Talk:African elephant
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[edit] Protection
Isn't it time that this page be unprotected and get a Trivia section, including Babar and the Colbert Situation? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Sporadic Update (talk • contribs) .
- No. There's no need for listing Colbert in this article. It is approprite to list the Wiki Colbert spam incident only on his articles. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
- Well, at least Babar should be mentioned, even so. (and sorry i didn't sign my comment; i forgot to click the thing)--The Sporadic Update 20:10, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Um, so... why exactly is a mention of the Colbert story inappropriate on this page? 'Cause, uh, Bears gets one... In fact, most major animal articles have "___ in Popular Culture" as a section (Tigers, Squirrels, Cows and many others). Personally, I don't think it's fair to deny the African Elephant it's spot in popular culture as created by the Colbert Report. Crazynorvegian 22:22, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- Because WP:ASR. Demiurge 22:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, point taken. And of course, as if to further spite me, this specific example just HAS to be cited in the WP:ASR article itself... Crazynorvegian 23:42, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- Because WP:ASR. Demiurge 22:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- Um, so... why exactly is a mention of the Colbert story inappropriate on this page? 'Cause, uh, Bears gets one... In fact, most major animal articles have "___ in Popular Culture" as a section (Tigers, Squirrels, Cows and many others). Personally, I don't think it's fair to deny the African Elephant it's spot in popular culture as created by the Colbert Report. Crazynorvegian 22:22, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Who really named it Loxodonta ??
From the introduction: Although it is commonly believed that the genus was named by Georges Cuvier in 1825, Cuvier spelled it Loxodonte. An anonymous author romanized the spelling to Loxodonta and the ICZN recognizes this as the proper authority
The references I can find online record (Blumenbach, 1797) as the author of this name eg [1] It appears to me that Cuvier may have mispelt it, but that would explain the anonymous correction back to Laxodonta. And does ICZN recognizes this as the proper authority mean they recognise Cuvier or that they recognise Loxodonta (is there an online copy of the ICNZ authority for this). This ref seems to say ICNZ doesn't accept Cuvier [2] ??? --AGoon 22:56, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
- Corrct. Cuvier made a mistake, and the ICZN accepts the anonymous authority over Cuvier. The MSW reference you cite is both out of date and note saying what you think it is saying. It says Cubier, and that Blumenbach is the authority for the type species. MSW3 correct this and properly credits Anonymous, and explains this all much as in our article. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:15, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- My confusiion was not being familiar with the way things are described on the MSW pages. I saw that Blumenbach named it in 1797 and didn't understand why he wasn't given credit. I now see he named it Elephas africanus not Loxodonta. --AGoon 21:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- You are still confused. Each genus has a type species. Before Loxodonta, all elephant speces were in Elephas. Cuvier came around ad said, "What ho! These elephants from Africa are significantly different than those elephants in Asia. I hold up this species Elephas africanus as typifying of the African species." Blumenbach had already named that species, which is now Loxodonta africana. But, as we said before, Cuvier gt the naming wrong, and he was anonymously corrected. - UtherSRG (talk) 22:31, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- Please do not edit my posts to a discussion forum even when I'm wrong!, of course you are welcome to post followup corrections :-). Thankyou, my confusion stems from comparing infoboxes for the African Elephant to similar wikipedia pages in other languages. I've finally realised that my problem is that I've been comparing this African Elephant genus page with those for the African_Bush_Elephant species on other language wikipedia pages. Perhaps we need a photo illustrating the two species on this page. Oh well, I've learned something :-) --AGoon 01:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- You are still confused. Each genus has a type species. Before Loxodonta, all elephant speces were in Elephas. Cuvier came around ad said, "What ho! These elephants from Africa are significantly different than those elephants in Asia. I hold up this species Elephas africanus as typifying of the African species." Blumenbach had already named that species, which is now Loxodonta africana. But, as we said before, Cuvier gt the naming wrong, and he was anonymously corrected. - UtherSRG (talk) 22:31, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- My confusiion was not being familiar with the way things are described on the MSW pages. I saw that Blumenbach named it in 1797 and didn't understand why he wasn't given credit. I now see he named it Elephas africanus not Loxodonta. --AGoon 21:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Current Events
Removed tag about current events as there is no information currently in the article about a current event. Once information that will be rapidly changes is added, I'll put the tag back Pnkrockr 15:33, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Conservation
Meaning was lost due to poor sentence structure. Fixed grammar and sentence structure. Ms. Landau 15:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] sorry, semi-protection broke the bot...
could you please remove one of the double {{Link FA|fi}} thanks - Mandavi —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.191.47.162 (talk • contribs) .
[edit] Re-semiprotected
I've re-semiprotected the article, after it was vandalized 12 times in the last day. -- Fuzheado | Talk 15:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
