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DBZ

I have some pictures for various articles, would you like to help me put them up? I just didn't want to bother with the copywrite stuff. thanks for your pics you posted today Infinare 06:58, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Sure, just tell me which pictures you want me to put up and where. If you want me to copyright them too then just say the word. -- bulletproof 3:16 7:06, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/BrolyForms.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/SS1Brolydeviceeffects.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/TheLegend.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/MuscleBroly.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/ManiacalBroly.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/BrolyRunning2clear.jpg
Thanks. These are all about Broly, for his page and the Super Saiyan page. I have more for the Fusion page, Gotenks, Spirit Bomb, 7 Star Dragons, Kaio and Kaioshin, Bebi, Buu, Janemba, Hyperbolic Time Chamber, Scanners, and Piccolo/Kami-Sama. They are all great visuals for their respective articles, alot of which I captured my self. Are you interested in the rest? Thanks again
Infinare 17:29, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Send all the pics you have man. I'll be happy to help. -- bulletproof 3:16 18:02, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/pic.jpg (to Fusion)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/fuciones.jpg (to Fusion)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/PotaraFz.jpg (to Fusion)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/Potara.jpg (to Fusion)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/DemonKingPiccolo.jpg (Demon King Piccolo)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/Kami-Sama.jpg (Demon King Piccolo/Kami of Earth)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/piccolos.jpg (Demon King Piccolo)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/db713dd8.jpg (Buu majuub)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/ghost.jpg (Gotenks attacks)
To Kaio:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/NorthKaioshin2.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/SouthKaio.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/southkaioshin.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/EastKaio.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/EastKaioshin.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/ElderKai.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/WestKaio.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/WestKaioshin2.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/DaiKai.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/DaiKaioshin2.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/finalflash.jpg (List of Dragon Ball special abilities)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/hyperbolic.jpg (to Hyper...)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/scouters.jpg (to Scanners)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/janembasword7.jpg (Janemba)
Infinare 20:18, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Last ones
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/15android.jpg (List of characters)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/14android.jpg (List of characters)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/android13.jpg (List of characters)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/SuperAndroid13.jpg (List of characters)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/db010.jpg (List of characters)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/bojack_1.jpg (List of characters)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/SA17.jpg (List of characters/ Super A17)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/gotenksghostattck.jpg (Gotenks)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/gotenks3.jpg (Gotenks)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/fp_ssj_02.jpg (Super Saiyan Full Power)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/Dr.jpg (idk, SA17 maybe)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/FattyJanenba.jpg (Janemba)
And finally Spirit Bomb.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/spiritbstage1.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/spiritb0.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/spiritb1.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/spiritb2.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/spiritb3.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/spiritb4.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/spiritb5.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/0verXposed/spirtb6absorb.jpg
Thanks alot, once the pictures are loaded to Wiki tell me how to use them and I'll load them up on the articles Infinare 20:58, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

WrestleMania XX images

Hey, I'm just here to say that I've put up Image:Wmxxguerrero.jpg and Image:Wmxxbenoit.jpg which you uploaded, up for deletion. I thought it might make the WrestleMania XX article look a little better with better quality pictures of other matches rather than just purely focusing on Benoit and Guerrero. --Oakster 8:39, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

hey, man it's cool just help me find and put up some other pictures for the WM articles that have none -- bulletproof 3:16 11:09, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. --Oakster 20:41, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


WrestleMania 22 Logos

Please discuss your inclusion of the WrestleMania 22 Logos on the WrestleMania talk page. I have warned User:Perry8331 of his violation of the Three-revert rule. Thanks. Eenu (talk) 00:59, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I will discuss the Trivia with the other editors on the WrestleMania talk page. -- bulletproof 3:16 01:05, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject Digimon Systems Update

Thanks for joining the Digimon Systems Update WikiProject!

Basically, being apart of a WP:DIGI means you'll help organize, expand, clean up, and guide Digimon related articles on Wikipedia. You can also help create guidelines and discuss issues about Digimon-related articles. If you're new, don't be afraid about making mistakes, Wikipedia has a lot to take in. Just use common sense and you'll usually be fine.

If you are unsure about something you can always make a note on an article's talk page (the link for each article's talk page is next to the edit this page link, labeled discussion) for asking for help or even just asking for other people's suggestions and feedback.

Remember to not violate copyrights, such as cutting and pasting exact info from other Digimon websites isn't allowed. Cite ALL information you add (where your information came from, such as an anime episode appearance, manga volume, card game info, etc). And remember that Wikipedia isn't a fan-site; the articles should contain information that is useful and interesting to those who have not seen the shows or played the card games.

Again, welcome to the WikiProject. Check out the links on the Project page and familiarize yourself with the guidelines and advice we have so far, and definitely check out the talk page and get involved there as well, with opinions and any ideas you have. And make sure you add the project page and the to do list to your watchlist so you can keep up to date with the Project. -- Ned Scott 04:21, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

California WikiProjects

As a California Wikipedian, you may be interested in the California WikiProject (and/or one of its 'daughter' Wikiprojects on Southern California, Santa Barbara County, California State Highways and California County Routes). Please take a look at the WikiProject to see if there is anything that interests you. If you have any comments or questions, feel free to contact me. If enough people express an interest, it would also be very easy to create additional daughter WikiProjects, such as a Northern California WikiProject or a California Politics WikiProject.

It has also more than seven months since the 2nd Los Angeles area Wikipedia meetup ([ 26 September]] 2005), so it is time for another one. There have also been California meetups in San Diego (18 October 2005) and a very small one in Santa Barbara (8 April 2006. It's also about time that the Bay Area gets its first Meetup if anyone is willing to organize it. BlankVerse 06:07, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to WP:WPSC (the shortcut for Wikipedia:WikiProject Southern California). BlankVerse 07:54, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, I plan on improving the quality of every article from the project.-- bulletproof 3:16 17:31, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Frieza-Freeza

Yeah...I just figured that out myself. Onikage725 23:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2

Wow, I can't believe you managed to put up with that vandalism for that long. If you have problems with single editors vandalising, you can report them on WP:AIV. Keep up the good work on that article! --Lord Deskana I VALUE YOUR OPINIONS 20:24, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Deskana. I honestly value your help.-- bulletproof 3:16 21:53, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Wiki-star

That's not Wiki-star. Wiki-star is a fugging moron who would have done a lot worse. This is another user who I helped out with the article for Majuub/Ubuu. He/she just needs to be talked to. I don't think he/she is unreasonable. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Daishokaioshin (talk • contribs).

WrestleMania 23 logo

Hello, I made that logo I made into .jpg. I put it on my Photobucket rather than upload it in place of the current jpg file. Let me know what you think and I'll upload it.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/fp_atl/WrestleMania23.jpg

Thanks! -- FPAtl (holla) 22:16, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Very nice. Its clean and jpg! I'm working on one too that doesn't have a black or white background. Its a little bigger than that one but just let me know what you think. I'll be done with it in a few more minutes. -- bulletproof 3:16 22:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Dragon Ball Z Power Levels AfD

I think everyone’s got your point about the sock puppets by now. —xyzzyn 18:02, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

WrestleMania 23

Even though the event isn't for quite some time, the article continues to get vandalized almost daily with people posting their own versions of speculated matches. I fear that as the event draws near, more fans are going to target the article and fill it with nonsensical fancruft and crystal ball garbage. I monitor the article continuously to make sure that the article and its talk page don't turn into some forum for anonymous fans to post whatever they desire. It's the only way we can maintain the article's integrity. —№tǒŖïøŭş4lĭfė ♫♪

I agree with you 100%. The article is subject to repeated vandalism and I am concerned over the potential increase of it as the event draws near. The same thing happened with last year's event. The talk page practically became the unofficial forum. The main WrestleMania article as well as other articles on upcoming events have been repeatedly vandalized by anonymous users adding fan links and "live coverage links"(see WWE Vengeance [1] and [2]). One user even had the nerve to add an "official" site for WrestleMania 24!([3]) Unfortunately, any request made to have it Semi-Protected will more than likely be denied as the article has "insufficient content" to protect as said by one admin I talked to recently about this matter. Until then, it's up to us to keep it clean. -- bulletproof 3:16 06:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Dragon Ball timelines

I just recently saw the Dragon Ball Z timlines page, and saw there was a short, pointless debate on the movies. I think that the DBZ movies fit into timline 4, or their own timlines. If you read the article, it makes sense that movies 7 8 and 9 would be in the 4th timline. I think it should be mentioned if you agree with me, and if you don't it should say the DBZ movies don't have any timline to fit into. I wanted to ask somone with more knowledge of DBZ before editing it.KojiDude 18:34, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the advice. You saved me alottttttt of time. lolKojiDude 04:24, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Straw Poll

Hello, you are invited to take part in a straw poll at the Majin Buu page to avoid another revert war with User:Wiki-star.--Orion Minor 23:47, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Dollars to donuts...

This will never... EVEEERRR end. Only because it centers on an anime-cruft article most admins couldn't give two flips about. Bank on it. Papacha 05:24, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Well slap my arse and call me Shirley, I'm happy to have been wrong for once (ignore the first part, disavow the last, still good on the "Shirley"). Papacha 00:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Same here, homes ... err... except for the first part... -- bulletproof 3:16 00:33, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Heh. Don't look at me, I'm not the one who clicked on Last Measure. Blind links are bad... a *bad* BAD thing. Maybe you and I are the last of a dying breed that actually checks before they click. @_@ Papacha 00:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Well you know you can't be too sure about those things these days... Never hurts to check, though. I remember once upon a time when you clicked on a link and it took you where you thought it would. Nowadays... you click on a link and you never know what you're going to get... "Fansite devoted to Cell" ... Good God NO! >_< -- bulletproof 3:16 01:04, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Request to take Majin Buu to arbitration...

Snurk, snurk, snurk...

After doing a file report on WP:ANI that was lightly brushed away, administrators suggested taking the case to WP:ARB. The theory being, if User:Wiki-star is as bad as all out, he would shoot himslef in the foot (though he should be lookin' somethin' like the Black Knight by now). As a periphery, I don't feel it's right to act as a cornerstone. Would you organize it?

I'm posting this to several parties involved in this 'lil get-together at Majin Buu, so let them know if you get to it first or decline please. This looks to be our final measure. Papacha 06:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism?

How is removing a bunch of insults and conversation irrelevant to the topic vandalism? That other guy is the one who was vandalizing the talk page with his name-calling. I removed all that for a reason. Please don't just revert things because you think they're vandalism when they aren't. Thanks.

Daishokaioshin 16:05, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

You know, I already "stopped" and would have accepted your explanation without the threat of blocking. We've worked together to improve articles, even if we didn't specifically talk to each other about it, and have fought against TRUE vandals like Wiki-star. I respect you as an editor, but I don't like being threatened like that when I tried to approach you on the subject politely and calmly, and did NOT revert things back to the way they were before you reverted my changes. You may be used to dealing with all the Wiki-stars here on Wikipedia, but I am not one of them. Try to keep that in mind, please.
Daishokaioshin 16:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Alright. Thanks for explaining that. Sorry if I came across as annoyed, but I don't like going straight from Wiki-star to someone else who decides he has something prove and starts flinging insults and poorly-conceived arguments at me because I mentioned that the Daizenshuu are not a canon source of information. They are extraneous, and whether the "fandom" (which tends to be full of wackos with all kinds of theories on this, that, and the other thing, that aren't backed up anywhere in canon) accepts them as true or not is of no consequence to me. I'm not interested in debating this point, however, except on my talk page, which I have attempted repeatedly to direct that other user towards. If you could assist in communicating with this other user if he continues his insult-throwing and refusal to drop the subject, I would appreciate it, as I don't need the stress that comes from trying to deal with stubborn and egotistical individuals. I edit on Wikipedia to improve Wikipedia. Not to have someone who doesn't know me try to tell me I don't have a life or whatever he was babbling about. Thanks for your time.
Daishokaioshin 16:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Wow, I see that Daishokaioshin is still the same conceited person... So now it's time for truth : I NEVER insulted anyone. That's a fact. Then, my arguments are undisputable (and the proof is that Dai' couldn't say anything more than insulting me). And I won't tolerate that Daishokaioshin tries to insult me again, for the 3rd time, after having polluted the talk page of the article, and my own talk page. Sorry Daishokaioshin, but this time you're wrong about the Daizenshû. That's all. It's not the end of the world, and anyway this matter doesn't deserve all this violence from you. You can't know everything about DB, even if you seem to know a great deal, you have your flaws. That's why we're on Wikipedia, meaning that everyone can give his share of correct things: we're simply not on your webpage, Dais', which would mean, whether you're right or wrong, that your point of view would be the only one. But here, there are other people than you, and they can also be right. I was right about the daizenshû, and, see, you're still alive. So why all these troubles ? Why do you have this need to insult people when they are right ?
    To 3bulletproof16, I don't need any warning, I'm the victim here, I was just trying to explain to Dais' that on Wikipedia, everybody has the right to have an opinion, even if it's not the same as some people who think they are the only one to know something Folken de Fanel 16:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Sorry but I'm not stubborn, I just wanted apologies from Daishokaioshin for her insults on my page, not "apologies" in which she implies that I misunderstood her. I just asked her to remove the insults on my page and to apologize for these insults. I don't think it's much. Yet she refused to do so. Anyway, the problem is solved in a way, if she keeps her word she won't try to attack me anymore, I don't wan't much more than that. But before we can really close the "case" she has to apologize for having harassed me since yesterday. She can't do everything she want and then not facing the consequences. Folken de Fanel 18:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Well well well, it seems you folks have another world of conflict other than in the Buu article. I don't want to interrupt, but i sincerely hope you folks don't take your misunderstandings to other contributors within thats article such as myself. Thanks for all your hard work! Wiki-star 19:49, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Wiki-star, you ARE interrupting. Please stay out of it.
3bulletproof16, just to clear something up, what you said about removing information from talk pages applies only to article talk pages and not user talk pages right? Because I removed all the insults and vandalism from Folken, and I don't want to get in trouble for vandalizing my own talk page, if that would go against the rules. Please clarify this for me when you have the chance.
Daishokaioshin 19:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I NEVER posted insults anywhere or vandalised anything. But maybe Daishokaioshin is going to explain us how your racial insults and vandalism on my own talk page is good for Wikipedia ?
    Seriously, Dais', vandalising 3bulletproof16's page in order to discredit me isn't going to help you. You said you didn't want to talk to me or hear from me anymore, then don't talk about me. Folken de Fanel 21:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

DBZ Wiki and Folken

Alright. Since Folken has decided to start being polite (mostly), even if he has begun denying that we ever spoke before (in addition to denying that he ever insulted me, which is dillusion as far as I'm concerned, considering he kept calling me a racist for mentioning that there may have been a communication barrier between us based on what language each of us is familiar with, amongst other things) I think that some progress can finally be made. He has tried a couple more times to start things with me, but I've shut him down by being polite and pointing out his own errors. He may not be a bad person, but he has left an impression on me, much like Wiki-star, that will take time to correct, through discussion and civility. Let's hope that he continues to be polite rather than resorting to name-calling, and such.

On the other subject you posted about, the DBZ wiki, I'm not sure how to go about it. Is there some place where one can get the source-code for producing one's own wiki project? Do you need a web server? It's going to be a lot of work to compile all the information about Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z on this thing. Should we draw upon wikipedia to start us off, and then work from there? What kind of rules are you thinking about, in terms of what content can be provided, what levels of canon to accept, etc.? Should extraneous and unreliable sources like the daizenshuu be included in an attempt to put correct information somewhere? Or is this going to be a compendium of "all-things-Dragon-Ball-regardless-of-canonicity"? A wiki isn't a place to post fan things, so having a fan fiction section where people can submit stories, while it would be appealing to me, since I am a writer, would not truly belong there. Thus other fan information shouldn't be included either. This would rule out any speculation or theories on how things work. If, however, you wanted to accept SOME speculation, since the Dragon Ball wiki wouldn't be bound by the same legal constraints as wikipedia...

Well, I think that's all I can come up with right now in terms of questions. I would be glad to help if you can get this thing running. It might be nice to have a place where intelligent people can go to provide information, without all the idiots who vandalize things here on wikipedia.

Daishokaioshin 17:04, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Batista vs. Henry

May you please tell me why you called my friends Batista vs, Mark Henry edits nonsense. He just called me and is pretty pissed that his work is being brushed aside. Both him and myself saw a commercial hyping this match while waiting for WWE Raw to come on. Other friends of minealso saw the commercial and are excited by the match. My friend went as far as to call you Wiki know it alls glory hounds. Brushing aside the info of a new user so you can take the edit, If thats true, thats pretty pathetic.User:Killswitch Engage

See the thing is that while you saw it, the rest of the country didn't. WWE deliberately releases its commercials and promos on future events, spoiling the outcomes of matches and whatnot, to the local media. This is stupidly done to attract the interest of fans in that local area. The same thing happened with the Vengeance DX promo. That promo spoiled the return of the DX at Vengeance as it was released roughly 2 months before Vengeance. Another thing is Wikipedia Policy which forbids the addition of spoilers as Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. So please do not post spoilers until they are officially announced on either Raw, SmackDown!, and ECW or WWE.com. Thank you. -- bulletproof 3:16 17:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

WP:AIV

Just so you know, I reverted this edit of yours. WP:AIV is for intervention against vandalism, not sockpuppets. I'll look into it for you, of course, but I just wanted to explain why I reverted it. Cheers. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of YOUR OPINIONS 22:00, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Batista

The image I put in was fair use. Besides, the other pic looks crappy. --Trosk 17:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

The new image you posted is not fair use. First of all, that image is copyrighted be WWE. And second, the image has a copyright violation as the person responsible for uploading it claims to be the creator of the work, which is obviously not true. -- bulletproof 3:16 17:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, I didn't know that. Also, why can't we just use that one? Most of the pictures on the page are from WWE anyway. --Trosk 20:43, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

It was a blatant copyvio, so it was deleted. Fair use images cannot be used in replacement of free images. The image on the page current is a free image. I'm afraid that's the end of the discussion. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of YOUR OPINIONS 20:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

But that pic sucks. You can barely tell it's a 300 pound guy! --Trosk 00:48, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. --Trosk 00:55, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome to read all of WP:FAIR if you disagree with my original assessment. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of YOUR OPINIONS 08:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Great American Bash

Are you ok with the World Title Match I added to the Schedualed Matches that I added?User:Killswitch Engage

Its cool, as long as it's legit and comes form an official source (Raw, SD!, ECW, WWE.com etc.) Just remember that Wikipedia is absolutely no place for fan rumors, gossip, spoilers, and other nonsense. If you could help me remind newcomers about the Crystal Ball Policy I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. -- bulletproof 3:16 06:37, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Unknown copyright?

How does the SSJ4 Gogeta image have "unknown copyright status"...? KojiDude 01:48, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

The SSJ4 Gogeta image you uploaded (Image:GogetaSuperSaiyan4.jpg) has a copyright violation as the image is copyrighted by Toei Animation. The tag on your image claims that you are the creator of the work, which is obviously not true. Thus, it has a copyright violation. For more information on using correct copyright/license tags, please see Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. Hope that clears it up a bit. -- bulletproof 3:16 02:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Admin?

Do you know where I could find an admin?...Preferably a really nice one. lol. I have a question that needs to be answered. KojiDude 22:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Go on, then. I'm listening. --Lord Deskana (talk) 22:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Damn you're fast! -- -- bulletproof 3:16 22:48, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Sometimes! --Lord Deskana (talk) 22:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
You have my talk page on your watchlist or something? -- bulletproof 3:16 22:50, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes. --Lord Deskana (talk) 22:50, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
For vandalism checks right? -- bulletproof 3:16 22:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't really remember why. I think I added your userpage to my watchlist to check it for repeated User:Taracka vandalism. It adds the talk page too automatically. --Lord Deskana (talk) 22:52, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
No problem at all! I'm glad you remove vandalism from it. By all means keep it checked. -- bulletproof 3:16 22:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
btw, how is good ol' Dragon Emperor (AKA -Taracka)? What's he been up to? -- bulletproof 3:16 23:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Nothing. He's sleeping off a nice long IP block at the minute. Seems to have shut him up. --Lord Deskana (talk) 23:07, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

...Sweet... Oh, and thanks a lot for semi-protecting my page too! Anyways, sorry to interrupt guys. I'll let you two at it. After all... this is my talk page... -- bulletproof 3:16 23:12, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

The Cell Page

...Jesus...You could've warned people not to click it in your edit summary or somthing.....I'm not trying to come off as rude here btw.....Just.......Man.....I'm never gonna get to sleep again... KojiDude 00:29, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

You're never gonna get sleep again? How in the blue hell do you think I feel!?!? And It's only the fourth time the IP has added the link! I wonder if he's into that sort of thing... eww... Now hold on a sec. You actually clicked on the link? lmao Dude... -- bulletproof 3:16 00:38, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Are you a "fan devoted to Cell" lmao. Was the screen jiggling all around? lol.-- bulletproof 3:16 00:45, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
...*In fedal position in corner with eally wide eyes*....*Slowly nods* KojiDude 00:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I bet Daishokaioshin clicked on the link as well! lmao, Imagine what she must have felt... -- bulletproof 3:16 00:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
lmao, we really shouldn't be laughing about this...lol...I didn't even know Daishokaioshin was a girl until a couple weeks ago. KojiDude 00:57, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Same here, sort of caught me off guard. -- bulletproof 3:16 01:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I just got tired of people referring to me as a guy, so I wanted to make it clear I wasn't one. Sorry if I surprised you two or anything.
Daishokaioshin 01:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry dude... --Terrington 20:45, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Vegetto SSJ

Prior to the conversation on the talk page, I had always maintained that Vegetto was most likely just SSJ, but that we can't know for sure. It was the concensus of other editors that made me start saying that Vegetto was SSJ2, because I go along with the decisions made on the talk pages. I was basing my reverts off of the fact that evidence seemed to be provided that Vegetto was SSJ2, or that the idea was acceptable enough that the article should be changed to reflect it. I still feel that Vegetto was most likely just SSJ1, so there's no problems here. I was just trying to stick to the decision made previously on the talk page with my reverts, not enforce my own perceptions of things on the article.

I doubt you thought I was doing that, but I just wanted to let you know. Thanks for your time. :)

Daishokaioshin 03:03, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I doubt you were wondering, but just in case - I'm not 70.243.223.4, I only stepped in towards the end there. Voice of Treason 03:39, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

The Apocolypse Is Comin'

I know...The Masia has saved us! KojiDude (talk) 00:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, HA-LLE-LU-JAH!!!! -- bulletproof 3:16 00:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
lmao Hey, what if he comes back with sock puppets? It sounds like somthing Wiki-star would do... KojiDude (talk) 00:53, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Not to worry my son... I know of a lord... (whom I think you are familiar with)... The lord that vanished the Dragon Emperor infestation. See his miracles. It is Lord Deskana, and yes... HE VALUES OUR OPINIONS -- bulletproof 3:16 01:12, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

With a song in my heart ~~

You can't always get what you want. But if you try sometimes, well you just might find... you get what you need. Papacha 05:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Well isn't that always true, my good friend... You know, kinda makes you wonder if he'd really clean up his act this time around... ... ... NAH... -- bulletproof 3:16 06:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I reported that imposter vandal at Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2, but after an hour not a thing's been done about it. You'd figure identity theft would be carry a 'lil more weight, but I guess everybody's doing it these days. 3bulletproof16 06:19, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Well everyone ALWAYS gets what's coming to them... (Wiki-star, Dragon Emperor, and so on...) Anyways, it's just a matter of time before the IP gets his. Nice touch with the little |3bulletproof16]] impersonation on your signature BTW, Papacha... almost as dramatic writing as Wiki-star -- bulletproof 3:16 06:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
It made me feel a little sorry for the dude, but not alot. And it was kinda corny how he used the Final Atonment title from the episode of DBZ where Vegeta kills himself...Almost takes away the coolness of the title. KojiDude (talk) 06:23, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah that kind of killed it for me too... Oh well, whatever gives him a sense a drama... Keep up the good work Wiki-star! -- bulletproof 3:16 06:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, seems I may have spoken a little too soon on the "gets what's coming to them" thing... [4] -- bulletproof 3:16 07:08, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh yeah? Well, I committed jaywalking TWO DAYS ago. You'll never take me alive, Wikipedia! Not even if you file an "RfC or something". Nyahh!!
Clemency will always get'cha. That, and the want of doing NOTHING. >_> Papacha 07:29, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I am going to complain about it as well since he's doing it again. (update: 24hr block) Voice of Treason 10:26, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Blocked? ...sweet... -- bulletproof 3:16 15:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Userpage

Hey, thanks for reverting my userpage. Though I am rather flattered that I would be considered a Jimbo Wales sockpuppet. :) --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 23:36, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem, just returning the favor.-- bulletproof 3:16 00:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

This edit made me laugh

For several different reasons, though it was meant to be a flame. Voice of Treason 12:41, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Little does he know, we're not low class humans. No, we're actually saiyans. lol -- bulletproof 3:16 15:11, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

rspw Afd

I find your timing and motives a bit suspicious. The entry is currently going through an improvement phase with an admin, if you bother to read the talk page you will see a final form for the entry is being blocked by ONE user who is trying to insert a non NPOV, which is why deathphoenix is involved as an admin. There are other usenet groups that have entries on Wikipedia. I am going to request your proposal is removed. I'm sorry. TruthCrusader 17:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

"highly suspicious"... No I am not affiliated with anyone involved in your apparent dispute, if that's what you mean by "highly suspicious". However what I am aware of is that the article lacks sufficient content to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. Not only was the information there unreliable, but no sources were even cited. The article has also been subject to numerous edit wars even after an apparent consensus was made. The continuous disputes with yourself and whatever other parties involved are for you to handle so it is irrelevant to the AFD. But just because the article is being nominated for deletion does not mean it can't be improved. Like I said in the edit summary, feel free to edit it. Oh and BTW, if you're going to Requests for comment, I would highly suggest that you read the instructions listed at the top first and Sign entries with the date only, by using five tildes: ~~~~~.. -- bulletproof 3:16 18:18, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I did not state you were affiliated with anyone. What I meant was is that you have never contributed anything to the entry, despite your so called involvement in the Wiki wrestling project, then you appear out of nowhere and slap an Afd on the entry, despite the obvious debate on the talk page between myself, an ADMIN, and the sole person who repeatedly tries to insert garbage in the article. I also suggest you review the other usenet entries on Wikipedia, many of them have even less content, you might want to slap Afd's on them too. TruthCrusader 18:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I will look into that. It seems you are emotionally attached to the article. Please try to Assume good faith and read through WP:OWN before you make any more contributions. Thank you -- bulletproof 3:16 18:36, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Please do not place a warning flag on my page when no offense was made. Thank you. TruthCrusader 18:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Please read Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Thank you. -- bulletproof 3:16 18:42, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

The Return of Wiki-Star

Well for once I'm somewhat flattered that he actually addressed me this time. [5] Though I'm not too fond of him saying that he was going to kill me, I do, however, manage to find some comedic relief in all this at the thought of him attempting to kill me. Here's my analysis: He can't write at all so my guess is another Dragon Emperor "Sockpuppet". However, the IPs responsible for the recent vandalism are AOL trolls so there is a slim possibility that Wiki-star could indeed be making himself look like an ass again... -- bulletproof 3:16 21:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

It's probably just an anon AOL vandal, don't pay him any attention. And if it's the known AOL vandal Wiki-star this does nothing for his case. Don't take the bait and make a big deal of it either way. Voice of Treason 22:24, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I think it's kinda cute, actually. Like puppy love. If your puppy was retarded... Onikage725

Power Levels

"Ooh WOW, Three different languages... Well I happen to speak five: English, Spanish, Knowyourrollian, Shutyourmouthan, and yes, Canadian... ... ..."
Are knowyourollian and shutyourmouthan even real langueges? lol KojiDude (talk) 22:59, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Short for... "Know Your Role and Shut Your Mouth" -- bulletproof 3:16 23:07, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
lmao --KojiDude (talk) 23:10, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

See ya man. Have fun in Seattle. KojiDude (talk) 02:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't Worry

Don't worry, threats is the fastest way to a perma-ban.--Orion Minor 23:54, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

WrestleMania Ratings

Rather than put the source on every page, I used http://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/supercards/usa/wwf/wwfindex.html for the PPV ratings. I tend to trust them and their accuracy. TJ Spyke 05:05, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Its cool but I just want you to know that none of the numbers on your website or any other web site are reliable as they all differ in the actual number. See...

I hope that now you understand that the buyrates listed on websites are never accurate or even half accurate. That's why the section on the template has no use unless you want to invite vandals to add their nonsense. -- bulletproof 3:16 03:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

SummerSlam logo

Please stop. The correct logo is the one I replaced on the article. The RAW and SmackDown! logos were just part of logo as seen in the Official SummerSlam 2005 promotional poster and on this site which if you hover your mouse over, its says that it is the 2005 logo. I would appriciate it if you didn't keep putting the incorrect logo back on the article. Alright, its not vandalism, but still, it's getting old reverting to the correct revision. If you could provide a source that says that your logo is more accurate, by all means provide it, because as it stands I can't find where your logo came from. 216.78.95.60 - Moe Epsilon 18:45, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Raw and SD logos are always placed on posters and DVD covers to show what brand is promoting the event. You of all people should know this. After all, its not entitled "Raw Smackdown SummerSlam 2005". This better not be another WP:OWN thing...-- bulletproof 3:16 20:13, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

You're invited :)

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Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 Trolls

I got the fiesty one blocked for 48 hours. He's a persistant lil' troll, but I put up of list of the IPs he used. We shouldn't have much of a problem with him now, so the article's ammount of vandalism is going to go way down. KojiDude (talk) 19:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I just got a new wireless mouse...Damn, this the pointer is so fast now. O_o...This is really annoying.--KojiDude (talk) 22:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

X8

I'll keep an eye on it. Looks like Truth is gone for a little while. Tromboneguy0186 21:45, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to keep an eye on it, too, so let's hope things stay fine. Chad1m 22:09, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Go read your project wrestling page I left a comment there.--TheTruth2 22:13, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I've added a note about the Rock/Hogan cheers as I do feel it was notable and an actual part of the match. However, I must agree going into such areas as the Sharpshooter spot history is taking things a little too much. I'll help you keep an eye on him as well though. --Oakster (Talk) 22:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

WMX8

Sorry I have not gotten back sooner, Ihave got in after a night out...;o) I am in accord with you, and shall have a look at the whole matter tomorrow with a clearer head.:o)(Halbared 22:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC))

Trivia

Do you intead to go and remove trivia from every other article? I see no reason to remove the trivia section from WrestleMania articles when there are trivia sections in the Super Bowl articles, World Series articles, Stanley Cup articles, etc. Do you intend to go and remove their trivia sections as well? TJ Spyke 01:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

No... Just Mania, not because I agree with McPhail ('cause I don't) but because I'm trying to keep the articles in consistency with one another. Unfortunately because of McPhail, the WrestleMania 22 article has never really been in consistency with the other ones... -- bulletproof 3:16 04:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I asked him the same question. He still hasn't responded. I don't like how he seems to think it's ok for other major sports events to have trivia sections but not WrestleMania. TJ Spyke 05:36, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: WrestleMania X8

Hey. Do you still need help with this or is everything cool now? Normy132 06:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Everything seems OK now, but just in case anything goes wrong I think it might be a good idea to keep the page on your watchlist for now. Thanks a lot Normy132 -- bulletproof 3:16 18:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I've added it to my watchlist. Not a problem helping out. Normy132 02:20, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I just wante to point out that "Seven" is a word, not a arabic numeral. So X8 was the first one to use arabic and roman numerals together. TJ Spyke 20:05, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Broly Giji Super Saiyan?

Why did you remove the parts about Giji Super Saiyan Broly?--KojiDude (talk) 19:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Most other sites including myfavoritegames.com acknowledge that Goku was the only one who achieved the transformation [6] and since there is no mention or evidence of Broly reaching the form in any notable source then it's safe to say that his transformation was just fan speculation. Remember the Bio-Oozaru thing? Hope that clears it up. -- bulletproof 3:16 21:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
It did, thanks. And you don't have to add your comments to my talk page if you don't want to, I have yours on my watchlist (why it's on there I can't remember).--KojiDude (talk) 21:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah but it's kinda my thing, you know? -- bulletproof 3:16 22:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Coordinates

How did they screw up my coordinates settings for the infobox... I put it up before that other coordinates setting on arenas page and it used to work. Now there is no audit trail for these other people who put up coordinates and mine have been completely disabled. Do you kn ow anything?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dr who1975 (talk • contribs).

Huh? I made a change to it but I reverted it back to your version... If something's wrong then it's probably from your version. -- bulletproof 3:16 02:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks... I was confused.--Dr who1975 03:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipetition

Could you please sign this? They're trying to change wikipedia in a way that destroys the "Anyone can edit" motto. It's a really stupid idea in my opinion.--KojiDude (talk) 19:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

SummerSlam Articles

Thanks for that. I just asked him on his talk page why he reverted all the the changes I made. TJ Spyke 19:57, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Glad to help. -- bulletproof 3:16 20:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

AncientGreymon

I've semi-protected it for now. Do any other pages need it? If he does that on a range of pages,maybe a range block is needed. Circeus 02:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

The user is still very active. -- bulletproof 3:16 21:54, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Trolls

No problem, I know how frustrating it is when trolls keep messing with articles for no reason and don't know how to follow guidelines. TJ Spyke 20:19, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Tell me 'bout it. I deal with them everyday... Just check my Contribs...-- bulletproof 3:16 20:21, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Looks like he got temporarily banned, maybe this will calm him down. TJ Spyke 21:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Hopefully...-- bulletproof 3:16 21:10, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Temporarily blocked. --Lord Deskana (talk) 21:11, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure thats what he meant.-- bulletproof 3:16 21:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm sure. I was just noting the difference. See Wikipedia:Blocking policy and Wikipedia:Banning policy. --Lord Deskana (talk) 21:14, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Ah... Noted.-- bulletproof 3:16 21:20, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

BTW, KojiDude recently alerted me of an apparent new policy [7] in the making: Wikipedia:Stable versions. I was wondering if you've heard anything about it. Just asking since it has something to do with vandalism, apparently. -- bulletproof 3:16 21:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for rv. vandalism--TheTruth2 23:56, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Always glad to help. -- bulletproof 3:16 23:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Guess who's back...

Yeah, it's official, Dragon Emperor has no life whatsoever.--KojiDude 16:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Another Wikibreak? So soon?--KojiDude 05:28, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Tell you what... We'll see how today goes. -- bulletproof 3:16 15:56, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Infobox Format

Why do you keep putting that when you edit the Unforgiven/Armageddon pages? The infobox template doesn't say how to lists multiple brands so I see no reason to keep changing it. TJ Spyke 21:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Its called consistency and besides "/" sticks out like a sore thumb. Use "<br>" instead for a cleaner look to the infobox. -- bulletproof 3:16 22:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

ECW One Night Stand

Were these pages actually merged or did you just create a new page and make both of them re-directs? I checked the talk pages of both and there was no mention of a possible merger, and no vote for it. TJ Spyke 06:02, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

We agreed on the Wikiproject's talk page that only the "Big Four" PPVs would stay unmerged. [8] -- bulletproof 3:16 20:17, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

WrestleMania 22

No problem. I'm more than happy to help. TJ Spyke 04:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to make any more edits, but I at least cleaned it up a little. I agree that it looked like a mess before. TJ Spyke 04:32, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't want to have to put all 22 WrestleMania's on my watchlist, but it looks like I might have to because the WrestleMania 21 article is just as bad. TJ Spyke 04:36, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey

Just a suggestion, you might want to create the account User:3buIIetproof16 (a Username that uses caiptal i's instead of lowercase l's) to keep Taracka from making it. I doubt he's that smart, though...--KojiDude 02:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

KojiDude, I'm not going to lie to you. If Taracka ever finds the testicular fortitude to go and do something as stupid as that, it would be the absolute most hilarious thing I've ever seen on Wikipedia. Of course, most of the hilariousness would be from seeing his ass get banned again instantly for the 1000th time. -- bulletproof 3:16 04:38, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Now that I think of it, it would be pretty damn hilarious to see him try that.--KojiDude 04:41, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, replying on both pages is my thing... Hehe... -- bulletproof 3:16 04:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
This thing with TJ Spyke has been going on for 14 hours now...How long am I gonna have to stay up arguing with him? I need my beauty sleep, man!--KojiDude 04:57, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

WWE Raw at Trump Plaza

Ok, this is getting to be horsecrap. I am getting sick and tired of a notable edit being unnecessarily removed on both the Trump Plaza page AND the WWE RAW page. WrestleMania IV and WrestleMania V were in 1988 and 1989 respectively. Until WWE RAW returned there, 17 years went by before any WWE television broadcast emanated from there. That is a notable fact and should be included within Wikipedia not only on the Trump Plaza page, but also the WWE RAW page as well.

Tell me something, if it wasn't so notable, then why was that fact acknowledged on WWE RAW itself on August 28? Both Jerry Lawler and Jim Ross both made remarks about WrestleMania's IV and V being held there.

These unnecessary edits are pure horsecrap! Srosenow 98 05:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Koji

Look. WP:IAR is one of the fundamental official policies of the whole project, as promulgated by Jimbo himself. Nominating it for deletion is a pretty clear violation of WP:POINT.

I accept that Koji meant well, but a block was called for.

Part of being an admin is knowing when to IAR, and when not to. DS 01:33, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Bulletproof, he's right. Breaking a rule you didn't know exsisted always calls for a block.--KojiDude 04:11, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
You asked for my opinion on this, and I thought I'd reply to this here (contrary to my normal policy on replying on my talk page). As easy as it would be for me to say "It was only three hours", I know I'd be annoyed if I felt a block was applied to me unjustly. To be honest, I'm not really sure what to say. It seemed Koji was beginning to revert war (cause Koji reverted someone that reverted Koji's action)... but perhaps the block was a bit premature, I don't know. I've got to say though, nominating IAR for deletion is a very bad idea. My advice to Koji (and you) is to forget about it. Nobody should hold any grudges. And if they do hold a grudge, then they need to learn to move on from things. --Lord Deskana (talk) 15:16, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm not saying I'm going to hold a grudge on the admin who blocked him at all. I just thought, like you said, the block was a bit premature. I think it's always a good idea to warn a user when they are doing something they're not supposed to. So if they persist, at least they know what they're doing is wrong and they can be blocked for blatant vandalism. Kojidude was not warned at all. I believe an edit war could have been avoided if Kojidude was simply warned. But that's just my opinion. Thanks anyways though. -- bulletproof 3:16 15:35, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps Koji should have been warned... but to be honest, if Koji knew doing that was a bad plan, an immidiate block was probably appropriate. It's hard to say sometimes, and this is one of those "hard to say" cases. If you need anything else, ask :-) --Lord Deskana (talk) 15:43, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: DB char template

well thank you very much. its always nice to know your work's being appreciated. but i cant take the credit for the layout of the table, i just copied the InuYasha one. do you think i included the right characters? Plough | talk to me 23:05, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

The song on Batista's page...

Several users say that Dave Batista's Theme Song for WWE is "Unleashed". Several more, including yourself, say it is "I walk alone". Which is it? (For some reason, google is not working for meh right now. So please be honest, i have no way of checking! I will believe whatever you say!)--Cookie 05:15, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Thank you very much for clearing that up. I now know which one is right hehe ^^ I sincerely apologize for reverting your edits, i screwed up, my bad. Lol! Thanks once again! --Cookie 07:05, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Vic Grimes

I left him some messages on his user talk page, but he seems to be ignoring them. I'm not sure what else to do other than try to get an admin involved. --James Duggan 03:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Recent nonsense re: the Vic Grimes dispute

This is for both 3bulletproof16 and JB196 - I have no knowledge of the dispute currently ongoing regarding the Vic Grimes dispute, however could you both come to some agreement as to what to do with this content you both keep removing/re-adding to this talk page? Forget for now who's the vandal and who's the Defender of Wikipedia Policy; is there a compromise to be had? The main reason that comments/warnings/etc. should not be removed from one's own talk page, is to make it easier for administrators, mediators and other users to follow the history of a disagreement. 3bulletproof16, if you don't want the content on the main part of this talk page, would you consent to archiving it in a special section, say, User talk:3bulletproof16/Vic_Grimes_dispute? JB196, this would satisfy the need to preserve the conversation's history. Any objections? --PeruvianLlama(spit) 05:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Our discussion is taken place on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Professional wrestling and on here. I removed the comments becuase our discussion started there. The only thing he keeps adding is the very same text that is on those other pages. It is irelevant text because it has already been stated elsewhere. -- bulletproof 3:16 05:04, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Not all of it has been stated elsewhere, so it is untrue that "the only thing he keeps adding is the very same text that is on those other pages."JB196

This is basically the issue here. The article Vic Grimes was being reverted by JB196. This was the previous version of the article before it was reverted [9]. This is the version that JB196 made afterwards [10]. Please Note the major reduction of the article's quality made by JB196's reversion. Please read JB196's comments regarding his reversion [11]. "revert then; you may not use my bio if I am not going to be credited." -- JB196 14:20, September 4, 2006. It is because of his reversions and his comments to the article that JB196 was accused of WP:OWN and also of compromising the integrity of Wikipedia by deliberately attempting reduce the quality of the article. From WP:Vandalism -- "Vandalism is any addition, deletion, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia.". How he claims these accusations are false I have no idea. There you go. Those are the facts. -- bulletproof 3:16 05:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Have a look at JB196's most recent comment, at the bottom of this section of my talk page. Does this sound reasonable to you? You can archive the whole talk page afterwards if you don't like having so much text. At least this will get the talk page revert warring out of the way, so everyone can deal with reaching a consensus on the Vic Grimes article. Feel free to leave your thoughts on my talk page, as linked above. Cheers. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 05:30, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
No it is not reasonable. He just removed my own comment from his talk page. If that is not relevant to the discussion we were having then his text is not notable here. Look I've dealt with people like him before. People who just sign up one day and just decide they know all the rules and have power over everyone. See Wiki-star, Dragon Emperor, and TheTruth2. All of these users harassed me aswell as other members becuase of upholding Wikipedia Policy. It is the same case here. I will not be harassed by another user like that. And the sad part is that most admins don't even realize the vandals are just that until someone gets blocked. Only then do they read through the situation like I posted on your talk page and take action. Wiki-star and Dragon Emperor were vandalizing for the entire summer until someone finally decided it was time to take action. Unforntuantly it was not befor other users upholding policy wer blocked by other admins who new nothing of the situation. Just look at his recent reply to your own talk page. I will not be harassed by another Wiki-star, Dragon Emperor, TheTruth2, or Taracka. -- bulletproof 3:16 05:43, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I re-added your comment to his talk page, which is where it will stay for the moment. Though JB196 may be going about it in a belligerent manner, it truly is talk page etiquette that comments of any sort be left alone, or archived - have a look at this paragraph to see what I mean. The one exception to this is simple vandalism edits, which so far JB196 has not made. At the very least, in order to resolve the Vic Grimes issue and/or to provide administrators, mediators or interested third parties with some background, it would good if the above exchanges could be kept intact at least for the next few days. It isn't required of you to do so. But it would be nice. Cheers. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 05:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I understand your frustration; I've been there before. I'm also sorry that you've been through long-term vandalism problems before on Wikipedia, however I don't think it's fair to assume JB196 is the same type of person you've met before. Everyone can get riled up on Wikipedia, and we don't always put our best face foward. I did have a read through the notes on the Administrator's Noticeboard before opening up conversation on either of your talk pages, but the content dispute looked a bit too tricky for me to resolve given that I have no knowledge of the subject involved. But I seem to be involved now anyway, so, well, here I am. If you'd like to remove JB196's comments, then as I said, you're free to do so whenever, or to preserve it for posterity. Cheers. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 05:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, though I doubt he will listen. I don't know if you've noticed but this isn't the first time he has been referred to a Wikipedia policy. How do you think this whole thing started? Thanks anyways for helping me clear this up with him. Thank you for your time. -- bulletproof 3:16 05:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I have been told by administrator Extraordinary Machine that I am well within my rights by readding constructive comments to your talk page, and I have also been told by Extraordinary Machine that your removal of constructive comments from your talk page constitute vandalism. If you have a problem with this policy, please see my talk page (its all documented there) or contact User Extraordinary Machine. I am not vandalizing your page and would never do such a thing intentionally. I am simply going by what Extraordinary Machine told me on my talk page about Wikipedia policy Just because you don't like what I am saying doesn't mean you are allowed to remove it from your talk page.JB196 03:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Sir, you need to do a good, clean, careful read-through of the WP:AGF page as you are clearly in violation of it with your comments in the Vic Grimes article. Please read the article very carefully when you have some spare time before editing this page again.JB196 03:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Furthermore, you need to do a careful read-through of Wikipedia:User page as well to find out exactly what the user page is designated for.JB196 04:48, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

About Vic Grimes

It seems you violated the 3RR on Vic Grimes. Whether or not the edits you were reverting appeared to be vandalism, they did not appear to be basic vandalism which is the type of revert the 3RR excludes. Basic vandalism is defined strictly to prevent abuse of the 3RR. I would advise you to be more careful about the types of edits you revert. I would hate to have to block you, but I would if needs be. Please contact me if you need anything else. By the way, I was asleep when you contacted me, so I'm afraid I couldn't pounce on the situation as I would normally. :-) --Lord Deskana (talk) 07:35, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

The Vic Grimes thing

Hey, sorry about not helping. My stupid AOL virus protection failed miserably and I got a trojan in my computer. I had to take it to gateway to get it fixed. It seems like the problem has already been solved, though. I also would have replied a little sooner but Wikipedia was shut down temporarily or something.--KojiDude 22:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

No prob. Thanks anyways though. He's been blocked for 24 hours. Yeah... this is getting annoying... -- bulletproof 3:16 22:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
As long as Wikipedia exsists, this kind of thing will be happening. Everything has it's pros and cons, even Wikipedia... Sometimes you just need to sit down and remember that the pros outweigh the cons...
But you have a point, man. Stuff like this is annoying as hell. Sometimes I wish I had a virtual shotgun and I could jump into the computer and then just... I'm pretty sure you know what I'm getting at.--KojiDude 23:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

WrestleMania 22

Your edits to the WrestleMania 22 article are becoming increasingly senseless. In this edit you removed sources, removed italics from the name of television programmes, changed "videos" to "vidoes", reverted to a now redundant referencing style and removed a perfectly valid external link, all without an edit summary. I do not appreciate having my edits reverted within minutes regardless of their merit, and if you continue to revert my edits, I will be forced to appeal for outside intervention. Thank you. McPhail 23:28, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

The bottom line is this McPhail. Reverting and calling it "Clean Up" is not the way to go about these things. First of all, a "Clean Up" is not just reverting the article to your own previous version. If you find a problem or an error in the article, then simply correct it and do not revert. Reversions are to be used only in the case of vandalism and that is not the case here. Please see WP:OWN -- bulletproof 3:16 23:36, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
The only reason I used a revert was that the then current version contained numerous serious errors, and reverting was a quicker means of cleaning the article up. Your tendency to revert to your own version even when glaring flaws have been brought to your attention indicates that you care more about the survival of your own version than about the final quality of the article. I believe I have reached a compromise with TJ Spyke, but I do not intend to allow you to bully me into accepting a substandard version of the article. McPhail 23:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
McPhail look at every single contribution made to the article by both you and me. The only thing you've practically ever done to the article is revert. You have clearly never assumed good faith to any editor which makes it even clearer that it is you who cares more of the survival of your own versions than about the quality of the article. I refuse to allow you to continue to harass me or other contributors this way by claiming ownership of the article. -- bulletproof 3:16 00:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

SmackDown

The Official name as of September 5th 2006 is still "Friday Night SmackDown!". See [12]. From The CW Network official site. "!" is still part of the name. Please do not add speculation as to the official name if no source has been provided to support your claim. Thank you. -- bulletproof 3:16 02:41, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

But on WWE.com the logo on the main page and on the SmackDown page no longer show the "!" and when they write the title of the show and no longer include the "!" as well. So on the CW Network's official site is has the "!" but on the official WWE site it doesn't. I would go by WWE's official site. Wouldn't you? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RAMistheMAN (talk • contribs).

I'll tell you what. The reasonable thing to do is to wait until SmackDown! airs on Friday. It's just 4 days away anyhow. WWE can sometimes send mixed messages on their website. I don't know if you saw SummerSlam but in a promo video on WrestleMania 23, a new logo was revealed for the event. However, WWE.com is still using the original logo shown here for all mentions on WrestleMania 23. Best thing to do right now is to wait until Friday. If the SmackDown! graphics at the beginning or during the show no longer use "!" then It would be safe to assume that the change is official. It's the reasonable thing to do since there are sources everywhere that contradict each other. Agreed? Just 4 days. -- bulletproof 3:16 02:52, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I agree. But I do want to mention that for months now whenever WWE writes the title of the show they only write "SmackDown" and for weeks now on the SmackDown page at WWE.com the logo (that can be seen here: http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Headers/3260430) does not have the "!" either. So this has been going on for a long time. But I'll listen to you and wait it out still. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RAMistheMAN (talk • contribs).

No prob. I understand completely. Sometimes it's best to wait for the final product to clear up any assumptions made. -- bulletproof 3:16 03:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. You too. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RAMistheMAN (talk • contribs).

They are not the same. The one I am posting has the WWE logo, the color is slighty different and it's the logo being used on WWE.com at http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/ (http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Headers/3260430).

There is a slight color difference and when you open up your picture it shows the "!". Also, why should you get your way about this and I shouldn't?

There is a color difference. The logo you are posting is much darker than the one I'm posting. The one I'm posting is being used on WWE.com. The one I'm posting should stay. It's also being used it pictures to promote Friday Night SmackDown: http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/splash/images/3296332 and http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/splash/images/3296340.

Whatever. I'm sick of fighting. At least change the name of the page to "Friday Night SmackDown" now that you see the "!" has been dropped. Also, why can I not even see the picture anymore? Did you make it so I can't see the picture anymore?

Rosemont/Chicago

It's not a big issue, but WrestleMania 2(and WrestleManias 12 and 22) took place in Rosemont, Illinois. They are are part of the Chicagoland area, but are not Chicago. Events taking place in suburbs are frequently mentioned as part of the city itself(like how the Detroit Pistons actually play in Auburn Hills, Michigan). TJ Spyke 03:55, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Deep breaths

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I responded on my talk page as well, but I just wanted to stop by and tell you its ok, everyone knows you're not running amok and JB196 is being turned down wherever he goes. Its frustrating when someone latches on to you in this manner, but if he continues, he may end up being blocked for this disruption. Take a break, have a cookie :) Shell babelfish 01:35, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey, don't worry about it, this is what we do. The admin noticeboards are there to help out with situations like these even when, like in this case, the person doing the reporting seems to be the one at fault. I've seen much worse, trust me ;) Shell babelfish 01:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

P.S. I closed the 3RR reports, though they were headed that direction anyways. Shell babelfish 01:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Today was a busy day for me, so I didn't really get to look into the 3RR reports you mentioned, but I see they've been taken care of, and I agree completely with Shell_Kinney above: deep breaths, and it will pass. It is absolutely frustrating when it happens, and it can also be frustrating at how long it takes for things to get resolved sometimes, but you seem to be through the worst of it at this point. And hopefully the cookies will help! :) Cheers. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 02:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I guess Deskana took care of it for everyone.--KojiDude (viva la BAM!) 22:02, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Buyrates

If the link you showed me was meant to tell me how unaccurate a lot of places are, that's fine. Does that mean WWE is unaccurate when they release the buys in the quarterly results? They held a conference the other day listing the buyrates for the previous four PPV's (excluding Summerslam I believe). If it's authenticity you're looking for, there's no better place than WWE. I didn't realise that was an issue as WWE have always released their PPV buys in their quarterly results.

Agumon Image

3bulletproof16, will you please stop changing the image at the top to an old image of Agumon? This image is fine with the page and we have anought images of the original Agumon!! Pokemega32 22:31, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

The reason that I am replacing the image is because of notability, that's all. Most people here recognize the current image better than the savers one. Having an image depicting a character known in the U.S. is more notable than having an image known more in JAP. After all this is the English wikipeida and I see no source in the article from bandai that states the savers Agumon design has replaced the old one. Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability. Hope you understand. -- bulletproof 3:16 22:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I am a retired troll

Do you remember me? i used to harass you by calling you bulletproof monk on the broly article? my name was dante 13,do you remember? I called you a gnome? well in any cas i am sorry:)

Yeah I remember you. Haha! All your Dante sockpuppets got blocked 4 times because of your nonsense. I hope you've changed now and have intentions of improving articles rather than adding nonsense such as you did to Venom (comics) and Broly. Not too bad on your recent edits though. Happy editing. -- bulletproof 3:16 01:53, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

He just never gives up.

Articles get sprotected so he moves to the talk pages. I'm sure he finds this amusing and thinks he's accomplishing something but it will be fun to see how this escalates. –– Lid(Talk) 03:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Very true. I find amusement in his attempts to get "his" articles deleted. Even as an IP it is futile. -- bulletproof 3:16 03:07, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
May also want to keep an eye on Extreme Warfare and Wrestling Spirit. –– Lid(Talk) 03:15, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

who are you talking about? Big foot12345689

Some old troll that is still on a crusade to destroy Wikipedia as an IP Address even after being banned. What a pity. See JB196. -- bulletproof 3:16 03:16, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

this guy looks like trouble -sigh- another sleepless night Big foot123456789

Damn right... You're welcome to help too you know... -- bulletproof 3:16 03:20, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Sure. what can i do to help? Big foot123456789

To be more precise see WP:LAME#Miscellaneous lameness and scroll down to Vic Grimes. –– Lid(Talk) 03:29, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
When I read that, the first thing that came to my mind was, "What in the bloody helllllll is wrong with that guy?"--KojiDude (viva la BAM!) 03:36, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

not to be rude but what the hell are you talking about?! Big foot123456789

I am ready to fight that troll!!! Big foot123456789


Long story short - He's basically on a crusade to delete articles that he contributed to because he is not credited as "The Author" in them. -- bulletproof 3:16 03:39, 10 September 2006 (UTC)


Whether you realize it or not, it didn't have to go down this way. I tried my damndest to prevent it but I guess that's the way it goes. Had I not been blatantly disrespected, been subject to policies entirely different than those preached by Wikipedia, and not been held to a different standard than other editors, then things would've gone differently. JB196

real mature you little troll Big foot123456789

Your efforts are futile JB196, it is a pity that holding grudges is the only priority in your life. It is even sadder that the grudges you hold are ON THE FREAKIN' INTERNET. What a troll... indeed -- bulletproof 3:16 03:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

He is coming back i just know it Big foot12345689

Never seems to learn... -- bulletproof 3:16 04:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I have a bad feeling he seems very determined,i hope puppets of his dont start popping up!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Big foot123456789 (talk • contribs).

Here's an idea: Stop talking about him. Delete everything on the admin boards/talk pages that have to do with him. Pay no attention to him and block indef on sight. By acknowledging him and talking about him you're just encouraging him. (Please forgive my horrible spelling, I'm tired)--KojiDude (viva la BAM!) 04:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

good idea but ....I AM ONE OF HIS PUPPETS —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Big foot123456789 (talk • contribs).


Good to know. -- bulletproof 3:16 04:15, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

sorry just couldnt resist —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Big foot123456789 (talk • contribs).

What if i actually was one of his puppets would it surprise you?Big foot123456789

1) No.
2) I don't think bulletproof cares.
3) You realise if an admin saw that there was a good chance of you being indef blocked, right?--KojiDude (viva la BAM!) 04:23, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. -- bulletproof 3:16 04:25, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

jeeze you people have no sense of humor i was just playing around you can get back to your "busy" lives now. wow some people are so boring —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Big foot123456789 (talk • contribs).

And you say you're 13 right? -- bulletproof 3:16 04:29, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

yes i do and please do not talk about my age it is very creepy —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Big foot123456789 (talk • contribs).

Just FYI: A 13 year old's sense of humor and a 17 year old's is usually very different.--KojiDude (viva la BAM!) 04:33, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
And would it kill you to sign your comments? -- bulletproof 3:16 04:35, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

what gang up on the kid? you guys are sick.and here just to amuse bulletBig foot123456789

You want to help or not? -- bulletproof 3:16 04:38, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
bullet it's covered by WP:LAME#Meta Lameness so adding it would be redundant. –– Lid(Talk) 04:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

yes but when people look down apon my opinions it makes me sadUser:Big foot123456789

Opinions on sense of humor should be the last thing to be concerned about. -- bulletproof 3:16 04:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

ok whatever i need to watch the first english dubbed episode of bleach on adult swim —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Big foot123456789 (talk • contribs).

You go do that, and while you're at it, why don't you go find out how Ash is doing on his quest to become Pokemon Master. -- bulletproof 3:16 04:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

And here you led us all to believe you had a sense of humor. How boring. ...yawn... -- bulletproof 3:16 04:51, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

why do you want to piss me off? What did i do to you?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Big foot123456789 (talk • contribs).

Was that what I was doing? I thought surely a 13 year old could take a mild joke like that. My bad, I guess. -- bulletproof 3:16 04:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Well overall, I think it's been a very productive day. -- bulletproof 3:16 05:10, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

do you forgive me for being a little brat yesterday?Because i am sorry dude. User:Big foot123456789

Son Goku Jr. cleanup

I see that you've placed a cleanup templete on the above mentioned article. Can you suggest to me on what needs to be done? Oh, and thanks for the welcome message. I guess you guys like to keep your welcome mat clean, don't you? :) SGFF 00:46, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

First off, I want to congratulate you on creating your first article (most notably on your first day as a Wikipedian). Nice job. However what needs to be done now is to summarize most of the article's content. Separate it into sections such as the one's found in Goku's article, and correct a few grammar errors. It's not a bad article now, but I believe a little more work can be put into it to increase its quality. Hope you can continue to help. -- bulletproof 3:16 22:27, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Question

Hi again! I have a user-related question; is it mandatory for you to create a user page? Also, I am interested in joining Wikiproject Anime and manga, but how do you join? SGFF 00:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

The WWE Programs Page

For Some reason the jpegs for the ECW show & WrestleMania have not been appearing. I fixed them but then you reverted them to their blank form. I ask you....whats up with that?

Cui

hi mate. i mean no disrespect. I have been with you editing for a long time. But i just want you to know that to me, Zarbon, Dodoria and Cui are my three most favorite characters in the universe and have been for over 10 years now. I don't want them to be damaged by persona and that's the reason why i don't want the pictures to be taken out. i don't vandalize and i don't revert without purpose. i'm sorry if i caused you any frustration. truce pal. about the pics, it's not a lot. it's only 5 now. can you please help me contain it. i implore you. no, i beg of you. it means so very much to me.- Zarbon

I will help you maintain the article to improve its quality. However, you must let go of the personal feelings you hold for these characters while editing on Wikipedia. It is not healthy to be contributing to articles that are that meaningful to you. You have to let go of your OWN issue with these articles. It's not helpful to anyone and only causes disruption like the kind found today. How do you think the whole Wiki-star thing started? I would appreciate if you could save us the trouble of going through that again. I'm glad we could reach an understanding. -- bulletproof 3:16 04:14, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
please put aside my personal feelings. the pictures for the pages are as follows to designate a purpose: one transformed photo. one video game image. one regular form photo. one scouter wearing photo from any one saga. one photo from a return in another saga. and one photo of the character in battle or using a certain technique. that is not a lot. i suggest you go through this trouble of deleting the pics from the frieza, cell, and buu pages before trying to compromise the only 6 influential photos for single characters. please understand. every photo is useful from the ones i compiled. please reply and do not change until you understand me. - Zarbon
one video game image - Not every single character need it. Only on a few articles. one regular form photo - The info box covers that. one scouter wearing photo from any one saga - Pointless, doesn't illustrate anything. The others are fine. Nemu 20:28, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


Big Foot

He's seriously talking to himself. That's creepy and enormously funny at the same time.--Suit-n-tie 03:50, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

That's that second saddest thing I've seen today. -- bulletproof 3:16 03:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
The guy can't get through one block without going insane...--Suit-n-tie 03:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Haha, "Part two tomorrow"... Don't think I'll be tuning in...-- bulletproof 3:16 03:58, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Oh, man, that's hilarious...I needed a good laugh. I might check it out...see how crazy he'll be...--Suit-n-tie 04:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Eww. He's gone off the deep end!--Suit-n-tie 04:37, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

My talk page

Thanks for reverting it (not that I couldn't have done it myself ;). That's the second time he's done that. Sasuke-kun27 01:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

No prob. Trolls get weirder and weirder every day. -- bulletproof 3:16 01:35, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Ha ha! No doubt there! You've probably seen some weird and messed up stuff here, haven't you? Sasuke-kun27 01:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Every freakin' day. -- bulletproof 3:16 02:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Bulletproof, I pitty you... If I ever become an administrator, I'll personally indef block you so you can get away from all the madness. =) --KojiDude (viva la BAM!) 02:22, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Someday XD -- bulletproof 3:16 02:26, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
(Nod)--KojiDude (viva la BAM!) 02:27, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Just not like this. -- bulletproof 3:16 02:29, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I still laugh when I read that.--KojiDude (viva la BAM!) 02:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Meltzer

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. alphaChimp(talk) 02:36, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Great perfect, you're reverting based on the grounds that Meltzer is untrustworthy, even with no evidence to the contrary. This is not a kayfabe website, which you know, and reverting based off "I don't consider MEltzer's opinion valid" isn't grounds considering in the world of wrestling journalism, a field he's had twenty years experience, he is the forefront. –– Lid(Talk) 02:36, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

if no universal source is found the status quo must be kept. Information obtained from Dave Meltzer is no better than information obtained from a blog or forum.

Wikipedia:Verifiability is one of Wikipedia's three content-guiding policies. The other two are Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Jointly, these policies determine the type and quality of material that is acceptable in the main namespace. They should not be interpreted in isolation from one another, and editors should therefore try to familiarize themselves with all three. The principles upon which these three policies are based are negotiable only at the foundation level, not at the level of the English-language Wikipedia.
Articles should rely on credible, third-party sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. For academic subjects, the sources should preferably be peer-reviewed. Sources should also be appropriate to the claims made: outlandish claims require stronger sources (such as WWE.com).
"Verifiability" in this context does not mean that editors are expected to verify whether, for example, the contents of a New York Times article are true. In fact, editors are strongly discouraged from conducting this kind of research, because original research may not be published in Wikipedia. Articles should contain only material that has been published by reliable sources, regardless of whether individual editors view that material as true or false. The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is thus verifiability, not truth. -- bulletproof 3:16 02:31, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
You could've been citing those instead, however they are primary sources and all secondary sources can not be independetly verified. The Meltzer statements fall under that of a secondary source authority. –– Lid(Talk) 02:43, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
[13] [14] [15] [16]

(Click on media and play video for news report) These sources also say 93,000. Not only that but both WWE.com and the silverdome's site [17] say 93,000. -- bulletproof 3:16 02:40, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for [18]
The Wrestlemania III venture is in the Guinness World Record Book as 93,173, but some like David Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer question this number. Meltzer has written about number stretching in his newsletter and believed the crowd to be under 80,000. –– Lid(Talk) 02:56, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Some of those sources are floored as they are, supposedly, "Largest Wrestling Crowd Attendance" when there are more than two Japanese events that eclipse 100k people. I am not debating that the number is published to be 93000, what I am debating is your wholesale removal of the dispute. This is an encyclopedia of facts, not kayfabe. –– Lid(Talk) 03:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Amusingly in your [19] source
Here's even more sources listing 93,000. [20] [21] [22] [23]. -- bulletproof 3:16 02:58, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
WrestleMania III at the Pontiac Silverdome, an event that attracted 93,173 fans, recognized as the world indoor attendance record for any sports or entertainment event. (well, see the Wikipedia entry for the scoop on that). Regardless of that. Heh. –– Lid(Talk) 03:03, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I'm just saying, I noted numerous sources here. You only noted Dave Meltzer. Regardless, the article is fine the way it stands. Oh and just so you know... "According to Wrestling Journalist Dave Meltzer, the promoter of Wrestlemania 3 (ahem... WrestleMania III), Zane Bresloff, told him that the attendance figure was closer to 78,000. [[24]] (ahem... [ ] ?). The Pontiac Silver Dome did not have the capacity to hold 93,000" (ahem... yes it does). Might want to check what it is you are actually reverting to next time. -- bulletproof 3:16 03:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
From silverdome's website
  • Capacity
  • Football, Soccer, Supercross, Monster Jams: 80,325
  • Political Rallies, Religious Crusades: 90,000
  • Concerts: 22,000 to 55,000
Not 93k for a wrestling sport event. –– Lid(Talk) 03:21, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Ahem... It said "The Pontiac Silver Dome did not have the capacity to hold 93,000" (didn't say for a wrestling event or not). 93,682 people attended mass for Pope John Paul II few days later so apparently The Pontiac Silverdome did have the capacity to hold 93,000. Thats not only introducing stylistic problems, introducing material without proper citations, but also introducing deliberate factual errors. -- bulletproof 3:16 03:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I wonder who this is.

Yeah. –– Lid(Talk) 03:48, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Possibly another sockpuppet from Big foot123456789 and/or JB196. I'm certain that it's User:Big foot123456789 though. -- bulletproof 3:16 03:54, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
I actually forgot about bigfoot entirely, this is more likely him actually. –– Lid(Talk) 03:58, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Probably Big foot. Only a 13 year-old would think up something that pointless.--KojiDude (viva la BAM!) 04:03, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
He's at it again? WOW. He never learns.--Suit-n-tie 04:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
What the hell, man? I thought he said you would go down first?--KojiDude (viva la BAM!) 04:44, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
I know man. Bigfoot didn't even mention you tonight. Ouch. He must have a crush on you or something. -- bulletproof 3:16 04:48, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
He's Big foot what can you expect? Hmm...Well, I think he'll do something eventually...Well, this is a bummer. I'm not being vandalized...I guess Big foot wasn't gonna "take me down first".--Suit-n-tie 04:52, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Just one last thing before I'm out, he doesn't like. He hates me. Check out his message. I'm done. Bye.--Suit-n-tie 17:07, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

No problem

Happy to help. All in a night's work at Wikipedia.  :) Thistheman 04:27, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome

Cheers Dina 04:30, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Son Goku split proposal

Since Son Goku's article is monstrously long, I think it would be best to seperate a few sections from his article and create a new article with those sections in it, just like the case of the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season. I just came across the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season's article a few days ago, and saw that the article had several related articles that used to be sections. So I thought that the similar idea could apply to Goku's article. A discussion can be found here. Tell me your ideas and opinion also to improve this proposal. Happy editing! :) SGFF 00:25, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Peer review for Son Goten

I have made a Peer Review request for Son Goten and I would like you to help out. I see you have recently edited Son Goten's article, so I would like you to help us in the Peer Review by submitting your opinions on what should be done to better this article. The peer review can be found here. Thanks! :) SGFF 01:44, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for removing vandalism from my talk page. I reported user to AIV. Best regards.--Húsönd 03:57, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

No prob. Glad to help. -- bulletproof 3:16 03:58, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

User pages

I've semi-protected your user and user talk pages due to heavy vandalism. I hope it stops soon. --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 23:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I appreciate the help. -- bulletproof 3:16 23:52, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
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