User talk:68.161.238.220

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I assume the text you have been copying from the Library of Congress is in the public domain (not all of it is). If this is the case then please indicate the source of the text in the article itself (see below). Not doing so is plagiarism (of course if it isn't in the public domain then it is also a copyright infringement). --mav

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  • Initial text adapted from The Library of Congress Country Studies

Plagiarism is academic :) Copyright infringment now that is another matter

Your input in the Laos and Thailand related articles is very welcome as there are not many from that area active here yet. However when you start new topics like Thonburi it would be better to make it longer then just one sentence if possible. Otherwise others have to do the de-stubbing work, like I did already for those Thailand related ones I can provide input. andy 08:40 Apr 2, 2003 (UTC)

At the very least please write in complete sentences. --mav

And put the title in the first sentence in '''bold'''. -- John Owens

No problem


Please stop to create article but copying text from websites - that's not what I meant by trying to avoid stubs. This is a copyright infringement, and you are doing the project absolutely no good by that, and create additional work to other to find them and clean it up. andy 22:32 Apr 15, 2003 (UTC)

Give me an example of what you are talking about. The beauty of wiki is that it changes. Text is not static. You can start out as a stub or as something lifted from the LOC, but it quickly changes into something of its own. With things that can't be changed you can legitimately be concerned about copyright violation but text that constantly evolves cannot be protected and cannot violate protection. It's a living document in a literal sense of the term. The entry a year, a month, a week, even a day or an hour from now can be different. Why fret over something that has a life of its own?


Please read Wikipedia:Copyrights - everything is said there. If you find a great text in the web you want to have on Wikipedia, you have to rewrite it in your own words, never just copy it - unless you have explicit permission by the author. It's more work for sure, but everything else is not accepted here. Of course a copyrighted text will evolve here, but if it's a nearly perfect text already it won't change enough to loose its roots. andy 07:38 Apr 17, 2003 (UTC)

WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THE AUTHOR DID NOT GIVE EXPLICIT PERMISSION?? WHY ARE YOU MAKING ASSUMPTIONS??

You are wrong about a text not changing enough. You're trying to control the project to make the text read whatever you want it to read and instead of getting a good product in the end you're just going to end up with huge empty patches. You're driving people away. Wikipedia is two years old and you're preventing a whole section from being created. I'm certainly not going to bother with it anymore.

Since you are not satisfied with my contributions I will remove them.

While I do that you can read this: copyright and fair use. Have a ball.


If the author gave you the permission then you have to add it on the respective talk page. Every community has it's accepted rules, and one of the rules here is to be very serious about copyright. I don't want to drive you away, quite the contrary, I value every input about Southeast Asia as it's not well covered yet, but it need to be done within the rules. andy 10:37 Apr 18, 2003 (UTC)
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