User talk:68.46.123.33

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You might want to consider creating an account. See Wikipedia:Why create an account? for the reasons. JRM 15:56, 2004 Nov 10 (UTC)


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[edit] Hello there

Thanks for your continual worthwhile contributions. I'm surprised you've chosen still to avoid creating a username; I personally feel that possessing a watchlist and activating the preference "Add pages I edit to my watchlist" makes for a much more involved Wikipedia experience, without the necessity to engage oneself in down-and-dirty debates on VfD and elsewhere. Ground 04:06, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Warcraft III

Regarding your recent edit to Warcraft III, I removed it since the standard policy (for the Warcraft articles, anyway) is to discuss the addition of a link on the article's talk page first before actually inserting it into the article, in order to avoid link spam. --Arabani 22:32, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

This is the second time you have added an external link to the Warcraft III article without first discussing it on the talk page. Please stop doing this. I have removed your addition and hope that I will not need to do it again. --Arabani 04:10, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

I noticed that you are adding a lot of external links. Please bear in mind that Wikipedia is not a repository of links. Please read Wikipedia:External links to find out what kind of links we want and what kind of links we don't want. Thanks. --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 11:30, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Please do not add commercial links — or links to your own private websites — to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. See the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 05:49, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to use Wikipedia for advertising, you will be blocked from editing. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 06:05, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm not useing it for advertising.

However the links you are adding have no appreciative content, and are commercial websites (as witnessed by the "Click here to buy <somegame>!" links), and thus do not qualify as useful External links. Please read over Wikipedia's stance on external links before adding any more. Thanks for your interest! Cheers. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 06:13, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

WTF you deleted everything all my work is gone!

Nothing has been deleted, per se; just removed from the currently displayed history. Your edits can still be viewed in the history of each article, should you ever need to restore content. However I would urge you to consider Wikipedia's policy on external links, as I mentioned above, before restoring anything. If you can make a strong case for the links staying in fact, I'd be happy to put them back myself. As I see it now however, they did not provide any significant content not easily found elsewhere (e.g., each page seemed to be a short paragraph describing just the basics of the game), and they were obviously commercial pages. If you'd like, you can leave a response here, or on my talk page. I know it can be discouraging when your work is removed, but I hope you aren't too frustrated to let me know your thoughts. Cheers. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 06:33, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

MobyGames is a database that contains alot of information (detailed credits, publishing lists, etc.) that is hard to find anywhere else. A number of game articles already contain links to MobyGames, so I was adding the links for consistency. We link to the Internet Movie Database for movies, so it makes sense to link to MobyGames for games.

Okay, I've now written up three responses to the above, and keep changing my mind on the subject. I still feel that MobyGames is primarily a commercial venture, since it has a large red "Buy Now" button on each game's page, and is getting referral money every time someone buys a game through those links. I still find their reviews and statistics for each game rather spartan, and redundant when most game articles already have links to bigger (usually platform-specific, i.e., PCGamer) review sites. However I suppose the argument could be made that the utility of MobyGames is in its relational metadata - that it's useful to be able to click on 'Other games by "EA Games"', and get a big list. Or look at all strategy games made for the PC in 2003, etc. That, and the fact that I myself can't seem to make up my mind on this, makes me think the links should probably go back in - I'll let the individual articles decide if they want to keep them or not.
Thanks for your responses to this, and for being patient. In the future when you're communicating over a talk page (like this) however, could you sign your posts by adding four tildes (~~~~) to the end? Wikipedia's software will automatically translate this into a timestamp and your name, and will make the conversation much easier to follow. Thanks, and I'll get on restoring those links shortly. On an unrelated note, have you considered creating an account? --PeruvianLlama(spit) 19:52, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Okay, I think that's all of them. If I missed any, you can let me know, or re-add them yourself if you feel up to it. Cheers! --PeruvianLlama(spit) 20:04, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
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