiki

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:L%C3%B6schkandidaten/24._September_2006#Kategorie:Wikipedian_unterst.C3.BCtzt_Lesben-_und_Schwulenbewegung_.28gel.C3.B6scht.29

Some people try to delete category:Wikipedian support gay community: please help GLGerman 14:05, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know how. Anchoress 19:01, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Scott Walker

I don't agree that these are personal points of view. The discussion page is where we have been discussing this article. I don't appreciate all this work being wiped at your whim. I don't like the editing style adopted. I don't get where you are coming from in a historic literary context, which is what encyclopedic writing is based on. I will revert the text if you don't respond why you think you know better than me how to write. You did not add anything positive to the discussion while the work was in progress except your last claim about typos. You then just wiped out all that work that has been worked over repeatedly and for which there are perfectly good references provided in the discussion page. The other editors appear mollified.

To begin with, you seem to mistake PPOV with impersonal observations. That is why you presumably took out the "reportorial" observation about Walker's early recordings. This shows you don't understand literary or conventional styles of writing in this genre. A reporter does not necessarily provide a personal point of view when he reports an observation or a record of an event as it would strike any unbiased observer. That is his role, to convey clear information and impressions. This is both a neutral POV and the basis of western historical writing going back to Herodotus and Thucydides. This is a stylistic and philosphic manner(ism. Also, please don't fall into the trap of mistaking it for "original" material. It is impersonal observation that adds complexity to a report like this because it presents Walker in in another light from the general tone of the rest. It provides balance and depth. It also helps to avoid hagiography. If Karl Marx were once a devout little Jewish boy who sang regularly at Synagogue do you think that would not be a relevant fact to include in his bio?

What your edit is tending towards is reducing this report to a bland template. This is not the intent of encyclopedic writing, but one one for amateurs to hide behind. You are being officious, even if you don't intend it. This my considered courtesy response. Andrew Hanos.210.11.113.219 08:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to take so long to reply. I'm not able to put time into this right now, but a lot of your edits are just not in line with Wikipedia's editorial style. I'm sorry that you feel so negatively about my contributions to the article, I hope you can accept that I mean the best for the article, the subject and Wikipedia. Perhaps if you edited other articles, you would get a better feel for Wikipedia's editorial style and therefore for my (and other editors') editing priorities. Anchoress 02:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bend It Like Beckham

Hi Anchoress -- this is a copy of my reply to your Help Desk question at Wikipedia:Help_desk#Is there a place to post requested moves?. I don't believe a page move is needed; the specific issue with the redlink that you posted was that it needed to be a redirect to the actual article, which is at Bend It Like Beckham. I believe that is the correct capitalization. The film's own poster and web site are no help, since they both show the title in all-caps; however, IMDB, which we usually accept as canonical, shows the title as it presently is in the name of the article. I created a redirect with the redlined title you posted, so it will work as well. Best, --MCB 22:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

OK cool. I actually had as much of an issue with all the redirects from mis-spellings and different capitalisations, but someone said that's kopacetic, so I guess the deal's done like dinner. Thanks a heap for the reply. Anchoress 01:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Airport map

Further to my reply at London Heathrow Airport. If you go to National Air Traffic Services you can get PDF maps of all registered airports in the United Kingdom. You want to look for the "AD Chart". It requires free registration but they don't seem to be spammers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 01:42, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I know. I actually have a map in my London A-Z book that shows Heathrow. I didn't post to the talk page because I need help finding Heathrow in the UK, I posted it because I think there should be a map of Greater London in the Heathrow article with Heathrow marked. Anchoress 01:58, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Firing up about the whole MILF thing & its broader ramifications for women who contribute to the reference desk and the rest of the world generally

Hi Anchoress, I had a bit of a wikibreak (actually my activity on wikipedia really represents reality breaks) & I just wanted to get back to you and say that I really enjoyed your posts. I sometimes drop off the planet when real life leaves no gaps nad I fear that my sudden "disappearances" my seem a bit snobby, or something. I pretty much figured thats what you were talking about when you mentioned infantilisation, not the weird & slightly sick stuff that you linked to! Or at least I was relieved that what I thought you meant was correct. I realise that in many parts of the world women's rights are essentially null. In my post I was actually referring to the western world. If we worry about the whole world all at once, I think our heads will implode. But you're right - life sucks for an awful lot of women, and for no good reason. I pray it gets better. Cheerio then! Mattopaedia 12:26, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it. Yeah, I should start looking at unfamiliar articles before linking to them lol. Hope your sojourn on Wiki goes well, look forward to bumping into you soon. Anchoress 12:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reference Desk

Hola! I'm sorry about seeming fired up on the reference desk, it's just that I've only had an account for a day, and I think I'm doing a lot better than most newbies I've seen. I need help, don't I? AMP'd 22:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Hola, que tal? Hey, you don't have to apologise. I think you're doing great, but I get fired up when people answer questions incorrectly. Sorry if I seemed abrupt, it's my way. Happy editing. Anchoress 22:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Margin setting answer on ref desk

Great tips. Thanks. (Though it wasn't me that asked the Q). --Dweller 09:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Cheers! Anchoress 09:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of songs featured in The Simpsons

I've been tinkering with Talk:List of songs featured in The Simpsons and notice you mention on talk page about an Excel sheet you have. I'd be happy to take and juggle it if you like. I'm thinking for this page there has to be a better way than to list by song and by episode, duplicating the data (and errors) as we go, but no idea what it is. But for the moment, happy to collect any data on offer :) --Mortice 22:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, sure. Email me at my username at ***, and I'll send it to you. Anchoress 00:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Upcoming template changes

Hi, I've just noticed that you recently left a templated userpage message. I'm just bringing to your attention that the format and context of these templates will be shortly changing. It is recommended that you visit WikiProject user warnings and harmonisation discussion pages to find out how these changes could affect the templates you use. We also would appreciate any insights or thoughts you may have on the subject. Thanks for your understanding. Best regards Khukri ^{(talk . contribs)} 14:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Will do, thanks. Anchoress 14:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Misc error

Hi - I've replyed on the desk - thanks for bringing it to my attention. It was to do with the bot, and was probably a mediawiki error, or my internet connection. This is one of thr reasons I'm testing on your connection tonight! Thanks, Martinp23 14:37, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, no probs. So that turnover will be happening at midnight UK time? I'll be asleep then (it'll be 4:00 pacific time but I usually sleep during the day). Should I make a point of getting up to check it? Cuz I can, it won't be a problem. Anchoress 14:45, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

You don't really need to bother to be honest :) - I may (or may not) be online at midnight (UK time) tonight - depends on various things which I won't bore you with! Thanks again for doing this :) Martinp23 14:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

K, no probs. I'm totally happy to help in any way I can. Anchoress 15:13, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oh

I'm sorry I removed some of your text from your user page are you okay with that, oh yeah next time don't you ever call me okay--Cowboy From Hell 16:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)DJ BatWave

LOL that's funny. But please don't disrupt Wikipedia to make a point. And... let me get this straight. You post your phone number on a public page that potentially millions of people could see, but you don't want people to call you? That doesn't make sense to me. Anyways, happy editing! Anchoress 16:16, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IE windows

Thanks very much for the great advice at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing, despite my unwittingly rather vague question. --Dweller 16:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, you're welcome! Anchoress 01:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Age in Sig?

I recently supported your suggestion in the Child Protection debate, and now I'm wondering what you might think about this sig:

• TeckWiz is 12 yrs old^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 12:08, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure this is a real problem, but i don't see it as a good idea at all. --Doc Tropics ^{Message in a bottle} 05:52, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

It looks like trolling. I notice a couple of editors commented and the response was kind of hostile, so I think s/he is trying to get a rise. Anchoress 06:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I almost wonder if it's because of the Child Protection debate and recent publicity. Trolls know a hot-button issue when they see one :) --Doc Tropics ^{Message in a bottle} 06:16, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, could be. Anchoress 07:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Invitation to join WikiProject Environment

Hi there, I notice your continuing work on recycling. I am seeking to expand the membership of Wikipedia:WikiProject Environment to create a more informed vibrant environmental community on wikipedia. Would you be interested in joining? If so please put your name down on the project page --Alex 13:49, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey thanks for inviting me, I'll definitely join. Anchoress 13:56, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to the WikiProject, your support and contributions will be appreciated.--Alex 14:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reference on Cauliflower

Thanks for the reference. WVhybrid 19:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

NP. :-)) Anchoress 19:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Reference desk

Thank you! I was pleased to help. The supplement you describe sounds promising. I hope that additional studies will be able to confirm the link that you have found, that side effects can be measured, that efficacy can be measured and doses computed, and that eventually it will be able to reach a much wider population as a pharmaceutical agent. — Knowledge Seeker দ 07:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, that's the plan! Anchoress 16:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ahem

Why do you think that is the case madame? Hizzizzle 06:45, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Huh? Anchoress 07:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guglielmo Clintone

I sure hope you weren't thinking I was upset by our discussion on WP:ANI. User:Zoe|(talk) 20:14, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

You seemed agitated. Anchoress 21:09, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I came across that way, because I truly wasn't. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:28, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey, no problem, and thanks for mentioning it. I was perplexed but not upset by your responses. Cheers. Anchoress 22:30, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BLP

Hi, I noticed you added the BLP template to this page. You probably did this without thinking and you might realise now it was a mistake. But if not, just wanted to tell you it was unnecessary as he was already dead (indeed I believe the article was only created after his death) so obviously it was not a BLP. While we still have to observe BLP when it comes to other living people discussed on his page and we also should obviously try to avoid unsourced material as with all wikipedian articles we don't add the BLP unless the article is itself a BLP. Cheers Nil Einne 03:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Ugh, boy, do I feel like the biggest fucking moron on the face of the planet. And I was so proud of myself for remembering the template name. :-(( Sorry. Geez it wasn't intentional. :-(( My first really big, stupid mistake. Anchoress 04:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Thank you for the Support I'd like to express my huge thanks to you, Anchoress, for your support in my recent RfA, which closed with 100% support at 71/0/1. Needless to say, I am very suprised at the huge levels of support I've seen on my RfA, and at the fact that I only had give three answers, unlike many other nominees who have had many, many more questions! I'll be careful with my use of the tools, and invite you to tell me off if I do something wrong! Thanks, Martinp23 14:58, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey congrats, I am sooooo happy for you! That's an excellent result, and I'm sure you'll do great. Anchoress 21:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hi :)

I'm 14. How old are U? Isitcozimblack 04:04, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Everything I'm comfortable revealing about myself is on my userpage. ;-) Have a good nite! Anchoress 04:08, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Age ain't nuttin' but a thang! Why the long face, pussycat? Isitcozimblack 04:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks back to you

Well thank you Anchoress. I've seen nothing but clarity from you at the 'RD in some of our contentious moments and if others have benefited from your perspectives as have I well then, the RD has been mightily enriched. You have been able to capture the essence of our discourse and have demonstrated an excellent sense of timing as to when to submit your thoughts and ideas. I don't know if it's cleverness or just natural wisdom on your part; you just seem to provide the right tone at the right time and I thank you for that ability to "calm the waters". See you 'round I'm sure, --hydnjo talk 04:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Blushes: Those are extremely kind words, and I thank you so much for them! I'm so flattered my fingers aren't working. :-))) Anchoress 04:39, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Damn, I didn't mean for that to happen. ;-) --hydnjo talk 04:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

~Typing laboriously with elbows~ lol. It's OK. An excuse not to respond to junk emails. ;-) Anchoress 04:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Now that's an interesting image! --hydnjo talk 05:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Correct ethnicity terminology

In response to your comment on my talk page, I put New Zealander as ethnicity in the Max Hardcore article because it says he was born in New Zealand. If you don't consider New Zealander an ethnicity, then you can put White or White American, although technically those are just skin colours, not ethnicities. I tried to change the description to "skin color" but it wouldn't show up in the preview. In any case, Caucasian is a disambiguation page, and is a technically incorrect, out-of-date and USA-centric term when referring to all types of white people. The term Caucasian is only technically correct and universally understood when referring to Peoples of the Caucasus, which is a very specific group of people. Spylab 11:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't disagree with removing Caucasian, I have no opinion about that either way. But the article doesn't just say he's from New Zealand; in the very infobox you changed, it lists his birthplace as Wisconsin. Furthermore, on IMDb it lists his birthplace as Wisconsin. That's why I mentioned it, because I don't think it's clear that he's a New Zealander. I thought I made that clear enough in my original message to you, I guess you didn't understand. Anchoress 19:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Olive branch

I think you probably deserve a a slightly expanded explanation for my grumpiness, to which you, unfortunately, have been subject. Some recent discussions by the 'schoolboy' or 'toilet wall' tendency have been annoying the hell out of me (I know you made some attempt to delete one thread before it got underway), but beyond posting a brief and acidy comment, there is not really an awful lot more I can do about this. So your escort posting was all that was needed to tip me over the edge; but, on reflection, I do not think it was that unreasonable. Clio the Muse 09:58, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey, olive branch accepted. Good luck! Anchoress 10:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help with Editor Review

Many thanks for looking into my editor review problem. After posting the comment on the administrators noticeboard I quickly had a brain wave and reverted my edits back to the last edits. I think what I had done is altered something on the page so new edits couldn't be added but luckilly it was quickly sorted. Guess you could say that after that edit it was probably a good thing that my editor review didn't get put on!!! Ryanpostlethwaite 22:06, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

LOL. Good on ya. Glad it got sorted. Good luck with the ER. Anchoress 22:19, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Troll discussion

Thanks for pointing the other username block out. Gah. I suspect we have a case of self-fulfilling prophecy and I'm not sure its reversible. Dina 23:01, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I get you. I'm following the convo on CC's page, will jump in with more comments if they occur to me. I mean, seriously the editor is probably a troll (see this diff and the convo on my talk page), but I still say it's a dubious username indeff. Anchoress 23:09, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re:WP:AN/I

Ok, I'm fine with that. Will readd if it hasn't been already. semper fi — Moe 01:19, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for the quick reply. Anchoress 01:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ref desk cleanup, help needed

As a user who has expressed interest in dealing with misuse of the reference desk, you may be interested in my comments at Wikipedia talk:Reference desk#Where we stand and my new strategy for dealing with the problem at User:SCZenz/Reference desk comments. It will take help from many people in order to make it clear which behaviors aren't appropriate. -- SCZenz 03:13, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Women and Photography

Thank you for raising this, Anchoress. I felt that if I did it would almost certainly have been misconstrued. Besides, I might say that I have such a low opinion of both the intellect and the 'contribitions' of the user in question, that further comment would be superflous; if, that is, I was the kind of person inclined to such remarks. But, of course, I know this would be interpreted as a personal attack and a breach of 'assume good faith;' so I do not. I apologize for the tortured prose. Clio the Muse 19:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, no probs. I think, on another note, that you should be cautious about personal comments directed towards (if not addressed to) other editors; they could be considered a personal attack, even though you're being quite mild. My plan is, rather than letting such people get me down, I just ignore them and stay out of their way. It's a big Wiki, lots of places to contribute without building up too much bad blood. Anchoress 02:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The trouble is they tend to lay themselves across the paths I choose to tread, and I have claws, I must confess. Clio the Muse 06:17, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

LOL well, we all have our buttons, that's for sure. I've lost my head a couple of times. Good luck with the good fight. Anchoress 06:36, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rules for deletion

Would you care to comment on my proposed Ref Desk Rules for Deletion: [3] ? I would like to build a consensus on which rules should be followed. StuRat 07:51, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Under attack

I'm under attack, Anchoress, and it is quite malevolent. Since you have expressed an interest please see my response under the relevant section on the RD talk page. Not to worry: I am young, tough and smart, and I will survive. Clio the Muse 20:46, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'll check it out. Remember, stay frosty and contribute. Life's too short to make enemies online, and being positional cuts off the flow of good edits. Anchoress 20:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Conflict of interest guideline

Regarding your response to my comment at the help desk, I was curious whether you were just admonishing me that WP:COI is a guideline rather than a policy, or was there some other aspect of what I wrote that you thought was problematic? Thanks, Newyorkbrad 02:15, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

No, there wasn't any hidden meaning to my question; I just was pretty sure there wasn't a conflict of interest policy, so I was wondering what you were talking about. I didn't know there was a conflict of interest guideline, by the way. I wasn't being faux naif. :-) Thanks for the reply. Anchoress 02:23, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome, I was just wondering. I assumed at first you just hadn't heard of WP:COI but I didn't want to presume that because you're been editing more than twice as long as I have. Newyorkbrad 02:26, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Lol twice as long, but with half as much attentiveness, no doubt. On another note, I was disappointed to find faux naif isn't a WP article. Maybe it's a regional thing. Anchoress 02:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

No, but it's on Wiktionary here. Newyorkbrad 02:36, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Sweet! Anchoress 02:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

May I vandalise your userpage? This way, you can turn that "11" into a "12" =). Jamesino 02:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Nobody has my permission to vandalise my userpage. And you're a vandal fighter? You should be careful, cuz my page is on a heap of watchlists, if anyone sees you do it they'll drop a warning on ya. Anchoress 03:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please vote on attempt to delete new Ref Desk rules

Vote here: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Reference desk/rules. StuRat 01:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chess ?

I see you are a chess player, would you care to play a game some time ? StuRat 01:46, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I play mostly speed chess on Yahoo. My Yahoo ID is anchoresse. If you see me online and you want to play just IM me. Anchoress 01:55, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I'm no good at speed chess, I play with about 20 mins on the clock. I usually play at Pogo, but I've played at Yahoo, too. StuRat 02:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

OK. Well I'm not so good at long games, but I'd do a 20 minute game with you. Shorter is better, but I don't care that much. Anchoress 02:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thank you for the accolade regarding the Activism at Ohio Wesleyan University page. You noted that you enjoy copyediting. I was wondering if you might help me with some copyedit for the Ohio Wesleyan University page, a page for which I have taken the lead to get it to FA quality. Thanks again for the comment! I appreciate it! WikiprojectOWU 02:54, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah sure, I'll take a look at it in the next couple of days. Anchoress 02:59, 13 December 2006 (UTC)