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[edit] Welcome Template

Need to get this project kick started - have requested on the template Welcome's talk page that a link to Adopt-a-User is put in. Surely that would be best to attract new users especially as this template is often used. Cheers Lethaniol 17:44, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Have put in a further argument on this issue talk page. Lethaniol 18:20, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help:Contents

Have a link to WP:Adopt from Help:Contents. Lethaniol 15:43, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

This was removed as "unessential" - please follow help with discussion at Help talk:Contents. Lethaniol 18:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Whoa, Lethaniol!

That's a lot of headings created by you. Good work, though. Thanks. ~ Flameviper 19:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry did not realise I created so many headings - but I think each of the issues is important - and might deserve separate comments. Am really enthusiastic about this project - so you need anything doing leave a note on my talk page :):) Lethaniol 23:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I just got adopted and i think this program kicks ars thanks--"P-Machine" 07:28, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notifying new users of Adopt-a-User

Is it permissible to inform new (good) users of the existence of Adopt-a-User, and recommend them to join? I notice many good new users out there who need help, but don't know that this project exists, and would probably benefit the most from it. –- kungming·2 (Talk) 07:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely. I have adopted two users, and since doing so, which is not all that long, I have had three new editors come to me with perfectly sensible questions which an adopter could have helped them with. I sorted them out, of course, but my point is that they were wholly unaware of the WP:ADOPT scheme.--Anthony.bradbury 14:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I have also adopted two users (though unfortunately one turned out to be a sockppuppet of a permanently banned user) but found they weere both relatively experienced. Adoption should be targeted to the newest of users - and I see no problem in proactive in getting new adoptees A.Bradbury. If you dont want more adoptions you can always point them to WP:Adopt
See above, but I did recommend that WP:Adopt be part of the welcome template. OR we could change some of the warning templates to get more adoptions (though this might lead to more vandalism). Any other ideas people on how to advertise. Lethaniol 16:57, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I was(am) adopted by Lethaniol the adopting god, and I guess my editing style was, well, as he put it "relatively experienced". To be honest, I was not all that experienced, but with Lethaniol's help, I quickly learned some of the "tricks of the trade" on how to become a better editor. The most important thing that Lethaniol taught me was that I should be ALWAYS ready to learn something new from ANYONE trustable and more experienced.
I took his advise and learned from the admin of the US History project, among others. Lethaniol really was(is) a GREAT mentor - I'm very glad that he adopted me and was willing to put up with my somewhat, um, unique, sense of humor and writing style....
oops.... forgot to sign: NDCompuGeek 20:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Important - Future of Adopt-a-user

I, Flameviper, am the founder of this project. Unfortunately, I am currently busy in Real Life and won't be able to take care of Wikipedia things. Thus, I bequeath the title of adoption-master upon a successor. Who will be the new leader? I leave that to you. Good luck, ~ Flameviper 16:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Things to do

As our founder has left us with the running of WP:Adopt, I suggest we come up with a list of things to do, so that the project can have some direction and progress goals. I will start with three suggestions, please add, remove, comment as necessary. Thanks Lethaniol 15:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  1. To finish the adopter criteria at this page.
    1.a.: Decide whether the "rules" are actually rule or guidelines, if we want them. Also figure out how strict, how to enforce them, how to decide "punishment"/"reward", etc.
    1.b.: Decide when to start to enforce them and create deadline for discussion to end.
    2.a.: If rules/guidelines don't become accepted, decide how this project is to be run
    2.b.: Repeat: #:1.a.:, #:1.b.:, and (maybe) #:2.b.: until majority is happy.
  2. To increase Adoption awareness - by advertisement e.g. Wikipedia Newsletter, word of mouth and links to the project from places where new users will see e.g. help pages, welcome template etc...
    To increase number of adoptees to over 100 and adopters to over 50, currently 68 adoptees and 30 adopters at 15:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
    Figure out how to advertise and increase numbers.
  3. Maybe create a page or common problems for new users and a place where a new user can post a question to all adopters. Kind of like the Help Desk or the {{{helpme}} but specifically to us (also have specific help instead of leaving a template on their talk). On this page we should have the question, the answer, and other comments or further questions posed which stemmed from this question. We should also have the answer left on the new user's talk page to make sure they get it.
    We probably should tell them how to respond to the user who helped them here because I've met some new users who didn't know how to do this.
    From an adoptee POV, what about naming the adoptee help desk {{{adopteehelp}}}? Appropriate, and easy to remember.... NDCompuGeek 20:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  4. Select a leader,if we haven't already, though I think we agree with Lethaniol being the leader. Also, confirm the name, some concerns are posted above or the archive (see below) about this.
  5. Find a page for these project needs and their answers. Such as: Wikipedia talk:Adopt-a-User/To-Do List/future of Adopt-a-User.

—¡Randfan! 20:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Good Idea - once we get a few more thoughts down here I think we should then move it. Lethaniol 12:19, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criteria.

Looking at the Wikipedia talk:Adopt-a-User/Criteria/Discussion fo exact rules, it seems we can all agree that:

  • Adopters should be available often to help their adoptee(s).
  • Adopters do not have to be members of Esperanza, Concordia, or Kindness Campaign.
  • Adopters should not be current adoptees. (added current as I think that is what is meant Lethaniol 12:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC))
  • Adoptees only need to have one Adopter (though they can have more).

I think also clear that agreement on the following but with the specific to be sorted:

  • Adopters should not have any recent blocks or too many vandal warnings. (need to decide on length of time/number)
  • Adopters should have a minimum number of edits (need to decide on number and if location important)

[edit] discussion

Have written up these decisions on Wikipedia talk:Adopt-a-User/Criteria/Discussion fo exact rules, please read and comment if you oppose. Lethaniol 12:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Have added a note to that on the page, see that one if you want. —¡Randfan! 21:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
For the block guideine, I say we should have it somwhere from 45 days-3 months, though probably on the lower side. —¡Randfan! 21:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Leader and hierarchy

As for choosing a "leader", who says we need one in the first place? Is Jimbo our leader? Wikis are collaborative and work by compromise and consensus. I don't think anything needs to change just because Flameviper, or any of us, gets busy. --Daniel Olsen 00:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree (though I am flattered Randfan) - I don't believe that we should have a leader, or any hierarchy at all, and we should (like we have been anyway) aim for consensus. We need to have a group of users though who are happy to help out with the admin of Adopt-a-user - I being one of them am happy to any (but not all) of the dog's work :):) Lethaniol 12:19, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I too think we should follow this but I had afriend who was looking over my shoulder as I was doing this and sugggested that I pt it down. He saidwe don't have to follow it but it didn't hurt to put it in there. I agreed and added, I don't think it should be decided by any one person and didn't see any harm so I added it. Of course that is quite hypocritical,on my part, due to the criteria thing :)... —¡Randfan! 21:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] archiving

I've just put Wednabot on the job to archive this page. I thought it was kind of long and should have an archive, even if I'm being a little preemptive. Do you think it was a good idea? —¡Randfan! 19:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Fine by me Lethaniol 19:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Me too, obviously... —¡Randfan! 20:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] After adopting...

Should we have something specific to do once we've adopted? I've been asking my adoptees if they need any help, so far with no reply, but maybe, as been mentioned before, we should have a certain page for questions as well as the adopters' talk pages. The only problem with this is that it would quickly become something like the Newcomers' Help Page, so what would be different about this page that would merit its creation? This also gets over the sort of awkwardness of personally contacting someone. Just an idea- CattleGirl talk | e@ 02:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I, too support this idea (see aove for suggestion). —¡Randfan! 02:40, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help space for Adopters

Hi guys - I am going to act on this soon unless there is some major issues.

I think a subpage where Adopters can put there experiences down, how they dealt with it, and whether anyone has any suggestions would be a good. I think this should be separate from the talk page, so that it is easier to navigate and does not get archived (would be able to manually sort it into different categories of problems).

In case any one is interested - I will be adding my dealings with suspected sockpupper adoptees - my first adoptee was banned for being a sockpuppet of a user who was banned for issueing death threats , my third adoptee is in the process of having a sockpuppet action gaining force againist them. Ah what a life... See my talk page :) Lethaniol 18:11, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I like this idea (maybe we should have this and the thing above combined) and I have two adoptees (friends in real life, actually) and I want to help them but there never on. Should I "drop" them? This should probably be moved to that page. Oh, and it shold be called something like: wikipedia talk:Adopt-a-User/archives/diary/experiences and if the proposed page above is to be created but under another name it should probably be: wikipedia talk:Adopt-a-User/archives/diary/questions and answers. —¡Randfan! 00:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I was logged out onto a shaed network IP. —¡Randfan! 00:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Hey I don't think there is any hard and fast rules as yet. Personally if I had 2 relatively inactive users, I would keep them on as Adoptees, and adopt others if I wanted. I don't think it is about how many adoptions you have, but about being able to help out the adoptee out appropriately. So if you take on a high-maintenance Adoptee it would be irresponsible and unfair to take on another until that one finds it feet. If you have x mature Adoptee who only need occasional help you may feel you can take on another. Hope that helps
I will add the issue you have brought up to such a page when it gets created - I think this is the sort of thing that will happen often. Cheers Lethaniol 00:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! —¡Randfan! 01:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I think these are some really good ideas. If you've adopted users that are relatively inactive then there's nothing that should impair your 'adopting ability' (trying to think of a better term, hopefully you know what I mean) with more users. I agree that we should have a page for our experiences- CattleGirl talk | e@ 02:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to start a page, as it seems to be a very good idea- find it at Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User/experiences . Edit it there- and you may like to add more of an introduction as well- CattleGirl talk | e@ 02:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I thought it would be a good idea to create space where all the information for Adopters can be found see Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User/Adopter's Area, the Experiences bit is a sub page of this Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User/Adopter's Area/Experiences Lethaniol 13:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC) Now is this a good idea, or should all this information / links just be on the mainpage - i.e. is the subpage unnecessary? Cheers Lethaniol 14:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I think we should keep it this way, though I must say, I would have liked it to ention "Diary" because that is a place where one is able to record their experiences... But this diary would be accessible to the public so they can use it as an "advise column". Should we sort it (meaning the Experiences page) all into "Adoptee issues", "Adopter issues", "Both" or something like that. For example, what we have currently could be cassified under "Adoptee isssues".... —¡Randfan! 21:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] link on main page?

Should we have a place on the main page like: {{/box-header|''Adopter's Area''|{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Adopter's Area|}} {{Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User/Adopter's Area}} {{/box-footer|}}

Or something... —¡Randfan! 21:41, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I did and reverted it and did again and reverted it... If someone can do it correctly, lease do so. —¡Randfan! 21:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
What exactly are you trying to add? --Daniel Olsen 04:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind, I figured it out. Does the links section at the bottom of the page work? Otherwise the adopter's experiences page would rather overwhelm our nice pretty formatting nad make ugly subtables. --Daniel Olsen 05:04, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving this discussion

I propose that we do as the title says, for it's getting long and will be easier to check recent edits/comments/questions/answers to it if we do so. I will at the end of the UTC day, today, if no one objects. We can always revert and delete the other page... —¡Randfan! 21:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

On this issue of setting up the Adopter's area, I was thinking of waiting a few days - spending some more time developing/constructing the area - then linking from main page and leaving a note on every Adopter's page about the new area, asking them to visit and contribute. What do you think?
Also other areas to possibly add to Adopter's Area:
  1. Adopter's tools including templates and common reference sources.
  2. Future of Adopt-a-User and Things to do - though might want to mirror onto the main talk page.

Cheers Lethaniol 00:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Ditto. —¡Randfan! 17:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Offensive talk page notice?

What kinds of mixed messages are you trying to send here? This talk page uses red "shouting" at the readers as the very first thing they see. I would think a page like this would use something more refined, like {{consensus}} Rfrisbietalk 20:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree. If anyone disagrees, it can always be changed back. - Che Nuevara 00:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree looks better, thanks Lethaniol 11:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Ditto. —¡Randfan! 01:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome templates

The suggestion that a link to WP:ADOPT be included in the {{welcome}} templates has been suggested here by several users over several months. But it has not happened. I cannot see anywhere any negative comment, so why hasn't it happened? Who ultimately can decide the format of major templates such as these? And have they been asked to change them? Or can they be asked? So many questions, so few answers.--Anthony.bradbury 00:34, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

See Help talk:Contents and Template talk:Welcome. --Daniel Olsen 06:01, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Also, if you've got your own custom welcome template (like I do), you can of course at it there. - Che Nuevara 06:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Have asked on both pages - the Help:Contents can be edited by anyone, but the Template:Welcome seems to be Admin only. Could probably do with some help in the discussion at Help talk:Contents Lethaniol 11:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Also see discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#WP:ADOPT which Anthony.B start up, cheers Lethaniol 15:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Che, we haven't all got our own customised welcome page, though I may come and steal yours (unless you object). I would like to see the prompt included routinely on every welcome template.--Anthony.bradbury 20:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

If you look at the mainpage WP:ADOPT have made a slightly altered welcome template for use by anyone, though I would not suggest using subst as of yet Template:Adopt-a-User Welcome Cheers Lethaniol 00:05, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adoption or Sponsor or Mentor?

I think this is a great idea, but I have concern about the choice of the word adoption over sponsor. Adoption, in the sense of building families, is a permanent act. It creates what are known to some adoptive parents and children as forever families. I'd rather see the term Sponsor used. (I get the same way when people talk about adopting members of the military who are deployed overseas as well.) Just my two cents. --EarthPerson 00:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I think changing the name of the program could have some strange consequences, but the title of the person (id est: Adopter/Adoptee) could work. I think Mentor might work... —¡Randfan! 00:49, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
It's funny that you suggested Mentor. I thought of the same thing not five minutes after I'd posted, but was already done for the day. --EarthPerson 15:28, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I think the name's fine- I see what you mean about how adoption implies more of a permanent thing, but on the project page we can see it's not. I think we should leave it how it is, however I must say we can perhaps play up the mentoring side of the project rather than the adopting side. CattleGirl talk | e@ 02:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your thoughts. I wish I'd found this earlier and could have suggested it earlier. --EarthPerson 15:28, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree with CattleGirl. We could change some of the templates/welcome messages etc... to explain that adoption is a mentoring program - but I am not sure about changing titles like Adoptee to Mentee and Adopter to Mentor. Lethaniol 15:43, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm good with that. —¡Randfan! 21:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
As an adoptee, I feel relatively permanently linked to Lethaniol the adopter god - but because of what he has taught me and shown to me through this program, not because of a stupid title. To be completely honest, I hope that Lethaniol and I will continue this relationship - mainly because I'm sure I will always have questions, and he will always have "seniority" on me! NDCompuGeek 06:31, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Lol - I wish that was true - anyway when I finish my PhD and go to work in real world I suspect I will have less time for Wikipedia - sulk - then ND will gain more experience than I. Anyway that is not what Wikipedia is about - though experience matters in completing technical matters, more important is that everyone is equal with respect to their opinions, and even the newest of users can bring new information or have the best solution to a problem. Cheers Lethaniol 14:28, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
On a slightly different issue, I think there comes a point where adoptees should be encouraged to brave it on their own and even start adopting themselves. Hopefully the relationship will remain - and questions can be asked both ways. Lethaniol 14:28, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Excessive adoption?

I have come across a user, or to be fair the user has been pointed out to me, who has adopted seven new users. The Adopter in question whom i will name on this page if any editor asks me to, has a total of 448 edits of all kinds at this time. I question whether this indicates a broad enough basis of experience to adopt anyone, let alone seven. One of his/her adoptees has come to me with help with a problem, being unable to get advice elsewhere.

I really feel that we should set minimum standards of experience for adopters. I know that this has been discussed elsewhere, but it needs to looked at urgently. I would suggest not less than 1,500 edits, excluding edits to the editor's own pages; at least six months editing; and no blocks (except fault-free autoblocks) for at least six months. There should also be a limit of say three adoptees per adopter at any one time. Comments, folks?--Anthony.bradbury 20:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I think you set your standards are very high - if you got time also comment at Wikipedia talk:Adopt-a-User/Criteria/Discussion fo exact rules we can help push through the standards we expect of Adopters. I think the real issues that will come out of it are:
  1. How long part of/how many edits/in what areas of wikipedia do we expect of our Adopters?
  2. Are they rules or guidelines?
  3. If we make them rules how do we enforce?
  4. If we make them guidelines when do we tell an adoptee / adopter about an inappropriate situation
  5. And finally who has the dirty job of doing this enforcement.
In this case Anthony, I suppose I would suggest having a chat with the Adopter concerned - being honest that a concern has been raised, but ask how the adoption process is working for them - without being to aggressive (blimey am I saying that?!?!) Cheers Lethaniol 00:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I found one user who has 22. Now that's excessive. --EarthPerson 02:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

23. What's excessive about it? I'm on frequently and love to help. --Daniel Olsen 04:04, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Nothing I suppose. There was no offense intended. My post here was simply a reply to Anthony.bradbury's post. Glad you are willing to help. But, I think I'll be taking this page off my watch list. It's nothing anyone has said; I simply object to the term adoption used in this context. I do find it odd that I'm the only one. --EarthPerson 04:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page2

Does anyone know why we have a second duplicate page of this project - see Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User/Page2. Cheers Lethaniol 18:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I didn't even know it existed.... —¡Randfan! 00:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Maybe for tests?.... —¡Randfan! 22:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Anyone mind if it's deleted? Deleted. Was just a sandbox for formatting tests. --Daniel Olsen 04:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

The cateogries are a great way to find people involved with wikipedia or people to adopt, but we have to be careful to keep project pages out of them. I recently edited Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User/Templates to effectively subst the templates and keep them, as well as edit the main project page to remove another incorrect category link. Please keep these things in mind and always remember to change the {{Adoptme}} userbox to {{adoptee|Your Username}} when adopting so that other adopters don't get confused and accidentally try to adopt a user who's already been adopted. Happy editing, and happy adopting! --Daniel Olsen 05:14, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criteria

I think it's time to make a decision on the criteria found at Wikipedia talk:Adopt-a-User/Criteria/Discussion fo exact rules. The criteria listed have been there for a while, longer than the original 15 days, and there seems to be a consensus on most, if not all. Anyone else think it's ok? Just wanted to make sure- CattleGirl talk | e@ 05:29, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree. —¡Randfan! 17:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I as well.--SUIT 21:36, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Agree. –- kungming·2 (Talk) 05:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I've gone through the page and have done either an approved/not approved/no consensus 'ruling', however feel free to discuss it more here- we also need some more input on the no consensus ones. We also need more input on Note 1. CattleGirl talk | e@ 10:02, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks CattleGirl - I hope I have not stepped on your feet but I have basically archived the two current discussions, written up the consensus points and started debates on the specific issues that need to be resolved. If I have done wrong then add/change the info.
So people please go to Wikipedia talk:Adopt-a-User/Criteria, vote on the proposed criteria, raise any objections, and hopefully we can put this baby to bed soon. Cheers Lethaniol 13:54, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
That's great, Lethaniol. Looks like we've almost established our criteria! CattleGirl talk | e@ 06:25, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tidy up Main Page

Have tidied up main page - so all the boxes look well formatted. Merged the two links boxes. But beware not great at code so may not be perfect :( - seems to work for me though on firefox 2 and IE 7. Cheers. Will hopefully get to expanding Adopter's Area now too - will add a Useful Information section - including template subsection. Lethaniol 15:44, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Adoption program addition to "Welcome to Wikipedia" new user message

Everyone knows that new Wikipedians receive a welcome message on their talk page. It would be nice if a link to the adoption program were included in that initial message. CyberAnth 07:59, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I see this has already been brought up at Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User/Adopter's_Area/Future#Welcome_templates. -- CyberAnth 08:01, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Ah, but only new users that other suers have noticed AND sent a welcome message recieve one- another thing that would be good to work on, although there is a project on this already- Wikipedia:Welcoming Committee. CattleGirl talk | e@ 08:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome Idea

  • Lightbulb* IDEA! Ok, we've all been talking about how to get more users interested in the program, especially new users... Suggestions have been made to put it onto the official welcome templates, however we forget that there is something else we can do... our own personal messages! I propose that we create an Adopt-a-User welcome message that's extremely similar to the usual ones, except with a mention to the project in it. Discussion? CattleGirl talk | e@ 08:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Have made a slightly altered welcome template for use by anyone, Template:Adopt-a-User Welcome, it should be substituted Cheers Lethaniol 14:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Have added it to the following page - Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User/Adopter's Area/Resources - which is Linked off Adopter's Area. Please add to the page as I am sure there is lots missing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lethaniol (talk • contribs) 19:28, 11 December 2006 (UTC). Go away bot - I went back to sign - literally two seconds - and got in conflict with this bot - oh well - :):) Lethaniol 19:29, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adoptee's area

Started a new subject on the creation of an Adoptee's area similar to the one we are creating for Adopters - see Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User/Adopter's Area/Future#Adoptee's Area Cheers Lethaniol 18:27, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Adopting

I have fiddled with the Template:Adopting so that there is a link to the category of Adoptme users - so to make it easier for adopters to check if there is anyone needing adoption. I have tried my best. If anyone else can think of a way to write this in three lines have a go :) Lethaniol 12:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah Flameviper has made a useful alteration, certainly makes it look "nicer" Lethaniol 16:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pride

Have just noticed that the Portuguese wiki has taken on the idea of Adopt-a-User - thought everyone would like to known - see pt:Wikipedia:Tutoria. Cheers Lethaniol 16:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

That's REALLY good- I've noticed more and more users are becoming interested in the project- it's really lifting off. Well done on all your efforts, everyone- this is working REALLY well. CattleGirl talk | e@ 06:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criteria

Since we have unanimous support of the rules in their current version, I was bold and updated the main page. --Daniel Olsen 04:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that- CattleGirl talk | e@ 06:37, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes I think we reached consensus - have rewritten the main page version a bit - corrected block duration to 6 months and added vandalism. Also noted that was guideline and if someone did not meet then should ask on this talk page.
Cheers Lethaniol 10:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay have updated the Adopter's Area too - with a bit more info too. Also have taken snapshots of the current adopters and users wanting to adopt, so can check new ones as they join.

Current Adopters:

  • User:Amarkov
  • User:Anthony cfc
  • User:Anthony.bradbury
  • User:CattleGirl
  • User:Chris is me
  • User:Culverin
  • User:Daniel Olsen
  • User:DarknessLord
  • User:Dfrg.msc
  • User:Editor at Large
  • User:Flameviper
  • User:Hunterd
  • User:JoeSmack
  • User:Kungming2
  • User:Leon2323
  • User:Lethaniol
  • User:Llama man
  • User:Lovelaughterlife
  • User:Mikedk9109
  • User:NCurse
  • User:Pedant
  • User:Randfan
  • User:Rat235478683
  • User:ReverendG
  • User:Rockpocket
  • User:Ryanpostlethwaite
  • User:SUIT
  • User:Samsara
  • User:SaturnYoshi
  • User:Stevenfruitsmaak
  • User:The Hybrid
  • User:Valrith
  • User:VodkaJazz

This is information only: Out of these users all but 2 meet the 500 edits (the vast majority are well over 1000), and these two have 451 and 435 edits each - so I do not think there is any worry there.

Adopters seeking Adoptees (duplicates removed):

  • User:CJ King
  • User:ChrisGriswold
  • User:CyberAnth
  • User:Emperork
  • User:Hello2112
  • User:It's-is-not-a-genitive
  • User:Miller17CU94
  • User:Mr Rookles
  • User:Philc 0780
  • User:Skully Collins
  • User:Tomtheman5
  • User:Gray Porpoise
  • User:Lawilkin
  • User:Walter Humala
  • User:Xiner

This is information only: Out of these users all but 2 meet the 500 edits (again the vast majority are well over 1000), and of those one has 204 edits, and one has 15 edits. I have taken the liberty of contacting the user with 15 edits and asking if they meant that they wanted to be adopted (have removed their adopting template for time being). I am not sure whether to contact the user with 204 edits or not (note of those 204 - 68 are of their Userpage, but 108 are of Mainspace).

Great! Good job, all! —¡Randfan! 21:00, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Absent adopter

Hello everyone, I’ve been recently adopted by a very nice and helpful adopter, but the problem is that he’s paying very little attention to me. I was adopted over a month ago and so far he responds to my queries after an average of 3 to 4 days, last massage was posted a week ago, and to this moment didn’t receive an answer. The adopter is very kind and informative, but since I’m here almost everyday I’d rather have someone more available to adopt me. I don’t know what I can do about it, I don’t want to offend my adopter. Does anyone have any suggestions? By the way, at this point I’d prefer to stay anonymous, thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.230.191.25 (talk) 22:43, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

My suggestion = explain to your adopter that though they are really helpful, that because they are not on all the time, but you are, that you would like a co-adopter (a second user to adopt you), so you can ask that user a questions if the other is not around. A number of adoptees have more than one adopter - either to help out a new adopter, or because an adopter is not around all that often. So if you want a second adopter - just put the Template:Adoptme back on your userpage, check with any new adopter that they are on regularly, and away you go. Hope that helps :):) Lethaniol 23:57, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
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