User talk:68.9.51.232

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Censorship

Your rewording of Censorship [1] implies that only governments apply censorship. Censorship is not practised exclusively by governments. Censorship has and is practised by many others that are not governments, though most often we see and hear of governmental censorship. Cheers ww2censor 13:11, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I think you are wrong, but for another reason. I believe that the wording is intended to imply that it is only implemented by some governments and not all, but it has nothing to do with other groups. Dave 20:07, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, that's not what I got out of it when I read it, and that's not what I got out of it when I reverted it back. I agree with Ww2censor. Whether or not there's a better way to phrase it, there's nothing about the "definition and etymology" that demands a government be the one doing the censorship, as you say there is. You can find competing definitions online, but there are just as many, if not more, that don't limit it to government than there are ones that do.[2] And to say that the "etemology" of the word requires it apply only to governments is a little silly--I mean, the etemology of the word is irrelevant to its modern use and scope. The word "dashboard" identifies a particular part of a horse-drawn vehicle, but it is properly applied to vehicles without horses.[3] Etemology just doesn't work to limit the scope of language. Junkmale 23:15, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
It is not that some governments do and some governments don't, my view is that it is not just governments perform censorship of communications though, in the main, it is governments that instigate and perform censorship, but it is not exclusive to governments, all or any. Some have and some have not and some still do. Censorship can be performed by non-governments too. ww2censor 01:08, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


It is not that some governments do and some governments don't, my view is that it is not just governments perform censorship of communications though, in the main, it is governments that instigate and perform censorship, but it is not exclusive to governments, all or any. Some have and some have not and some still do. Censorship can be performed by non-governments too. ww2censor 01:08, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Your view is misguided. The definition of censorship makes it a government act. If a non-governmental body controls speech, it's not censorship.
Show us where you get that definition of censorhsip, then. Webster.com defines it as "the institution or practice of censoring," with censor defined as "to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable." [4] Dictionary.com shows that both Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law and the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language define censorship and censoring in the same way, without ever mentioning government. [5] Ditto Allwords.com.[6] Ditto Cambridge English dictionary[7] and its dictionary of American English. [8] The Columbia encyclopedia goes even further to disagree with your definition, stating that censorship "may be imposed by governmental authority, local or national, by a religious body, or occasionally by a powerful private group."[9] So what, exactly, do you cite as authority for your position? Junkmale 14:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Show us where you get that definition of censorhsip, then.


The word comes from the position of Censor in ancient Rome, from the Latin censere. The definition I use is nearly two millenia old.
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--InShaneee 01:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

This is idiotic, frankly. The current entry is typical of exactly what is wrong with Wikipedia - a preference for a popular definition over an accurate one.

What gives you the authority of defininition over actual dictionaries? Also, the definition of a word isn't necessarily gleaned by its etymology or history, or even a disruptive annonymous person. Please sign your posts. Please do not edit war. Dave 10:39, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

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