Talk:Anberlin

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Can someone confirm that they actually are a Christian rock band? splintax (talk) 00:00, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, they get heavy play on Christian radio stations, and they're signed to distinctly Christian Tooth and Nail Records. Their lyrics, while not as explicitly religious as many bands, are definitely Christian-themed. Kertrats 05:15, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Okay, cool. I don't know the band myself, but a friend mentioned them so I looked them up on the wiki and found this, but he didn't know that they were Christian, and seemed to be a fan of sorts. :-\ Thanks for the info. splintax (talk) 10:44, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

== Christian Rock? == and so cool

Just because they are signed to a christian label and are Christian's doesn't mean their genre is Christian Rock. Calling them Christian Rock says nothing about their music style. I read all of the lyrics from their second album and only found one God reference, Black Sabbath make more references but they aren't Christian Metal. What makes this band Christian Rock? In my opinion nothing. This band sings about reltionships and so should be considered some form of emo music rather than some form of christian music.

Much as I despised this argument when it was used against me in my argument to remove Creed from the Christian rock category, the term has been defined at Wikipedia as "a perceived connection to what [self-identified fans of CCM] regard as Christianity". This band is played consistently on Christian radio stations, tours with Christian artists, has Christian lyrics (most notably on the second album the entire song "Paperthin Hymn", I don't know how you managed to miss that in your search). Emo and Christian rock are not mutually exclusive categories; many emo bands are also christian rock bands, Anberlin included. There is absolutely no doubt that Anberlin falls into the loose (in my opinion, overly so, but even by a stricter definition, such as the band saying so themselves, which I think would be a much more logical minimum boundary) restraints we currently have on the definition. Kertrats | Talk 22:46, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Christian Rock argument...

I'm new here, so still have no idea how to use the boards or reply to the correct thread. I was the annonomous poster and now I'm replying. My problem isn't with this band being classed as a christian band the problem is more that there are other 'genre' labels that better fit this band. I'm sure they are happy to classify themselves as christian rock and get played on christian radio but the fact is if they weren't christians then they wouldn't simply be classifed as 'rock' but as 'melodic emo' or something to that effect. The same situation applies to the 'christian metal' band 'still remains'. Sure they are christian and metal but the fact is that says nothing about their music. I think in situations where bands are classified as christian as a genre it would be better to give them more than one genre. They belong in the christian genre because they're christian and belong in other genres because their music sounds that way. It's not a massive problem but if you asked a person to put each song into a genre then christian rock would certenly not be the most common.


You're right. There should have been a more specific label than "Christian Rock" there. I went with your melodic emo, but if somebody who knows more about the band's musical style then me has a better label for it go to it. STAREYe 02:03, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

The First Album contains alot more references to God such as in the song Cadence where the chorus to the song is

"The Closer I come to you

The closer I am to finding God
You're a miracle to me
The closer I come to you
the closer I am to finding God

You're a miracle to me"

Also again with another verse relating to St. Paul and Joan of Arc Newedge14 5:09, November 27 2006

[edit] evanescence?

could there be something linking these two worth noting, and Creed i guess? like, maybe the old christian rock sound should be called christian folk, because it's usually very folk music. but that's original research. i dunno, whatever i guess.

What? I see no link. Explain further. Kertrats | Talk 00:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SxSW - Paperthin Hymn

Is it worth a mention that an MP3 of Paperthin Hymn is included in the torrent of music from South by South West? Peteresch 23:07, 27 March 2006 (UTC)


This article needs citations. Like this statement "The album was praised by critics" Benbenbenben 05:39, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Dylan cover

If you enjoy Bob Dylan, do yourself a very big favor and don't listen to their cover of Like a Rolling Stone. I don't think a group could have perverted it more if they wanted to, imho. jordan 19:36, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Conservative Punk

they were - at one time - included on the conservative punk band list but they disappeared from the list about four weeks later... does anyone know anything certain about the reasons? 193.171.131.241 15:25, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BlueprintsForTheBlackMarket w/ spaces?

Isn't the actual technical name BlueprintsForTheBlackMarket not Blueprints For The Black Market?

[edit] YouTube links

This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed, feel free to ask me on my talk page and I'll review it personally. Thanks. ---J.S (t|c) 04:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Source of name

I'm removing these two conflicting sections for the source of their name, because I can't find a reference for either:

Lead singer Stephen Christian stated in an interview that the band's name "anberlin" was created when he was thinking about cities in Europe he wanted to visit. In his mind he listed "London, Paris, Rome, and Berlin". Stephen thought that "And Berlin" would be a cool name for a band and so when the band was looking for a name Stephen suggested "And Berlin", which was then modified to "anberlin".

The name "Anberlin" stems from the lead singer Stephen Christian (his last name is not really Christian) reading the book 'I Sat Down By the River Padre and Wept. The girl in the story was named Anberlin.

Jpers36 21:11, 12 December 2006 (UTC)