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[edit] Pre-Crisis

Please read the Talk page before re-inserting Edits, and please comment on why you made those edits. I removed pre-Crisis from instances of "Pre-Crisis Earth Two" in Batman's statitstics panel because it was already HUGE, and because earth-two is by definition pre-crisis. If you think it's important, though, please come to the Talk page to discuss it! Simnel 11:09, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lobo

The general consensus throughout the comic books entries is that same-name characters are presented chronologically. The very popular motorcyle-riding Ghost Rider, for example, does not precede the Western hero named Ghost Rider. Chronological logic is one of the basic tenets of encyclopedic writing, which is different from popular-press magazine writing. To return to encyclopedic form, we're revising the Lobo entry to its previous outline. Don't sweat it — there are lots of stylistic things in both Wiki in general and the Comics Portal community in specific. I've been doing this for more than six months and I learn some new technique or bit of etiquette still! — Tenebrae 19:59, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

S'OK, Ace. As you can see if you go to the Lobo (comics) Discussion page, I'm the dope who called the Wakandan-born-and-raised Black Panther an African-American. D'oh!!  :-) — Tenebrae 20:26, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re-inserting content

Once again, if you're going to re-insert stuff (on the Batman page, in this case) please read the talk page, and explain why you're adding it back in. I'm reverting some of your edits. Simnel 21:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Air Wave

I like the work you've done helping clean up the Infinite Crisis page. Your reason for moving Air Wave to the Dead column made sense. However, whoever originally noted why he might be alive was wrong. The reason his death is debatable is not because he might have gone to Earth-2 (because he couldn't have, as you so accurately pointed out) but because dispersing a character of his nature in a million directions is unlikely to destroy him. In comics, any character like that will eventually reintegrate. That's always how it goes. This isn't a criticism. I just wanted to make sure you know that when I undid your change, it was not an arbitrary dislike of someone's edits.

Again, great work on all those other edits, Ace.Wryspy 07:09, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cir-El

Glad we got everything straight, I had just copied Superman's family on to Cir-El's family, and in retrospect, you were right, those were way too many relatives for a genetically altered "daughter" of Superman. 204.116.172.145 02:26, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Donna Troy Space crew disappearance

Kyle asks where they all went, it's pretty obvious that Kilowog, Kyle, and Hawkman are the only ones that didn't disappear. Even if you want to be skeptical about that point, we know at the very least that Starfire, Cyborg, and Hawkgirl are gone from Teen Titans OYL (for the first two) and Hawkman's line in IC for the last. I have no idea where you've seen any of those people in 52, but even if they do appear, they are currently missing as of Infinite Crisis. --Rocketgoat 18:41, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] edits to Changes/Infinite Crisis

As last editor, I'm mildly irked you weren't more clear in directing that snipey last edit comment to Chrisgriswold, who did the editing in question. Further, I think his purpose was mostly, by looking at it, Alpha by surname reorganization. That's a reasonable system for organizing lists. Cool off, assume good faith, etc., etc. most of the big messes on that page are settled.ThuranX 00:17, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Nah, it's not THAT big a deal, I just wanted to remind you of clarity and good faith. Changes will keep happening for a few months, then it'll settle till the graphic novel comes out, then settle again.ThuranX 22:19, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


-Sorry about the mix up with Superman. I was messing with something else, and I didn't see that last edit. My apologies.--Wakefencer

Accepted. And don't worry. No harm done. --Ace ETP 23:14, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:24.116.191.146

Regrettably, IP addresses cannot be blocked for more than a month per the blocking policy. Were it a user account I would block indef. Should he continue after his 31 hour block, I'll block for a week, then a month, then continue with month long blocks till he desists. I appreciate you weighing in on this. Thank you. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 20:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. Let's just hope he doesn't register under a real user name, or some unlucky bastard ending up with the same IP adress for some reason doesn't end up not being able to edit articles because of his actions. --Ace ETP 20:45, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
If I remember correctly, blocking a user account indef only blocks the underlying IP for 24 hours. Wikipedia:Autoblock I think. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 20:47, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Golden Age Batman

Hi -- I noticed your recent edit summery in Batman. If my understanding is correct, unlike Superman and Wonder Woman, Batman's chronology was not restarted after Crisis, and the canon-ity Golden and Silver age stories are taken on a 'burn that bridge when we cross it' basis. ~CS 21:59, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

oooh... post Infinite Crisis. My bad. I haven't been reading it. It does have some bearing on the Bat-Verse then... =\ ~CS 22:05, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Amos Fortune

Regarding your Infinite Crisis edit about Amos Fortune, I think that JSA Classified is designed to tie in to the JLA classified story, and both are set PRE-Crisis. Even if it's not, please remember that the IC article refers to the context of IC, and the talk page has multiple editors asking editors to focus on perception within the context of IC. It's been remarked that if we erase villians every time one's brought back from the dead, replaced, or otherwise returns to an active status, eventually the article would be empty, and pointless. ThuranX 03:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Alright, I'm sold. I just wanted to check. ThuranX 04:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{Superherobox}}

I undid your review on SHB; my edit summaries were unclear, but I fixed the glitch that was breaking alter_ego. The last touch was that last edit to fix a certain slim set of cases where the entire block wouldn't appear if certain parameters weren't used. Basically, I fixed it, and don't have any more work to do on that parameter for the time being. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I think what you interpreted as a glitch breaking the "alter ego" field was actually caused by my unsuccesful attempts to change the field's name by myself after no one oppossed my proposal to change it back to "real name" in the talk page. --Ace ETP 23:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
I suggest bringing it up on WT:CMC and getting support or opposition there; the template's talk page isn't very closely watched. All you did is break the parameter again. :/ - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 23:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I was not the one who put in this line but it seems relevant as one of his weaknesses: "In Superman/Batman #8-13, he is willing to do whatever is "necessary" to destroy evil, including destroying an entire world of inhabitants." Furthermore... I think Wayne Enterprises HAVE caused much harm by the super-villains they've created such as The Joker, Clayface, etc. In the movie "Batman Begins" Bruce Wayne is thrown in prison for stealing food -- whcih is even more condemnation of his corporate culture. Poison Ivy is also very critical of the environmental devesttion caused by Wayne Enterprises (which is rather directly guided by Bruce Wayne).

[edit] Batman as anti-hero

The sentence asserts that people consider him the first comic anti-hero. What people? Who says this? That needs a citation. Doczilla 23:44, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I see. I agree with you there. In fact, the inclusion of that sentence was suggested (in archived talk page discussion) by me and another editor as a compromise between his desire to include an entire paragraph about the "Batman as anti-hero" interpretation being prevalent, and my desire to erase any reference to Batman as an anti-hero (as it invokes POV, since the word "anti-hero" means "a protagonist with qualities not normally found in characters who the audience sympathizes with", rather than "a violent or otherwise unconventional hero", as many people commonly assume). --Ace ETP 23:53, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Middle-earth

Tolkien's legendarium was much more about Middle-earth, and Middle-earth was not the only place in which many crucial events in his legendarium took place (just as The Lord of the Rings was not his only important work that illustrated the history of Arda; The Silmarillion really serves as the backbone of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit, and the first half of the book takes place in Aman, which constantly plays crucial roles throughout the second half). Númenor, Aman (Valinor, Tirion, Formenos — the Valar, who were pivotal players in the First Age of Arda, dwelled in Valinor, which is outside of Middle-earth). The Middle-earth title is a little misleading and in that matter, because many material goes beyond the boundaries of Middle-earth — that is why the word 'Middle-earth' is omitted.

Generally, Middle-earth is most commonly associated to The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit, and Arda or a plain 'legendarium' without the Middle-earth encompasses other works and places that are crucial to the history of Arda (e.g. The Silmarillion). The most respected encyclopedia for information related to Tolkien's legendarium is the Encyclopedia of Arda (we had some Tolkienites come up to us and point out that a reliable encyclopedia was already created and there was no need to build up more information in Wikipedia >_<), and note that it is called the Encyclopedia of Arda, not Middle-earth.

Breakdown of geography of Tolkien's legendarium:

  • Fictional universe: Eä (Universe or Milky Way; Tolkien didn't really distinguish between the two in relations from Eä to the real world)

I know that many of Tolkien's articles state 'the fictional universe of Middle-earth', but it's deceiving (and oversimplifies facts) and we should be working to clear the matter up. A lot of the articles related to Tolkien's legendarium need to conform to the Standards; however, there are few actively involved in the WikiProject to actually bring Tolkien related articles to encyclopedic standards. However, I will keep the Middle-earth temporarily until a discussion takes place, because I don't think there has been a clear consensus on this; so thanks for bringing it up to my attention. :) —Mirlen 02:06, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I am very familiar with the points you are presenting, Mirlen. In fact, had I enough time and/or motivation, I would call for every single reference in Wikipedia to "Tolkien's fictional universe of Middle-earth" to be changed to "Tolkien's fictional world of Arda", and for the "Middle-earth" article to be deposed from its position as the "flagship" legendarium article in favor of the "Arda" article. I added the word "Middle-earth" to the template so users could use it to access the main article about the legendarium in adittion to being able to use it to access the articles about the works which build the legendarium (even if I disagree about the location of the former). --Ace ETP 03:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Bette Kane

While I appreciate the seemingly good faith and clarification,—I did have a feeling—it would be better to make a note on the articles talk page. Consider these questions the next time you're tempted to leave a note elsewhere:

  • Was this a single content disputing revert?
  • Was no indication of vandalism?
  • Would a talk page comment be answered?
  • Has the user made substaniel edits before yours?

If it's mostly "yeses" chances are that person might just be reasonable and respond civilly to a talk page comment. Editting can be confusing and people can make mistakes. Best not to worsen the situation with clutter to their talk page, if you can help it. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 18:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

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