Talk:American upper class

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[edit] Not finished

This article is still under contruction and wihtin a short amount of time will grow to a justified lenght. Thank you. Regards, Signature^brendel 20:16, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV

This article sounds like it was written by a British aristocrat. To think that someone has to be born into money and power to attain it obviously does not acknowledge the existance of individuals such as Oprah Winfrey. "Prestige" is a subjective definition that allows too much room for unnecessary, unwarranted elitism. This comment was added by 68.90.178.213.

Prestige is indeed a subjective term. Famed American Sociologist W. Lloyd Warner, did however, differentiate between the upper-upper and lower-upper class with the latter refering to people like Oprah Winfrey and the former to "old money" such as the Astor family. I personally have not yet spent a lot of time on this article and, guessing from the fact that I am currently busy in real life, won't in the near future. But, do feel free to make suggestions or implement improvements on the article yourself. Best Regards, Signature^brendel 02:53, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, this assumes the premise that there is some sort of inherent class difference when one is born into money and one rises up to it. It would be difficult to deny that there is an "upper class", but a "lower upper class" and "upper upper class" is superfluous and impossible to concretely define. Just because it is published in one man's book does not make it law; otherwise, conspiracy theorists would be more than just conspiracy theorists. Warner was born in an era before World War II and before the civil rights era where classism was rampant, he has many challenges to his LUC/UUC theory evident by his wikipedia page, and perhaps most importantly is his association with the Rockefeller family, which is one of the definitive examples of American blue-blood, so it is extremely likely that he may have been biased towards it.This comment was added by 68.90.178.213.

His ideas are widely accepted. There is no law. There is no one correct theory. Class in American is not a clearly defined concept; rather it is a mish-mash of theories who may contradict each other. Warners theory is due to its being widely published worth mentioning here. There is never a good excuse to leave out a valid theory. That is all the UUC/LUC concept is: a theory. After all that is all there is in regards to class in America: thoeries. That said, I agree we should mention some other theories besdies just Warner on this page-that would make this stub more balanced. Unfortunately I don't have the time right now, but if you have sources and know of other valid theories add them so we can provide our readers with more vantage points on the issue. Regards, Signature^brendel 03:51, 22 October 2006 (UTC)