Talk:Acre, Israel

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Other languages WikiProject Echo has identified Acre, Israel as a foreign language featured article. You may be able to improve this article with information from the Hebrew language Wikipedia.
(still predominantly a 1911 text - needs lots of revisions; this land is currently held by Israel in violation of United Nations resolutions.

How come, Akko is well inside the Green Line (242 does not apply), its inhabitants (Jewish and Arab alike) are Israeli citizens, what's the issue here? --Uriyan

Uriyan is right here. There is no question that Acre, a coastal town in the Western Galilee, is within the boundaries of pre-1967 Israel. Danny

I worked through the page and did major copy edits and divided into topics and sub-topics. I also replaced the information about Akko's wall with a correct one and added some links with the history of Akko, as well as the official site of the Old Acre Developmemt Company.

Currently, the part of history is need more works since its laking many details. Also, we need to relate to the modern city of Akko (outside the walls). MathKnight 15:18, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] City of Acre

A google search on English pages returns:

  • about 5,090,000 English pages for City of Acre
  • about 23,400 English pages for City of Akko

Restricting the search to Palistine and Israel

  • about 27,900 English pages for Akko palestine
  • about 27,000 English pages for Akko Israel
  • about 739,000 English pages for Acre palestine
  • about 413,000 English pages for Acre Israel.

It is not archaic to us it in English eg:

Original Author which was not a stub starts: "Acre, Akka, or St Jean D'Acre",

So why is this article not under "Acre (city)" or some other title? Philip Baird Shearer 11:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

This one is a little sticky, because while there is plenty of precedent for using the "English translation" of a local name, that "English translation" is ambiguous with a very common word. All of the options are unpalatable, "Akko" seems simplest. Google results are not very meaningful, because hard to exclude uses of "acre" the unit of measurement. Stan 19:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Even if the page is not moved, the first name in the introduction should be "Acre" as that is the common English name. It should also be used throughout the rest of the article. Philip Baird Shearer 13:52, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Ok...so why is it now at "City of Acre"? "Acre (city)" is the most appropriately disambiguated title. "City of Acre" makes no sense. I notice, Philip, that you are even changing links to the "city" link, which redirects here... Adam Bishop 04:06, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Because I thought it was a better name and then changed my mind but messed up the page move to "Acre (city)" locking the page[1]. But on reflection I am not sure that "Acre (city)" is better than City of Acre. I am agnostic on either name as a disambiguation name for the city of Acre. Philip Baird Shearer 21:50, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Anyone still interested in this page move? I would propose simply "Acre", unless it's inappropriate or would cause a disambiguation problem. IMO this reflects the city's historical importance best, notwithstanding the above page numbers. Wally 16:03, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Which Herod?

The article says:

Here Herod built a gymnasium

Which Herod is meant? Gdr 21:12, 11 July 2005 (UTC) I was just wondering if anyone could add anything About Bahaullah. He is believed by the Bahais to be a prophet of God and I believe sent out various messages to the various leaders of countries at the time in Akka. Sorry Im not that informed on the subject but if anyone has any information, I think it may be a welcome addition to the cities history.

[edit] Jezzar Pasha

There appears to be an article about this fellow, as Cezzar Ahmet. It looks like there should just be a redirect or something to the unwritten Jezzar Pasha Mdanziger 21:48, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Knights of Templar

There is too much written here about the Hospitaller's and their role in Acre, which is significantly dwarfed in reality by the role of the Knights Templar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.4.139.79 (talk • contribs) 19:46, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bahá'u'lláh

I can't belive he's not mentioned in this article..... COME ON.....

Pure inuyasha 01:28, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

done. Thanks for suggesting it. -- Jeff3000 03:19, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Location of "infobox"

I moved the infobox out of the lead section because 1) it is ugly 2) the purpose of the lead section (see Wikipedia: Lead section) is to draw reader attention into the article and a picture is much more stylistically pleasing and inviting than a bland wall of statistics and 3) there is no rule that says infoboxes have to be in the lead section. In fact, many infoboxen have incorporated pictures into them -- with the picture coming first! It doesn't matter where the infobox goes in the article but it shouldn't be in the lead section when there are perfectly good pictures that can go there. In addition, per the MoS on image placement, don't stack images (or boxes) one on top of each other, they should be "laddered" left/right, there are even "nag tamplates" for articles that do that. -- Stbalbach 05:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Regardless of that, it absolutely does not belong in the section "The Greek and Roman periods". If there were a demographics section you could probably put it there, but for now I think we should put it below the image of the city. --PiMaster3 12:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm willing to compromise with that but the template won't position correctly so I put it as the first thing in the first section. -- Stbalbach 13:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I really believe that the infobox should be at the top, like all the country pages. If there is no picture option in the infobox template, that's a problem with the template, and not with this page. I'll move the infobox back to the top. -- Jeff3000 16:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Why don't you stick one of those pictures into the infobox? There are two pics right at the top... Adam Bishop 19:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
That would be too easy. Ok so now the only remaining problem is the template has no "image description" field so the image has lost some context. I'll post on the template page for a mod unless someone else has another idea. -- Stbalbach 20:11, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ongoign war incidents

Regarding this entry:

During the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict, Hezbollah launched rocket attacks on Acre, with two rockets landing. The rocket attacks led to Israel's Home Front Command to order the residents of Acre to stay in protective spaces.

See Talk:Tiberias#Ongoing war incidents for reason for removal from the article. -- Stbalbach 13:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org../../../a/c/r/Talk%7EAcre%2C_Israel_0d26.html"