Talk:Alice's Restaurant

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[edit] Geographic Information

I happened to be having Thanksgiving in Stockbridge so was curious to try to reproduce the garbage tour. The church, now the Guthrie Center, was easy to find, but the dump was not. The Guthrie Center outlines the route here: [1]. I asked someone at the desk of the local Red Lion Inn and was told that the dump had since moved but that the original dump was located at roughly 42.283294° N 73.334620° W, which more-or-less matches the description given by the Guthrie Center, although there is no sign of a dump at the moment. The Police Officers' Station is still located at 42.283159° N 73.319246° W (on the west end of Main St.).

The restaurant itself is apparently now under the name Theresa's Stockbridge Cafe and located at 40 Main St., Stockbridge, MA. Does anyone have any more information on these locations? —BenFrantzDale 00:12, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Huntingtons Disease

Just removed a reference to Arlo being a carrier of Huntingtons. This is not possible as it is a dominant disease. If you have one copy of the mutation you will become ill.

[edit] Reason for deleting wikidate overlinkage

It's per Wikipedia style guidelines. This from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_%28dates_and_numbers%29#Avoid_overlinking_dates

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[edit] Move?

As the article plainly states, the name of the song is technically "Alice's Restaurant Massacree." Should the article be moved there? Wencer 16:58, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

No, the naming conventions guidelines say that articles should be at their most common name. Putting the full name in the article is not a problem, but putting an article at an uncommon name is. --Dhartung | Talk 20:34, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spoofs?

Is Weird Al's "Mr. Frump in the Iron Lung" really a parody, or doesn't it just use the same tune and nothing more? I recall a short-lived Kodak product, the "Kodak Disc," using the same tune as well for that matter. Шизомби 12:32, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I've listened to Weird Al for years, and when I ran across that statement in this article, I couldn't even figure out why it would be a parody. I just assumed the originator knew something I didn't (shows how much I expect to find good citing, I guess). Now that I think about it, though, I can see how one might think it was a parody, though IIRC, the tunes aren't identical. Extremely close, yes. Identical, no. There's a bit in the melody in Weird Al's that are different from Guthrie's, enough that I didn't relate the two previously, I guess. The signature guitar part from Alice's Restaurant is also missing, I believe (it's been a while since I heard the Weird Al track, though). I'm removing the disputed line for now. The "other performers" bit attached to it probably isn't notable enough to incorporate into the main article (songs are parodied by various performers all the time), but if someone wants to find a place for it, that's fine. --Fru1tbat 20:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Spanq, an early internet radio comediy show, did a parody known as Alice's Rest Stop Listen to It (link Requires RealPlayer) 64.33.177.56 19:19, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

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