Talk:A Tree Full of Secrets

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Tree Full Of Secrets Is this available for download?--asydwaters 08:11, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is. But not here.  :) --71.224.140.123 01:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving question about verifying sources for ATFoS

(Below is archived for reference a discussion from my talk page in answer to the author's question about verifying sources for ATFoS Dugwiki 16:28, 23 July 2006 (UTC))

You recently added an "unreferenced" tag to the ATFoS article. I just thought you should know, that bootleg collections of this sort are tricky - the vast majority of the article is easily referenced by a simple look at the collection itself, the sites which created and host it, and its included text files. The tricky bit is that we can't USE any of these as a reference, even though they are primary references, since linking to any of the sites that host or discuss it is usually a potential copyright violation. Any ideas on how we could source it without potential worries about copyright violations? - dharmabum 08:33, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately you might have a catch 22 here. Wikipedia standards say all articles are supposed to be based on information with verifiable references. They can't rely on original research, such as the article's author owning the CD (see Wikipedia:No original research for details on the policy). Therefore the TFoS article likewise needs to have references in the article itself that people can use to verify the article's statements. Simultaneously, you can't post material that infringes on copyrights, and that probably includes links to pirated copies of music.
Really the only way around the problem that I can see is if you can find an outside, independent article or review of ATFoS from a reliable, established source. You can then use information from THAT source for the article, and link to it. Then remove any information about ATFoS that can't be verified without breaking copyright. So your article is reporting that "such-and-such a news source reports that ATFoS is this, this and this," and isn't linking directly to potentially illegally pirated material. Dugwiki 16:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I've removed the "unreferenced" tag. While the links aren't to peer-reviewed journals, I think they are sufficient without linking copyrighted material. – edgarde 19:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC)