User:62.254.0.38
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This IP belongs to an ISP (NTL) in Nottingham, UK, and is a cache server for very many users. Do not block it except briefly, when necessary to combat vandalism. Thanks. silsor 18:52, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)
- And there has been some vandalism from here. If you are using this IP for innocent purposes, all the more reason for creating a userid. It costs you nothing. TIA Andrewa 21:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
- 15/05/2005 : The IP's history shows a very regular and persistent history of dangerous vandalism, over at least the last months, (presumably from one psycho) mixed with a few valid edits (presumably from honest users on the same proxy) mixed with submarine vandalism trying to look like legitimate edits (presumably from the aforementionned psycho). It should be banned for anonymous edits, it's overall not worth it IMO.
←#6 talk 00:01, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure what "permanent vandalism" means, but I've reviewed the contributions history and found a significant number of genuine, useful edits. I think that twenty-four hour blocks would be acceptable, but anything longer would be unfair on other users (I second Andrewa's suggestion that genuine editors open accounts — see below).
By the way, 6, could you use four tildes rather than starting comments with the date? The form you use is non-standard in most parts of the world, and takes a little time to decipher. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
- About a 24-hr ban and your "anything longer would be unfair", I disagree. What I said was "It should be banned for anonymous edits": i.e. people from this ISP/IP-range should unfortunately but justifiedly not be allowed anonymous edits any more (for 6 or even 12 months), and have to login first (so it's not an unfair ban, but a justified stopgap). This would require the psycho to create a new account before each of his rampages, and thus allow to measure his degree of persistence and malevolence. Should he persist unabatted, it would then be justified to escalate the ban to something more drastic, such as requiring an email validation for creating accounts from this IP-range, and/or requiring an account to be older than N days before its being allowed edits, which would be a light one-time burden on regular editors, but a huge stopgap against the vandal who has to recreate an account (and possibly a free-email account first) after each rampage and ban, which should start to feel like work to him. (Note: I dunno if such restrictions by IP-range are currently possible on MediaWiki, but if not, they really should IMO. A 24-hour ban means absolutely nothing against a psycho who makes a regular rampage every 2 days like clockwork, and will exclusively annoy genuine editors.) -- (Answer to refactored question from [1])
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