User talk:128.120.179.41

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[edit] ROC vs. Taiwan

Please note that as "Taiwan" and "Republic of China" are often used interchangebly in normal speech, Wikipedia articles related to the ROC in it's current incarnation should reference this. Quote: Generally following the established convention of alphabetizing countries under their common names, the Republic of China (i.e. Taiwan) should be alphabetized under "T" while the People's Republic of China should be alphabetized under "C". The former can be listed, depending on context, either as "Republic of China (Taiwan)" or "Taiwan (Republic of China)". This does not imply an endorsement of any sort on the political status of Taiwan or the ROC, but merely serves to reflect common usage. Similar situations are in use such as using South Korea to refer to the Republic of Korea. Please see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese), especally the last section, for details. -Loren 07:18, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR QUOTE in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese):

The neutrality of this section is disputed.

"Republic of China (Taiwan)" or "Taiwan (Republic of China)" is not officially approved by the Wikipedia.

The Officical name approved by Wikipedia is Republic of China Navy, Republic of China Air Force, Republic of China Army and etc.

Please obey Wikipedia's neutrality rule, Don't use offensive terms in your description.

Thanks for your understanding.

The titles of the articles in question are Republic of China Navy, Republic of China Air Force, and Republic of China Army. The use of "Taiwan" in parenthesis only comes into play in the introductory sentences of each article, in order to clarify which regime the article is referrring to. Again, this is covered under the naming coventions: Generally following the established convention of alphabetizing countries under their common names, the Republic of China (i.e. Taiwan) should be alphabetized under "T" while the People's Republic of China should be alphabetized under "C". The former can be listed, depending on context, either as "Republic of China (Taiwan)" or "Taiwan (Republic of China)".-Loren 08:13, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


Please follow the STANDARD titles APPROVED by Wikipedia. Otherwise please put "The neutrality of this section is disputed."
Please note that the section on references to the ROC and commonly used terms is located before the NPOV dispute template meaning that it is not part of the section currently in disputre. You are free to dispute this convention if you wish on the discussion page for the naming conventions. (In fact, you may find that this issue has been discussed numerious times). As you are the person accusing the current conventions of being non-neutral, it is up to you to provide the burden of proof showing that including "Taiwan" in parenthesis violates NPOV. You have yet to explain why including "Taiwan" in parenthesis is not approved or standard or conflicts with the guidelines. Until then, please do not continue to modify such references. -Loren 08:25, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


"The neutrality of this section is disputed. " sign means the total section of Political NPOV is under dispution. Please understand Wikipedia's convention and make it clear to yourself. Thanks.
The NPOV template is placed above the section in dispute,m meaning it does not include the section in question. Again you are free to discuss why that section is not NPOV on the talk page before you make any changes. The fact that something is offensive to you does not nessecarily make it POV. I consider Ku Klux Klan to be offensive. That does not give me the right to go around eliminating references to it. I suggest that you discuss this issue on the talk page for the guidelines before you continue to engage in this pointless edit war. -Loren 08:50, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


Actually you can feel everything is offensive to you. So please follow the STANDARD titles APPROVED by Wikipedia which stands for the neutrality of most people's common sense. Thanks.
You have not explained why including "(Taiwan)" is not standard or approved. Again, that section of the guidelines is not currently in dispute, and if you intend to dispute it the place to do so is on the talk page for the guidelines and not by continuously reverting. Until you prove definitively why including "(Taiwan)" is inappropriate on the talk page for the guidelines your edits will be reverted, if not by me then by someone else. Again, the articles clearly reference the fact that the state involved is the ROC. "(Taiwan)" is included in parenthesis to indicate to readers which Chinese regime the article references. The burden of proof is on you. - Loren 09:10, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


As mentioned before, the Wikipedia's official/standard titles are Republic of China Navy, Republic of China Air Force, Republic of China Army and etc. Adding anything like "Taiwan" will invalid the expression. If you can add "Taiwan", can others also add "Taiwan, Province of China"? Thanks.

Blocked for 24 hours for violating the Wikipedia rule of 3 reverts in 24 hours on several articles.--MONGO 10:22, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

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