Talk:Adoptionism
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Is this doctrine incompatible with the Virgin Birth? If he were born fully man, wouldn't God have chosen him rather than supernaturally create him? Facts? Opinions? Darkhorse82 22:01, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] merge
The difference is only one of spelling. The info at the more uncommon spelling (-tian-) should be merged into this article. In addition, the article needs to be re-written for clarity and accuracy. --TheLimbicOne(talk) 20:07, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] clarity
The implication of the two articles is that adoptionism and adoptianism have exactly opposite starting points. If this is correct, the difference is not merely one of spelling. Both describe Jesus as being dual-natured but that the duality occurs some time into Jesus' life. However, that is as far as the similarities go. Technically, the geneologies of Jesus are also incompatible with the Virgin Birth, as they trace from Joseph and Joseph would not have been involved. Of course, part of the problem is that existing material is highly fragmented and the translations don't always agree. Further, the Infancy Gospels seem to be much too late and much too foreign in nature to be of any use, and they're the only existant documents that talk about the period of Jesus' life that could answer the puzzle.
As for merging the articles, I think that would be a good idea. BUT - and I believe this is important - I think it should be generalized within reason. There were many, many sects and breakaway movements over the first eight or nine hundred years. It is almost inevitable that some will overlap with adoptionism/adoptianism to a greater or lesser degree. It might be helpful to define a class of theories which can be meaningfully grouped together. On the other hand, if the articles would be better kept separate, a topic index page that defines the set would likely be very useful.
- Just one question before I consider merging these articles: If the two define different views on Jesus Christ, then shouldn't that be reason enough to not merge them? Kareeser|Talk! 23:45, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] delete it....
this second article is pretty much a waste and doesn't have as much info.
That's all.
[edit] Non-neutral insert
I'm reverting a great deal of non-substantiated claims, including an explicit appeal, "Should a Christian follow the more primitive belief of adoptionism or the more develeped Preexistence-Incarnation christology? Is the latter a newer and more advanced inspiration or a deviaton from the original and more genuine christian faith? That is a question any serious Christian should be meditating." Goldfritha 21:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] References?
Much of the material about the development of adoptionism seem to rely entirely on an uncited work by Bart Ehrman. Anyone mind if I take a stab at a re-write - maybe something that incorporates views other than Ehrman's? Pastordavid 21:39, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
- Go for it. --Mikebrand 01:11, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
