Talk:Aircraft flight control systems

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[edit] system

a "system" is a singular entity and does not take a plural number verb. it does not matter that the system is made of more than one component. you do not say "the computer are well-designed" do you, because the computer is made of multiple pieces of hardware? nor do you say, "the water are cold" because of its atomic composition of multiple atoms. please, because of such mistakes in this article, it is difficult to discern what exactly is being described: a single system or multiple systems. 141.211.120.63 14:23, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I believe it's describing the different types of flight control systems. First it describes what a flight control system is, then it describes the different types. I checked all instances of the word system and it appears clear to me; I don't believe there is any misuse of the word. Perhaps what you were talking about has been edited since you posted that comment though, I didn't check the history. 192.76.80.74 01:27, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)


USER:Lockheedengineer The plurality of the word "system" in the defense/aerospace world is possible and generally means "System of Systems" - meaning a network of components (which has a broad meaning), each performing certain specialized functions. It further extends to mean information systems that allow uniform date exchange such as the DOD Architectural Framework (DODAF), or the legacy C4ISR. In other words, a system of systems could mean a network of planes, ships, command centers, etc. from strategic level all the way down to an IC or a resistor on a circuit board or a function in a piece of control software.

[edit] Fly By wire

A fly by wire flight control system is one in which there is no mechanical link from the pilot's controls [stick, throttle, rudder etc.] to the actual control surfaces [rudder, airlerons, elevators and engine etc]. Instead the connection is electronic,usually through a computer. The advantage of this is that the links between the pilot and the controls can be lighter, duplicated and run more conveniently. If a computer is involved then the plane can be programmed to stay within its flight envelope. Advanced planes such as the Eurofighter Typhoon could not be flown by a human alone. Of course, adding a computer to the process can create other problems, and lead to crashes. Most notoriously, the Airbus crash at the Tolouse airshow back in the 90s.

I do not believe that the Vulcan had a fly by wire system, not least because I remember seeing the world's first fully fly by wire aircraft at the Farnborough airshow in the 80s - it was a specially modified Jaguar.

Does fly-by-wire therefore get its name from the wires in the electronics? It would be helpful if this was clarified in the article. --BigBlueFish 09:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Correct, it refers to the fact that all the flying inputs are made electronically, not physically. - CHAIRBOY () 14:26, 10 October 2005 (UTC)


There is something wrong with this statement "first fitted to the Avro Vulcan in the 1940s." Aside from the date I must also add that I have sat in a museum exhibit Vulcan wiggled the rudder and heard the disconnected rod thumping in the fuselage. GraemeLeggett 11:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)