User talk:86.142.208.76

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Please do not add commercial links or links to your own private websites to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links to the encyclopedia. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you.

--Guinnog 15:10, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Arbitary removal of relevent links by a self-appointed editor is not acceptable regardless of Wiki policy, sorry.
Well, we are all self-appointed volunteers when we first edit here I suppose. I am also an admin which is a community appointment. I thought that rather than block you for your personal attack on Demiurge I would make sure you were aware of some of our policies, which is why I sent you the warning messages I did. Another policy relates to removing warnings from your talk page: you aren't allowed to do that.
Sorry, fell into "email mode" there.
If you're going to continue to edit here, you should read those policies I sent you, because if you don't I will have to block you. Sorry about that. --Guinnog 15:34, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
You do not address, however, the question of why, when a pro-council site link is allowed, an anti-council (or at least, if you look at the site, a pro-rate-payers) site is not allowed. Demiurge has decided, apparently by fiat, that my link to a forum on the subject of Bangor is not allowed. He has attemped to explain this as being a commercial site (if it was I think it would be a damn sight better looking!) or a site of my personal creation. This latter is not only reliant on Demiurge's psychic powers to determine, but is also wrong.
I can see no reason to remove the link and leave the council one intact. I would prefer removal of both to removal of either. To leave one side of the story represented and not the other is censorship, no matter what rationalisation Demiurge tries to place on it. There is a great deal of unhappiness in Bangor at the moment about the council's actions and accountability. It is not material which could be covered in a NPOV entry but I believe it certainly deserves a simple link to enable those people who are interested in the town to see that there is a forum for their grievances.
This is all the more important since the local newpaper has been threatened with legal action by officers of the council for even printing the URL which I have linked in. Thus, there is a real freedom of speech issue here. I have not attempted to force this view into the article, part of which I wrote as well as taking and gifting one of the photographs for, but instead simply placed a link in the place put aside for links to Bangor-related sites.
I require that some better defence of the removal of that link than Demiurge's personal opinion be presented. If it is not, then I will simply keep adding it via proxies for the forseeable future.
  • Fine, here you go: WP:EL "Links normally to be avoided: Any site that contains factually inaccurate material or unverified original research, as detailed in Wikipedia:Reliable sources.". Get your complaints about the council published in a reliable source and you can link to that all you want. Until then, they are original research. (And why the official council link should stay: "Articles about any organization, person, web site, or other entity should link to the official site if there is one. ".) Demiurge 18:41, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I have blocked you from editing for 24 hours. Please use this time to read the policies I referred you to above. Thanks. --Guinnog 16:12, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

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