Talk:A Visit from St. Nicholas
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A Visit from Saint Nicholas, surely? Quill 00:25, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)
The label for the Snopes link (here and on Clement Clarke Moore) is misleading; they talk about the dispute, but do not actually refute Moore's authorship: Whether Moore or Livingston wrote "A Visit from Saint Nicholas," one of them melded elements of Scandinavian mythology with the emerging Dutch-American version of Santa Claus... 61.51.67.145 17:55, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Thunder and Lightning...
...translates to Donner and Blitz. As far as I remember, the poem mentions a reindeer named "Donner", but not "Donder" as it mentions in the article. Blitzen would be the infinitive form of the verb "to lightning" (though that doesn't really exist in English). Anyone care to clear this up? --Jemiller226 23:36, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Sure: you're thinking that the words in the poem are German, but they're Dutch.
[edit] I am not sure this is correct...
"more proof links the poem to Moore than" If there is proof of Moore's authorship, then there is no dispute. Even if re-worded as "more evidence links the poem to Moore" then even this, I think would be POV as it isn't wikipedia's place to assess the merits of evidence. It would perhaps be better to say that the poem had been attributed to Clement Moore and later to Henry Livingston although no proof exists of authorship. DavidFarmbrough 15 Sep 05
If there is more evidence there is more evidence. That is merely stating a fact. MrBucket 03:04, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Private correspondence of the editor
We need a source for this, I've taken it out for now. Having read Foster's work it seems largely convincing. Rich Farmbrough 21:54, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Names of reindeer
I removed the full list of the names of the reindeer. I would be nice, however, to have the several versions of the poem in Wikisource. -Acjelen 23:04, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Just to point out that on snopes it quotes the poem and it mentions Dunder and Blixem. http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/donner.asp Feral Mutant 20:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Your opinion
Do you think we could just print the complete original poem in the article? Other articles have full songs and poems in them and the poem is in the public domain. What do you think? Meyow 17:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- I think we should. --Chancemichaels 18:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)Chancemichaels
- The original version, of course, but who knows which that might be? MrBucket 03:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Victorianization of Christmas?
This was 1823.
- Perhaps. Victoria's principal contribution to Christmas was the Christmas tree. Visit certainly presents a very domestic and children-centered Christmas compared to even the Christmas in Dickens' writing, which is much more public. The wholesomeness is also very ironic: home invasion, but by a saint; reverse burglary; the sly conspiracy with the father. -Acjelen 14:09, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
