User talk:AfrikaUSA

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Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. sys < in 07:03, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Second warning: Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. sys < in 10:02, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Could you explain it to me, please?

I'd like to understand the deal with the repeted addition of Constantinos Hastopolis to the Greek American page? Maybe you could explain why this person is so notable that you believe he merits inclusion? Who is he, etc. It's much better to discuss this matter than to keep adding and removing the entry. Thanks! Shanes 06:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for explaining. I can understand that you think highly of him and that you feel proud about being the one to honour him by listing him on the page. But I'm still not sure wether he merits inclusion or not. If I were to argue for why he shouldn't be listed I'd say that there are many, many Radio DJ's in the world, I bet there are hundreds of thousand, and we can't list them all. But if you were to argue for why he should be listed, you could point to all the articles in Category:Radio DJs and Category:Radio personalities allready being here and claim that Constantinos is just as notable as many of them.

It's the classic "who is notable enough for Wikipedia, and who isn't" question. We come across it all the time. But how do we solve it in this case?

I don't know for sure, but what all the Radio DJ's mentioned above have in common, is that they already have a whole article about them here on Wikipedia. Your guy doesn't. So I suggest that you try and write one about him. If you can write one good enough that explains why he is popular and notable, then I'll support his inclusion on the list. But until then I think we should leave him out of it. Do you think you can write one? If you need ideas on what to include in it, you can look at some of the articles in Category:Radio DJs and try writing your article in a similar manner. Include the radio-station, when he's on the air, maybe he has a website somewhere you can include and get details from. And so on.

But know that you writing a whole article on him is not a guarantee that it will stay here. Some people are very strict about the level of notability needed for inclusion on wikipedia and might nominate your article for deletion after you've made it. This happens also alot. But if your guy really is quite popular and notable, and you manage to document it in the article, then I bet he'll survive any deletion vote and stay both there and on the Greek American list.

So, what do you say? Are you up for it? Please do ask me if you have any question about this or other things. Shanes 04:55, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Defining 'Notable'

Being "Notable" is sometimes hard to define - to avoid edit wars on the issue, there has to be a quantifiable way to determine how well-known someone is. The most common practice is by counting Google hits, esp. hits on mainstream media articles. "Haas" has not build up this kind of reputation yet. Last time I checked, I wasn't even able to find him on the WRCQ page (Try googleing for "haas site:www.rock103rocks.com"). If you really admire "Haas" you should try to think of effective ways to promote him, first in the local listening area and then nationwide; getting his name involved in a silly edit war on WP won't help him at all.

BTW, are you sure about the spelling of his last name? Hasopolis is not a properly spelled Greek surname, and Google and both the US & Greece white pages don't list anyone by that last name. I noticed you typed "Hasapis" instead of "Hasopolis" a couple of times, and then corrected it, is that his real name? sys < in 07:35, 16 February 2006 (UTC)