User talk:203.122.195.111

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Thanks for your recent contributions to Daniel Brandt. Because of problems with reliability of links to sites connected to Brandt, and issues of verifiability, most Wikipedia editors do not consider Brandt's comments on forums and blogs to be reliable sources. The trend is toward documenting anything in the article with published sources, like the New York Times, etc. Once Brandt has been called an "accountability activist" in the press, we can use that. Right now, we discuss his concerns about accountability in the Crisiticism of Wikipedia section. Please see WP:NOR for more. Please discuss your questions and concerns about this note at Talk:Daniel Brandt. Thanks! Jokestress 18:34, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Following up, Wikipedia cannot take someone's word about themselves unless it is a published autobiography or a quotation in a published source. Using self-supplied information is the essence of original research. Jokestress 18:53, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

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"Censorship"

Talk:Wikipedia Review has a discussion of why the site was deemed not notable via procedures. It's not censorship, as there are other sites that criticize Wikipedia. The major WR issue is linkspamming, caused by Brandt and others. Wikipedia has a strict policy against linkspam, and recent attempts to linkspam Wikipedia Review through redirects is a violation of that policy.

The main problem in terms of verifiability is this: Brandt can alter or erase his comments there at any time, as he has done on his own site, with his posts on Google Groups, and so on and so on. That means we must rely on sources we know will be available for others to look up. Because Mr. Brandt has been actively working to self-censor things he has said in the past, the only response to that form of censorship is to demand more reliable sources that will always been checkable, like the New York Times, Salon, etc. Brandt's sites have been deliberately censored by him from archiving sites like Google and Archive.org, so we really have no recourse but to require the most stringent documentation. He could change his mind on "accountability activist" tomorrow, so we need it in a publication. Wikipedia Review does not meet the standard set by Wikipedia policies for these reasons. Jokestress 19:44, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Please do not add commercial links (or links to your own private websites) to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links to the encyclopedia. See the welcome page to learn more. Thanks. --Rory096(block) 19:51, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

My edit on User talk:Danny

I've taken the liberty of removing a section of Danny's talk page where you and two other editors seemed to be telling Danny how he is to do his job. This seemed inappropriate to me, given Danny's responsibilities, line of command, and the fact that he's in direct communication with Jimbo and (in the case of an action that needs to be taken) the complaining party. I hope you'll realise I'm not denying your right to express disquiet at something that worries you, but in this case the tone adopted seemed to be somewhat dictatorial and overbearing, and after a long day in the office talking on the phone to attorneys and whatnot to keep Wikipedia from being sued into the ground, this is not the kind of treatment that Danny deserves. --Tony Sidaway 20:52, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Daniel Brandt

Please be aware of and adhere to Wikipedia:Three revert rule. Gamaliel 21:38, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I made exactly 3 reverts. I also made some other non-revert edits. Hence I stopped. 203.122.195.111 21:42, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just making you aware of the rule. Also, please do not remove messages from this page. If you create an account, you can do what you want with your user page. Gamaliel 22:05, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
The anon is Zordrac, who is under an arbcom ban. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:07, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:List of banned users

Stop it. ~ PseudoSudo 08:29, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

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