Wikipedia talk:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR

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For some strange reason, this was set to #Redirect Wikipedia talk:Administrators' noticeboard - I think as a result of a page move. I don't see why its a useful redirect - discussion of the recent Deuterium/Nescott problem should have been here. So I'm restoring it William M. Connolley 12:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

All the talk pages of noticeboard subpages redirect to the main noticeboard talk page. That probably makes sense for AN and ANI but not here. Thatcher131 (talk) 16:19, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Report example 2 Archiving 3 No idea what happened 4 Not archiving 5 Hello, 6 Following talk page guidelines? 7 What to do in this case 8 Question... 9 an automated system?

[edit] Report example

This had it's own heading previously which made it easy to start a new report. Was this removed by someone intentionally to faciliate reporting in some way? (→Netscott) 18:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving

I've noticed that this page often becomes excessively long (probably very difficult to load for those on dial-up). I'd propose that we agressively archive all reports with an administrative response. Any comments? alphaChimp^(talk) 08:45, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Good idea. Perhaps we could get that Werdnabot onto it? William M. Connolley 07:47, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure werdnabot would work, given that we use subtitles instead of titles. alphaChimp^(talk) 18:52, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

...for suitable values of "aggressive". I suggest leaving handled cases up for a day or two, so that people can easily find out what happend, and to allow for a reasonable discussion perid. --Stephan Schulz 08:08, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure this really is an appropriate venue for "discussion". The scope of comments (IMHO) should be specifically limited to whether or not the user in question violated 3RR and the details of that violation. All too often this page deteriorates into accusations of vandalism and direct personal attacks.

That said, I'd agree that reports should remain up for about a day or so, at least long enough for them to be viewed by the reported party. alphaChimp^(talk) 18:52, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

I just put Werdnabot on it. Let's see how this goes. I've set it to archive sections older than 3 days. Alphachimp 00:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm. Nothing happened. I've left a request on Voice of All's talk page to see if he's interested in getting VoABot involved. Alphachimp 14:39, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

How about we just don't archive at all and run it like the similar noticeboards, like RFI and PAIN. It is much easier to see what needs to be done if every item on the page is something that needs to be acted upon, and to simply remove any that have been acted upon. —Centrx→talk • 03:14, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No idea what happened

This process is not very intuitive. I have no idea why, when I followed the directions, my report did not appear on the main wiki project page, yet it appears in the current history? This is all quite confusing Ernham 19:57, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I've fixed the above. Mark83 23:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not archiving

I put this above but maybe a new section will get some attention. How about we do not archive this page, and deal with it in the manner of WP:PAIN and WP:RFI, deleting entries after a short period of time when they are complete. This is simpler to see what issues need resolving, and wastes no time picking through entries to archive them. There is little need to keep this information, if anyone searches through it anyway; problem users have a record of being blocked or a warning on their talk page. —Centrx→talk • 16:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

or WP:RFPP.... 3RR Reports could be used as evidence in arbcom proceedings. That's my only real concern. Alphachimp 16:55, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello,

please, where can I receive advice on this dispute?:

< http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harold_Ford%2C_Jr.&diff=83580851&oldid=83577898 >.

Thank You.

hopiakuta ; [[ <nowiki> </nowiki> { [[%c2%a1]] [[%c2%bf]] [[ %7e%7e%7e%7e ]] } ;]] 12:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

First of all, can you do something about your signature, which is weird (above); and maybe play in the sandbox a bit. Second, I don't see much on the article talk page, which is the first place to go William M. Connolley 12:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Following talk page guidelines?

Quick question concerning the usage of talk pages for general conversations. Due to a big racial controversy involving Michael Richards his article's talk page has been subject to a heavy amount of non-editorial postings. Per talk page guideline #2 "keep on topic" I have been diligently removing these non-editorial conversations and warning users (mostly anon IP editors) against using the talk page for general conversations. I hadn't truly considered it but I suppose in a sense these removals could be considered reverts. Based upon the fact that I was following guidelines in removing these off topic non-editorial postings should I be wary of 3RR? In my mind off topic conversations are equivalent to vandalism. Am I wrong? (→Netscott) 02:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'd be cautious if I were you William M. Connolley 09:26, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What to do in this case

When an IP and a User are the same, and plays out 3RR by simply not logging in? Thanks for the answers (and yeah, I know, this should be askes somewhere else, but where?) --Vince ^{hey, yo! :-)} 15:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

212.200.175.214 (talk • contribs) & PANONIAN (talk • contribs) see contribs. --Vince ^{hey, yo! :-)} 15:14, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Typically it is pretty obvious and the user can be blocked. Other options are to semi-protect the page against edit-warring IPs, or to request a checkuser. —Centrx→talk • 11:53, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question...

Tasc is doing a lot of reverts to restore a prod. Is that 3RR? --Elaragirl^Talk|Count 16:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I'd say so, and I'd put it up for AfD if the prod keeps getting removed. Will ^{(Tell me, is something eluding you, Sunshine?)} 17:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] an automated system?

Reports are very time-consuming to fill out. Going back and forth from page history and noticeboard, copying all the diff urls as well as timestamps (that's a minimum of five diffs and five timestamps, back and forth makes that a minimum of twenty page switches). It would be more than awesome to have some kind of automated system that helps the user fill out a report. — coelacan talk — 00:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)