User talk:12.180.52.194

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Attention:

This IP address, 12.180.52.194, is registered to Kintera, Inc. and may be shared by multiple users. In the case of organizations using proxy servers, this IP address may in fact represent many users at many physical computers.

For this reason a message intended for one person may be received by another. If you are editing from this address and are frustrated by irrelevant messages, you can avoid them by creating an account for yourself. (In some cases you may temporarily be unable to create an account due to efforts to fight vandalism in which case we invite you to try again at a later time or from a different computer.)

In the event of vandalism from this address, efforts will be made to contact Kintera, Inc. to report network abuse.

Caution should be used when blocking this IP or reverting its contributions without checking - if a block is needed, administrators should consider using a soft block.

[edit] Vandalism warnings

You have recently vandalized the Wikipedia article Eugene, Oregon, and you are now being asked to stop this type of behavior. You're welcome to continue editing Wikipedia, so long as these edits are constructive. Please see Wikipedia's Blocking policy and what constitutes vandalism; such actions are not tolerated on Wikipedia, and are not taken lightly.

We hope that you will become a legitimate editor and create an account. Again, you are welcome here at Wikipedia, but remember not to vandalize or you will soon be blocked from editing.

If you feel you have received this message in error, it may be because you are using a shared IP address. Nevertheless, repeated vandalism from this address may cause you to be included in any future sanctions such as temporary blocks or bans. To avoid confusion in the future, we invite you to create a user account of your own. Katr67 21:32, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply from Katr67

From my userpage:

why did you send me this ip-based message without even leaving me a way to contact you and discuss. what i would like to discuss is the fact that I didn't make *any* edits to wikipedia until now...i work for a very big company with probably 700 people in a natted environment all showing the same external ip. please at least acknowledge this possibility and alter your behavior accordingly. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.180.52.194 (talkcontribs) 17:01, September 22, 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I'm sorry if you feel you received my vandalism warning in error. I changed the above vandal warning to reflect this--please note especially the last paragraph. IP accounts on Wikipedia often are the source of vandalism, and thus non-vandal users of the same IP may receive vandalism warnings and other messages not directed at them. Many editors, me included, take vandalism on Wikipedia very seriously, and try to warn vandals about their behavior as quickly as possible. Because of this, we do not always choose the IP-specific warning, but use a generic vandalism warning. Please do not take this personally. We recommend creating an account to solve this problem. As far as "not leaving you a way to contact me", actually, all communication between users takes place on talk pages. Just as I am leaving a message on this IP's talk page, if you wish to reply to it, you can do so on my talk page. (And not on my userpage, where you placed your initial message to me.) To reach another user, for example, if you were to click on my username, below, you would see a tab on the top of my userpage labeled "discussion"--that leads you to my talk page. I hope this clears things up. If you reply, please sign your posts with 4 tildes, like this ~~~~. Thanks and happy editing! Katr67 01:30, 23 September 2006 (UTC)