Talk:Alice Bailey

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[edit] Statement of Tibetan's philosophy

I am currently attempting to develop a coherent statement of the Tibetan's ideas expressed in AAB's books. Obviously this could be approached from many angles, but I believe the most representative is as follows:

  1. The belief of man that he is separate from and independent of his fellow man is an illusion (maya).
  2. When this illusion has been conquered among humans, the current 'evils of society' will all disappear.
  3. Life is a reincarnational series of lessons that inevitably overcome this illusion of separateness, leading to an eventual 'at-one-ment' of the entire planet.

Purists may argue, but I feel that the elimination of maya & glamour (aka at-one-ment) was the primary goal of DK's publicly disseminated writings. However, this is just a formulation, and leaves out quite a bit of interesting ideas, such as the unique formulations of the planes and rays, the 12 'departments' of the Heirarchy, and in fact, the particular characterization of the Heirarchy as an 'invisible brotherhood' of ascended masters. In fact, I'm not even sure this belongs here under AAB, but I'm not convinced DK deserves a separate page (some will argue there is/was no such person), and putting it under 'neo-theosophy' or (my preference) 'trans-Himalayan' would both be neologisms, afaik. Any comments from interested parties will be welcomed. Eaglizard 17:06, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

There is already an extensive page on Djwal Khul but this covers mostly Theosophical sourced descriptions. You could add a section on his teachings as revealed through Alice Bailey. Lumos3 19:24, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. For some reason, I didn't think to look under the name. I wonder why? Eaglizard 22:48, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-Semitism

Something definitely needs to be added about her constant anti-Semitism.

Could you cite a source? I am currently patrolling the occult and metaphysical bio articles for mentions of anti-Semitism and would write this up if some references were provided. Catherineyronwode 02:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Never mind, i found it. I shall write it up now. Thanks for th tip. Catherineyronwode 02:12, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I have read 50-75% of her work, I would not characterize mention of Jews as 'constant', nor as 'anti-', but that is my opinion. This section's criticims are valid, but I do wish to reword them slighty. I have added a rebuttal of sorts, and removed the sentence referencing a "solution" to the "problem", as this formulation deliberately flirts at triggering Godwin's Law.Eaglizard 18:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

She was not anti-semitic! This is a slander. I have studied her books extensively over a period of more than forty years. She has said that the Jews are 'agents of karma.' That puts them in an interesting position which makes a lot of sense to me. Taking America alone, what would our political life be without the Jewish contributors, or what would Hollywood, or American literature, be? Her criticisms of what the Jewish people have done at some points in their history exactly parallel what their own prophets have said. Was Jeremiah anti-Semitic? Hardly! His writings are enshrined in the Tenach, Jewish scriptures, or 'old Testament' as the Christians call it. Yet he continually leveled even worse accusations at them than Alice Bailey did! They had departed from God's plan, they had totally lost their way, and on and on. This is superficial thinking, the accusation of anti-Semitism. It is thoroughly discredited by the fact that her writings, or those of "The Tibetan," were totally anti-Nazi during World War II. Read The Externalization of the Hierarchy. It consists largely of her wartime messages to her students. From the beginning she insisted that the war against Germany must be fought in order to root out a deep evil. She suggested that her students visualize light and harmony between the Germans and the Jews. But she did not compromise on the war and contradicted the pacifists in her group, at great length. She mentioned Gandhi directly, and disagreed with him about the war; he did not want India to get involved, while she thought that the war was a worldwide Kurukshetra parallel to the fight of Arjuna and Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita. --VividHugh 07:59, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Age

Alice Bailey definitely did NOT coin the term New Age. It was in common use well before her time.